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- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -6/+128This administration needs to go. Now. No more fear mongering or losing our rights in the name of "security". Read the article, call your local officials and vote this November! Remember, it isn't just the Republicans. This guy is a Democrat. Americans, we need to keep an eye out for anyone that gets in the way of true freedom, regardless of poiltical party. Let's stop the silly battles and protect our basic rights!
- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+51...the expense of which, of course, they'll be passing on to you, the consumer.
Spying on us, then making us foot the bill for it each month- genius. - Krush, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Looks like that cute girl across the street owes me the 29 bucks I paid for my binoculars.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Double plus ungood
- jmnormand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22doesn't matter who "pays" for it, the government or the isps, in the end we pay for it...
- compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Wow...This is getting out of hand. They want us to pay them to wiretap us? I'm not sure when the miscommunication occured, but I'm pretty sure most Americans would prefer not to be wiretapped and they sure as hell don't want to foot the bill for it. This ***** needs to stop.
- mrmatchgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Thats like saying because we had to arrest you have have to pay the police officer so they could go do thier job to arrest you, on top of the taxes.
- brilliantshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18In November I'm not voting either democrat OR republican. I'm voting regime change. Kick them all out.
Then again, that assumes my vote actually gets counted... - bacon_skoda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18makes no difference to the voters that voted him in.
you need to know how to use a computer to have a need for ISPs.
if one can broadcast radio ads that tells black people that democrats hate black people, and they buy it, what else can you do? - boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Don't give them ideas.
- BigDPez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Perhaps if Bush wasn't spending all of the US budget (plus money we don't have) on Iraq, he could spend some here in the US.
- aurifex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16A comparison that often makes me laugh...
Fascism takes the money it wants and shoots you.
Capitalism takes the money it wants and forces you to work the rest of your life to pay it off.
I wonder which is better, death or slavery. - brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Maybe some of this ***** will finally get Americans to stop fighting over political parties and joined in one cause.
Seriously...stupidity comes in all forms and we should really be more focused on protecting our individual rights than backing our party. "I'm a Republican and Bush is a Republican so I have to vote him back into office!" "Oh I have to elect the idiot just because he's a democrat and so am I!"
This is really ***** absurd. - o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Yes, or incarcerating you and then making you pay to rent the jail cell.
- cablemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Well if you think about it....the SPs and ISPs didn't even think twice about allowing our liberties to be violated in the first place....so this is the perfect "just desserts" for them.
NSA: "We want to spy on our citizens to make sure they're not....ummm...terrorists...that's it yeah...terrorists."
ISPs: "Okie dokie...we don't see a problem with you violating the need for a court order..."
*3 months later*
NSA: "Here's your bill for letting us exploit the citizens, thanks we didn't find anything."
ISPs: "Umm what!?!"
And yes....we get stuck with the bill either way in the end... - tallgreen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Yep! I got arrested under suspicion of public intoxication (I was acting pretty nuts). I agreed to take a urine drug test (dumb move), and then I received a bill from the lab a few weeks later.
- nukethewhales, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Meh. This system is built into every phone system except internet phones. I am against Bush's illegal wiretapping but I am not completely against wiretapping. Either the phone companies pay for this or the government pays for this. Either way we get taxed.
- tommythetomcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11i wonder if this story will be played on mainstream media?
doubtful its better to keep Americans out of the loop on stuff that will cost them money - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15That among many other things... like Bush saying he didn't know Jack Abramoff, when in reality Abramoff had visited the White House dozens of times before 9/11.
The surveilance.
The marginlization of the middle class.
The rich getting richer.
Bush and Cheney getting rich off of Iraq, Katrina, and high gas prices.
No accountability.
No fiscal discipline.
If these aren't reasons enough for anyone to see that the Bush administration has seriously worn out it's welcome and started a march for Fascism, then I question your judgement. - jasoneisen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"...Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me."
People don't respond until it affects them directly. It is a combination of apathy and ignorance. Blame the people just as much as you do the gov't. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12And for some reason we want this same government to provide everyone Wifi access and expect it not to get screwed up.
- mrxbma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9is there anything that isn't getting corrupted lately?. Time for everyone to just open up their wifi and encrypt everything we send in and out (pgp ahoy)
- argoff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I hate to say it, but I think he's right. Bush just needs to go. I supported Regan, Bush1, even Quail and Newt, and Bush2 on both recent elections, so I am certainly not a democrat. Here are my reasons,
1) The economy - everyone says it's good, but it isn't. The truth is, I don't even think it's all his fault or that he can stop it from crashing now, but I don't think he can fix it after the crash either.
2) Immigration. Mexican or not, illegal or not, many of these people are hard working family folks - I think he's agitating the issue intentionally, and I resent it.
3) Terrorism - ok, I can sympathize with actions overseas even if we can't afford them, but I can't sympathize with actions at home.
4) And IT, he clearly doesn't get it. The future is Linux and P2P, not hollywood and Microsoft. We should be easing up on copyright and patent restrictions at home, not ramming them down peoples throats overseas.
At this point I might even be willing to elect Hillary just to push things over the cliff and push the reset button on the US economy and create enough of a backlash to force out the beltway club for a long time. - stevenb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Hi..
I don't know about you.. but ... Uh.. they don't care about the terrorists anymore..
All they care about are themselves.. and they just use "terrorism" as a buzzword to get more funding / push bills that normally wouldn't pass through to go through...
Ye of so much faith in our government. - stevenb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9When the model of the Democrats and Republicans was introduced it was in no way meant to divide the nation like it has recently.
The whole "party" system is what is destroying this country from the inside... well that and greed. Too much power have our congressman received.. too long do they sit in their chair of power... We need to start enforcing mandatory time limits on seats in congress and senate... 2 years.. 3 years I dunno what.. something so they cannot get in there and ***** sit on this ***** until they have numbers... etc..etc.
And.. Mister Jefferson said it a long time ago...
"Sometimes the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants." ... I think we're inching closer and closer to that... - brilliantshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I second that. If we encrypt everything, and allow everybody to piggyback our bandwidth, they can't point fingers at anybody anymore. We are becoming a police state, we need to start pushing back. They are NOT going to catch any "evil doers" by spying on Americans. I think that's blatantly obvious.
- olego, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I just wrote to my Senators - did you?
- Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Wow, we truly now live in a police state.
- mirzmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I agree. I'm a strict opponent of partisan politics. Why should we be limited to the choices of the monolithic platform of one party or the other? Why not vote on principle? Why promote collusion and less choice amongst politicians?
- pwrstick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8No matter, I'm sure they'll just add a "recompensation fee" so the consumers pick up the tab.
Oh... wait. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It is exactly that kind of response the criminals in Washington want. Turn off the damn TV.
- o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This country has gotten so unbelievably screwed up, and it keeps getting worse.
- geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I recall Bush saying that the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 because we are a shining beacon of freedom. I guess his idea for fighting terrorism is to dim that bright shining beacon and... voila! No more jealous terrorists attacking us!
- canadianguy33, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Digg ++
- zirtbow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sadly this will probably get put in place and never go away. Its not like the next politician will ever give up this up in the name of freedom. Really what politician would give up any form of power once they have it.
- danjal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4all those crazy american laws.. makes me glad i'm in the EU, and in Ireland =)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yup, our internet cost is going up along with every retarded tax they tac on.
~mario - 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Every time I think that my opinion of, and my trust in, our federal government (especially the administration and congress) has hit what I think is the lowest point possible, they surprise me in some way that forces me to dig yet a deeper basement into my measurement system.
- sgbooth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Unfortunately, voting independent won't help. It sucks the democrats are spineless right now. But voting democratic will at least shift the power so that the republicans don't control all three branches of government. Give them power to subpoena and things *might* begin to happen.
- thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4FOR THE MOTHERLAND... er... HOMELAND! And of course, the media won't touch this with a 10ft pole, they will just keep blabbering about the rape case or other useless news, just like with the EFF case.. No need to stir up the sheep!
- tylerni7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This is simply disgraceful. I shudder to think what life is going to be like in America by the time I'm old enough to vote. I bet by then (2009, so the 2012 election) George Bush will still manage to be in office, saying that him leaving would pose a threat to national security, and anyone who mentions his name will get executed on the spot.
The sad thing is that it doesn't seem that hard to believe... - nnonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hey crazies!!! Since you all want to blame the President ...
Quote from the article: "The original 1994 law, called the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act ...."
I'm trying to remember WHO was running ***** in 1994 .... anyone?? anyone??
Answer: CLINTON - '93-'01 - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.bushwatch.net/bushlies.htm
- Jawshy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Death-you don't get screwed over so much.
- BinaryCleric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This is really getting insane, I agree this administration has to go, have they read the foundations that the country was built on. Freedom is number one and they government should not be able to take that away.
Don't they realize that this is exactly what the terrorists want? - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm voting independant also. The GOP is in power right now and are largely to blame for screwing things up. However, the Dems have been deathly silent about all the abuse and can't get their act together and stand up to the administration. They all need to go.
- xptical, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The answer is suprisingly simple: discontinue your service. Just about every library today has an open WAP so that you can get your Diggs on every afternoon. Or, go to a Starbucks and grab a Cafe Machiato. Whatever you do, do not pay another month of internet service till your ISP agrees to go back to the original price.
The government can ask the ISPs to pay for monitoring, but the ISPs can't force you to have the service.
Oh, and all you anti-Bush people: This tax will not be repealed when/if the Dems take office. It isn't the administration; it's the government in its entirety. Voting for a Dem or Repub won't help.
Before you say "move to Europe", just remember, their tax situation is a lot worse. I lived in Italy for 6 years. I got tired of paying 60% income tax just so that poor people could have houses and dentists and doctors. If you don't work, then you should die; social Darwinism baby! On top of the 60% income tax, you have a 20% VAT on every item you buy. - CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I just find it ironic that the companies have to pay for the wiretapping of their own systems. How the hell is this legal? The Supreme Court needs to be doing its job.
- brachiator, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11It was the surveillance tax that got you to the point of "this administration has to go"? I guess that was the final straw, but I didn't even know the camel's back was under there any more, so difficult to see through the pile-up of Iraq, Osama bin Hidin', Iran build-up, 2 stolen elections, the gutting of the gov't science agencies and all the tax subsidies for the rich. ;-)
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Rickler: "Ireland? /me walks into Protestant neighborhood with Catholic T-Shirt. *me is shot dead*"
Well if you walked into Camden, NJ with any t-shirt... You'd be shot dead. -
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