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- halbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39Anyone who visits netscape.com doesn't know how to change their startup page.
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I love engadget, and I dislike Netscape even more, woo.
(... though I can remember a time when I loved their browser) - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16yes. the same people also buy new computers when their email breaks
- kylesellers, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19The only reason they did is because of their iPhone coverage. I doubt engadget will stay above Netscape for long...
- johnnyshuteye2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Uh, hey, aren't Netscape and Engadget owned by AOL? Why, yes, yes they are.
http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/10/06/weblogs-inc-sale-to-aol-confirmed-heres-the-inside-word/
http://news.com.com/AOL+buys+Netscape+for+4.2+billion/2100-1023_3-218360.html
AOL wins either way! - TriZz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13That's what Netscape gets for trying to be a digg-wannabe.
- greekgoat91, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13good job Ryan, Peter, Paul, Darron and all you guys at Engadget. keep up the good work
- pipdip, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Since when has Netscape been a traffic benchmark?
Well, anyway, good news. I love Engadget. - pinkfifties, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9How many people really have the alexa toolbar installed? I have trouble any of their statistics very seriously.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Netscape? Next week are we going to see Engadget beating Webcrawler too?
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6NS.com was better in their old format. Whoever decided on a digg clone ***** it up.
- damonlab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Alexa = spyware.
- SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I lost respect for Netscape when they went after Digg.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@afx1:
"NS.com was better in their old format. Whoever decided on a digg clone ***** it up"
That would be Jason Calcanis, cofounder of Weblogs, inc - Engadget's parent company. - converge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5exactly, buried as inaccurate.
- palmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Who the hell goes to Netscape, and why?
Next up: Engadget surpasses pets.com. - NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I really don't know why this is news. Many many websites have recently overtaken Netscape in traffic.
- ryanblock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thanks! Shoutout to Evan, he's the man!
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"NS.com was better in their old format. Whoever decided on a digg clone ***** it up"
"That would be Jason Calcanis, cofounder of Weblogs, inc - Engadget's parent company."
felchdonkey, once again you've shown us the light. - SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think this signals the fall of Netscape more than the rise of Engadget.
But like kylesellers said, this is most likely due to the iPhone coverage. - spiderland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ahhh engadget. The source of articles that mostly paraphrase someone else's material. At least source links are given, I suppose. Keep up the good work.
- maehem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I haven't used Netscape's web site since the 90s. Do people still use it?
- jdawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This just shows how wrong Alexia really is. Engadget gets 1m pages a day, Netscape gets 4m pages a day.... I managed both of them and they are both are great sites, but if you look at the other measurement companies it shows clearly that Netscape has more pages than engadget and even digg! Netscape is 3/4x bigger than Engadget right now.
Netscape doesn't support the Alexa toolbar and the majority of netscape users are still coming from the netscape browser--that explains why netscape undercounts. - joaob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Alexa is great and pretty acurate at measuring trends. I don't think any serious person or company relies on it for it's traffic measuring capability.
Trends is where Alexa shines.
So I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. - naiku, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Netscape's Vision
1. Find popular news site
2. Copy their layout/design
3. ????
4. Profit
Too bad that didn't work so well. Engadget > Gizmodo. they don't have lame ass editors who claim they know about the iPhone. - Joe091, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Who the hell goes to netscape.com? I haven't been there since... like last century probably.
- shark615, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Alexa is NOT accurate, buried
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"yes. the same people also buy new computers when their email breaks"
***** i forgot to call my grandma today... - RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Digg is probably what helped Engadget reach this milestone, considering the number of articles I've seen appear on the FP here. Gratitude is a good thing in life ... appreciation is in order ... ahem.
- MeatBiProduct, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you rank your site traffic by alexa you are either a tool or a noob. in this case tool gets more traffic so your a noob for using alexa tardbar and giving their stats any type of support.
- compu486, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In that it’s still not accurate and moderately superficial as it doesn’t accurately depict the actual user base. But it is the only free, third party application that doesn’t require logs to get information. It just spies on you from your computer. I don’t have anything against alexa. It’s the only tool out there that anyone can come along and use that’s non technical. But it’s not remotely accurate, trends and all.
- compu486, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Just my 2 cents. Alexa is not accurate in any true form. It requires a toolbar or a plugin in IE 6 that is removed by every known spyware remover to gather its stats. It doesn’t represent accurately firefox users accurately at all. On my site ( inventgeek.com) I have only about 20% of my users on an IE6 platform. Not even a close representation. Use real analytic tools like quanticast or log analysis tools go get a real and far more accurate estimation.
The only thing alexa is reliably good for is attracting sponsors and alexadex.com. Unfortunately many 3rd party sites out there that assess a sites value use these skewed values.
Long & Short = So if you have a broad nontechnical user base that uses the pre-Vista built in browser you will have a semi-accurate set of numbers to roll with. If you have a technical group of users…. Throw alexa out the window and use a third party traffic validation system.
For more info look into:
quantcast.com
netcraft.com
sitemeter.com
loganalyzer.net
Clicktracks.com - palmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, but once you download it, why the hell would you keep going back to the site?
- shodson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm not trying to defend Netscape here, but who cares about Alexa rankings? They are not an accurate indicator of anything and I don't know anybody that runs the Alexa plugin so I don't know who these Alexa users are that Alexa is depending on for their rankings but I'd bet they're not a very good/accurate sample of the average internet user.
- pineapples10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Gizmodo is better
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1netscape??? i didnt even know people went to that site anymore?
- bdubya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Everyone agrees Alexa sucks, and is horribly inaccurate (installed userbase too small). So why do all these Alexa rank this, Alexa rank that stories keep hitting the frontpage?
- compu486, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Alexa is not accurate to our tech comunity.
- brianbennett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1...probably the same reason Neilson ratings "matter," there isn't anything better.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Alexa=Internet Explorer
Netscape!=Internet Explorer
Let's look at Netcraft ratings...
Digg: 656th
Netscape: 337th
Netscape actually beats Digg then. - cyberghost232, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like people need to ask a friend of family member how to change a home page. Netscape swallows.
- baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2the tilting of the earths axis!?
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have trouble your comment very much.
- Niz1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hmm thats wierd i would have thought engadget rating would have gone down i always used to be on there but ever since i found digg i think i started watching from episode 20 or so, i started coming here, it was kinda difficult not having a picture but i got used to the format :) (i found digg through the video podcast)
- warder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Has anyone noticed that most large sites traffic on the Internet appears to have been trailing off recently? E.g.
http://www.alexaholic.com/amazon.com+bbc.co.uk+cnn.com+abc.com
Surely with the internet population growing, mainstream sites would continue to receive even more users? I can't believe these sites receive now less traffic... is there a general artificial slant on the numbers on Alexa over the past year? - EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Congratulations Engadget for having more spyware infested visitors than Netscape. Truly a stat to be proud of.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i had to see if it even existed because of this post. wtf is the point of netscape's existence at this point?
- EtherealPurple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For some perspective, Engadget is gaining on Ask.com, a pretty popular site, if I remember correctly, and has already passed Mozilla.com.
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow this brings back so many memories. The default gray background... that ship wheel thingy... javascript errors... ahhh
- phlogiston99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Watch out Engadget, AOL is out to kill you, just like they killed Netscape (the browser) already. Viva la Firefox though.
I used to think Engadget was cool. -
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