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- jasperwillem, on 01/29/2008, -2/+79Great to have this support from the EU.
- BuzzLightyear, on 01/29/2008, -3/+73Hey MAFIAA, do you know who I am?
No, didn't think so. - Senn, on 01/29/2008, -3/+65EU, you have my respect again.
- blackmage439, on 01/29/2008, -3/+64Meanwhile, in the Land of the Free[less]...
- gordonj, on 01/29/2008, -0/+49Good to know that the erosion of privacy and individual rights that is happening in america isn't setting the example for europe.
- T3hJ3hu, on 01/29/2008, -2/+48I love Europe.
Sometimes I wonder why I even live in the US. Time to move to Amsterdam. - nexmachina, on 01/29/2008, -5/+30"...Internet Service Providers to be forced to reveal the personal details of people accused of file sharing." Key-Word "Forced". That doesn't mean they can't or won't accept money for the information. And money can bend anything.
- jakem1, on 01/29/2008, -0/+25375 million people just breathed a great sigh of relief.
- Dubbsacc, on 01/29/2008, -2/+26Time to move!
- mrremy, on 01/29/2008, -1/+21well that's creepy
- Ryanx0r, on 01/29/2008, -0/+19There's no doubt about it. Living in Europe is 'heaven'. At least we have a judicial system that actually fights for the right of the citizens and doesn't let money do the talking
- varun1s, on 01/29/2008, -1/+17The point raised by the ISP was that file sharing is a civil (not criminal) issue and it shouldnt have to reveal customers' ip addresses for civil issues.
- benny215, on 01/29/2008, -1/+14america, land of the free, is actually less free than europe. i'm about to move.
- blast_flame, on 01/29/2008, -0/+13The above links(s) are spam. Do not click. They are to a site where he gets "points" for every click he gets.
- rpelayo, on 01/29/2008, -0/+13Eu countries and the EU have always been very serious about EU citizens data rights. For them to give/sell a users data to any form of company/organisation for this purpose would be an incredible violation of those laws. The penalties for this would be in most cases excessive, just to prove the point. Further, any evidence would be tainted and therefore utterly inadmissible in court.
- canman888, on 01/29/2008, -0/+12Only in Europe!
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -6/+17***** the RIAA!
- petikeke, on 01/29/2008, -0/+11ISP's wont do things they don't have to. They would gain no benefit from revealing such information, however they wouold loose a LARGE number of their customers once news gets out they are releasing P2P users detais (which to be fair, is a large number of people these days). Yea, bet ISP's cant WAIT to shoot themselves in the foot with a nuke!
- StephenTC, on 01/29/2008, -0/+10It's not just about stealing movies and music, it's about general privacy. This kind of step forward in internet privacy in the EU demonstrates a maturity in thinking that can probably be spread across many aspects of life. So in short, this symbolizes the awesomeness of privacy that the US is quick to demolish. (Though big brother in the UK is unsettling) :)
- digjam, on 01/29/2008, -2/+11Time to move! .... my proxy ;-)
- spikes, on 01/29/2008, -1/+10Maybe Codemasters will shut the ***** up with their threats now. Yeah right....
- linkwray, on 01/29/2008, -0/+9We can learn a lot from our friends across the pond.
- bumcheekcity, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8***** yeah, go EU! :D
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -1/+9This will never happen in the US thats for sure.
- BlueBarad, on 01/29/2008, -1/+8Meanwhile we are giving immunity to telecoms.
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -1/+8Tim Allen?
- Rakuseki, on 01/29/2008, -1/+7Borrowing assumes a short time period and that you gave it back, or otherwise only have it for a short period of time. This is why, for example, nobody cried foul over the whole Zune sharing thing or why Sony had the same principle for their Mp3 players before that. Borrowing also maintains that the owner of it is the person you're borrowing it from. When you download something, you've already assumed ownership because there's no readily available function on the internet to 'return it' since you just downloaded a copy. So, as far as your argument's concerned - downloading files != borrowing files.
On the flip side, more often than not it's not the downloading of music/movies that get people caught up. It's the time they decide they'd like to become distributors themselves. - borez, on 01/29/2008, -1/+7Good
- SimonGray, on 01/29/2008, -0/+6500*
- shinythingy, on 01/29/2008, -0/+6Data Protection Act
- ivosilva, on 01/29/2008, -1/+7If you're already charged with something, they don't need your details, now do they? They'll sell their customers? and lose all those power users? don't you think they'd lose customers if they were selling them out?
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -0/+5Leeching scum.
- BassMastr, on 01/29/2008, -0/+4Then you don't deserve it. it's not for you to decide how much someone else's time is worth. If you don't think it's worth it then don't buy it. I don't want to pay full price for a car, but don't make it okay to go steal it.
- jakem1, on 01/29/2008, -2/+6I don't know about the rest of Europe but here in the UK that sort of data is protected by the Data Protection Act. making it illegal to sell to a third party.
- SleepingOrange, on 01/29/2008, -1/+5we are anon...
.. what do you mean that's the other anonymous? - iFrikkenR, on 01/30/2008, -0/+3If you're moving to Amsterdam for the drugs also, you do realise the rest of The Netherlands has the same law as just that city, yeah?
- Yoshi39, on 01/29/2008, -0/+3As in less likely they will go down yes as in less likely that you will be caught no
- 661p, on 01/29/2008, -0/+3After that story with POS Tomas Delgado, something good comes from spain
- BassMastr, on 01/29/2008, -2/+5O and I forgot...yes I have taken CD's from friends and burned the CD's and yes I knew it was stealing. I didn't try and justify it by calling it something else. Stealing is stealing no matter what semantics you try and hide it behind.
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -2/+5What if I already purchased the music/movie and I want to make copies for my own use? With downloads, I save myself the trouble of having to transfer the music/movie data from the shiny plastic disc to the shiny metal disc in my pc.
That is how downloading files isn't stealing, I'm happy to have educated you, now go tell others. - StephenTC, on 01/29/2008, -1/+4You sir, are a terr'ist!
- jgzman, on 01/29/2008, -0/+2If they accepted money, or otherwise released information without permission, it would (probrably) be a violation of privacy rights.
- BassMastr, on 01/29/2008, -1/+3They set the price....You don'tike it don't buy it. Just b/c you don'tike the system doesn't justify you stealing it.
- cliffski, on 01/30/2008, -0/+2well said
- KataLieb, on 01/30/2008, -0/+2Daymmm...Here I was thinking our EU overlords are just as bad as yer US overlords...
Guess its nice to be wrong once in a while :) - cliffski, on 01/30/2008, -0/+2what percentage of the movies you enjoy were funded on that model? Id be amazed if its over 0.0000001%
grow up. - n0c0ntr0l, on 01/29/2008, -1/+3I love the EU. They don't sell out to corporations, VAT is a small price to pay for freedom.
- zeabu, on 01/30/2008, -0/+2It's not about stealing to start with. It's copying! Piracy if you want. See it as try-ware. We Europeans still not have that mental illness to obey the God of Money, we place liberty above profits. You Americans, the ones of "the land of the free" (LMAO), should do the same, you'll see, if you do so less Prozac to take ;)
- zeabu, on 01/30/2008, -0/+2And you are living in the most "American State" of Europe. Compare UK laws to the ones on the mainland, you in the UK have already "dropped your soap in the shower", condemned-for-life-prison-style.
- BassMastr, on 01/29/2008, -4/+6You'd move just so you could steal music and mvoies without getting caught? you might want to re think your priorities.
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