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- NuPagady, on 06/04/2009, -2/+59Hot girls, wine for breakfast, wine for launch, wine for dinner, universal health care, people with funny accents, Amsterdam in the neighborhood, pro file-sharing parliament. You gotta love living in Europe.
- dalittle, on 06/04/2009, -7/+40File-Sharing is already legal. This is really about forcing corrupt judges and paid off politicians to play by the rules.
- ArthurSucks, on 06/04/2009, -3/+26"You wouldn't shoot a police officer and steal his helmet... Then go to the bathroom in his helmet... Then give it to his grieving wife."
- MattBD, on 06/04/2009, -1/+22I voted Green today - I don't agree with all of the candidate's policies (they're very anti-vivisection, I think it's justifiable for medical purposes, but not for things like cosmetics), but I agree with them on a lot more things than any other party.
There's a lot of parties standing at this European election actually - we had the usual Labour, Tory and Lib Dems, but also the odious BNP, UKIP, two animal rights parties, the English Democrats, another anti-Europe one. My ballot paper was about three feet long! - KAMiKAZOW, on 06/04/2009, -1/+22Parliaments in Europe are *not* pro file sharing. There are a few politicians here and there, but overall Europe is as much in the hands of lobbyists as everywhere else. If European countries had pro file sharing laws, the Pirate Bay guys hadn't been convicted.
- darkism, on 06/04/2009, -0/+18Rösta pirat!
- Travelsonic, on 06/04/2009, -1/+13Then steal it again!
- kidwithsword, on 06/04/2009, -2/+13File sharing is legal. Wtf?
- StuartGibson, on 06/14/2009, -0/+11I'm pretty sure there are many, many private healthcare options available for sale, at least in the UK, should you want to pay for quicker, cushier service.
Look, here's a whole site dedicated to them: http://www.privatehealth.co.uk/
The great thing is, if you can't afford the BMW of health care, the Ford version is free. - trendygamer, on 06/04/2009, -3/+12Hold on. "File-sharing" is quite legal already. It's the exchange of copyrighted material that is not. So are the Greens saying they wish to turn decades of copyright law upon its head and permit individuals to transfer copyrighted material in a manner that, barring today's technological advancements permitting file-sharing, would have been a plain old boring copyright violation? If so...that's their prerogative, but let's call a spade a spade, shall we?
- TheMachine1, on 06/04/2009, -4/+12I'm against stealing files. If I download a file its merely to borrow it and I always upload it again when I finish viewing it.
- MatzahMan, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8GREEN PARTY FTW
- KAMiKAZOW, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7At least in Germany the Green party isn't that cool. They are pro ecology, but aside from that, they are as corrupt as any other major party.
I vote the Pirate Party on Sunday. - Stormwern, on 06/04/2009, -4/+10It may not be immoral, and it can be dificult to prove someone's guilt, but in most countries it is definitely illegal to share copyrighted material.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6Do you rewind it?
- kimbja98, on 06/04/2009, -0/+5This was made popular 52 minutes ago...about an hour after the polling stations closed in the UK!...(but was submitted 10 hours ago).
- Swivelstick, on 06/05/2009, -1/+6And yet your one and only sentence makes you sound like a loser, a douche and nutjob all at the same time
- KlogereEndGrim, on 06/05/2009, -1/+5how they managed to fit a bathroom one is able to enter in the helmet is beyond me!
- Swivelstick, on 06/05/2009, -2/+6oh please
- katieface, on 06/04/2009, -2/+6+Hot guys.
*****, I wanna move to Europe. - Twinnie, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4The NHS sponsors a broad range of treatments, they don't just have one-size-fits-all treatments for every problem. In what kind of world would a patient be better at choosing their own treatment than their doctor? If the patient really needs a Chevy then the doctor will give them a Chevy.
I have no problem helping to pay for other people's health care and when I hurt myself it's nice to be able to go for a little check-up to make sure it's all okay without having to worry about footing a bill. Health care is part of the basic right to life, you pay taxes to support benefits for the unemployed, you pay taxes for the police to help protect you from getting hurt, but when you actually do get hurt you get people who just suffer because they can't afford to pay to get themselves healed properly.
There were a few documentaries on recently celebrating 50 years since the creation of the NHS and they were interviewing people who remember times before universal health care, they didn't have a single bad word to say about it. I'll tell you what, why not try coming here to England and try to find someone who would rather go back to privatised health care? Liberals and conservatives, you won't find a single one. And don't cite the Daily Mail (Daily Fail), scootch around here on Digg and see what kind of a reputation that *****-stain of a newspaper enjoys. I haven't read that article but if you look for details about the case from a less biased source you'll probably find that's it's a really expensive drug with a very very slim chance of working, that's usually the case when the NHS won't pay for some drug.
Even if you live in America then surely you're insured for your health and probably locked into certain health provider(s) anyway so where is the choice there? It just comes down to paying for it if you want anything else, which is exactly the same choice as we have in this country. In fact though, what is the point in choosing? When I go to see a doctor I don't debate what treatment I need, I just tell them what's wrong with me and they fix it, I'm not a ***** doctor and I'll let a professional decide what should be done.
The very idea of getting in a car crash, my fault or not, then waking up and being given a massive bill to pay for someone to save my life. It feels like being back at school taking a history class on the dark ages. - iiiears, on 06/05/2009, -1/+5 Downloading a more portable digital version in the format i want, that publishers won't support because it isn't profitable to them makes me a criminal?
Sell me quality and convenience or i will be as far as publishers are concerned a thief.
- mescon, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4Redan gjort...
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/05/2009, -1/+5Oh come on, you didn't even try.
- Vinvin, on 06/04/2009, -0/+4I voted GroenLinks (part of the European Greens), and did quite a lot of campaigning for them, too. Good to see they're also being progressive at this point (though perhaps a bit *too* much for my taste).
- slime73, on 06/04/2009, -2/+6Sharing is caring!
- KlogereEndGrim, on 06/05/2009, -1/+4Calling the judges corrupt is something I see again and again, and this is complete and utter *****.
The judges make their decisions based on the laws the politicians make. Virtually everywhere, file sharing of copyright protected works have been made illegal, and all the judges do is uphold that law.
If the judges where to let file-sharers go, THEN THEY WOULD BE CORRUPT, since they would then rule against the laws they where put there to uphold.
If you don't understand this, then you have a long way to go in understanding how we can change this system, as it needs to happen either through politicians, or by staying ahead technologically, from those who want to hinder private file sharing.
Blaming the judges is simply not the way to go, since their hands are (and should be) tied by the laws. - iiiears, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3 When publishers aren't imaginative enough to find a way to to provide their product and for me to pay them. I become a criminal for their lassitude or indifference?
Copyrights and Patents abridge free speech to provide incentives (read profit) for content creators.
when they fail to provide their product in useful format AND a way to to be remunerated for it's delivery they have failed their obligation to society.
Reproducing a digital copy costs almost nothing.
Books, music, games, and movies are all created and edited digitally so why is this so difficult for them to reformat it and profit? - Twinnie, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3I can't understand how legal file-sharing would ever work. It's one thing passing a videogame around friends but suggesting that one person can buy a song and then share it with the entire continent seems unsustainable.
- jakem1, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3Yeah, I just voted for them tonight. This is another reason to be satisfied with my decision.
- powatom, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3You're right that the NHS is 'unfair' with regards to how it decides which treatments to offer after it's taken the money anyway, but the simple fact remains that if you are ill, more often than not, the NHS will do it's best to fix you up and you won't have to break the bank to get back to normal. Given the choice, I'd rather pay what is effectively a pittance in taxes to fund the NHS than have no NHS at all.
- kopiwrite, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2...it's just sharing files...
Sharing copyrighted files without permission is illegal though. - hiPpymIck, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2heres the BBC guide to all the parties and their policies
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm - Stormwern, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2There may be corrupt judges in some of the cases, the tpb trial smelled fishy, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have been convicted by any other judge just the same.
Just because they're really after you doesn't mean you're not paranoid. - HanSolo69, on 06/04/2009, -3/+5The government is already in control of health care. Universal health care gives people more choice.
- Suricou, on 06/05/2009, -1/+3European elections were yesterday, here.
I went Green. - Rapax, on 06/05/2009, -1/+3I wouldn't steal a handbag...
I wouldn't steal a car...
I wouldn't steal a TV....
...but I sure as hell would make copies of them, if it were possible (well, maybe not of the handbag).
Stealing = removing the original object - Colinho22, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2I agree in principle, but saying that if it is too hard to police it we should just allow it is a very ***** argument, easily rebutted.
- Suricou, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2I think the idea is to change the major revenue source from just sales to also include more advertising, merchandising, concerts, and so on. It'd mean substantially less revenue, which also means lower production costs - but production would continue.
It's an undesireable outcome, but not so undesireable as the alternative: Jailing tens of thousands for trivial crimes, strictly regulating the internet, limiting consumer connection capacity and surpressing new technologies in order to maintain the conditions in which profits are maximised. - jtinz, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2Pretty much everything released after Steamboat Willie (1928) is still under copyright. Including this post. But it is legal to share even copyrighted material with the permission of the copyright holder (which may not be the author).
- JQP123, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2"... suggesting that one person can buy a song and then share it with the entire continent seems unsustainable."
So what's the solution? Simple --- don't "sell" the song.
The folks promoting legal "file sharing" are fooling themselves because they expect the major content producers to continue playing the game as before. They won't. Admittedly, it may take them a while, they're not all that bright, but eventually they (or those who supercede them) will be forced to grab a clue.
If legalized file sharing happens, I predict that eventually, the *only* access to quality content will be by way of subscription --- transmitted from the publisher to an approved receiving device. Much like cable TV and satellite radio is done now.
CD and DVD sales are what promote file sharing. Eliminate these "sales" and it becomes much more difficult and much less common. - Tarotsan, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1Judges are also there to keep an eye on what parliament does. If judges merely did as politicians told them then there would be no separation of their powers.
If the judges of Nazi Germany had let those who opposed Hitler's totalitarian regime go then would you be complaining about their corruption?
It is true that without exceptional circumstances judges must try to uphold the laws that are put before them but where there is doubt as to how the law should be interpreted then it is important whether a judge makes his decision based upon wishing to promote the capitalist stance of media publishing corporations or whether he instead favours development of the law so that live performances are promoted over recordings for which performers are paid a trifling royalty and poor people who cannot afford to buy lots of albums are penalised for the crime of enjoying an artists work too much to simply not listen to it. - killerpopiller, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1that is not true, to what incident you are referring?
they are a political party, and have to seek concensus.
and there are many green politicians here in Deutschland, who are good pppl, like Jürgen Trittin, Bärbel Höhn and others.
the pirate party and the green party are very close on their positions, thats why I am still undecided - ÖdP sounded also right - just google wahlomat and you get your parties suggested - Friskus, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1Freedom can be attributed to both uhc (positive freedom) and the absence of uhc (negative freedom). It's not a concept exclusive to either.
- vectoor, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Får inte, men jag gör det helt klart nästa år!
Igår var jag ute på stan och delade ut flygblad. Den lila piratbussen är grymt skön! - darkism, on 06/05/2009, -2/+3Let's all digg him up and push this idiocy to the top of the heap. Public humiliation!
- dolgoth, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Wahoo go the greens!!!!!! We moving in to a technology filled world, use it to educate and make life better!!!!
- StuartGibson, on 06/14/2009, -0/+1Me too. Don't think they stand a chance in hell of winning any seats from Northern Ireland, but at least they are interested in real policies instead of finger pointing at the past.
And I'm a petrol head. - jtinz, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1I think the Greens are doing good work in the European parliament. But the head of the national party is quite disconnected from the base. The Green party formed out of the peace movement. But as soon as they became part of the German government, they sent the troops to their first fighting mission.
- MattBD, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1The BNP are pretty odious by most people's standards, and I'm only saying what I saw on the ballot paper..
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