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- toxicredm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+56Two words: CURRENTLY free.
Yeah, just like crack. You get some for free at first, then they want you to pay. - GoNoles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Gotta love this FAQ entry:
"Can I delete my file(s)?
To be posted. Please check back soon. Thank you!"
http://www.elephantdrive.com/help/faq.aspx?strFAQ=qDelete
Wouldn't the answer be simple? Usually it is "Yes" or "No". Kind of fishy if you ask me. - hinten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The good news: it is free!
The bad news: based on their calculator it will take me 876 hours and 12 seconds to upload my music collection.
Sending them my hard drive might be a better solution. - lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Digg effect. :( I was hoping to see it for myself... How in the ***** are they going to offer unlimited bandwidth and storage to me when their site goes down after 350 diggs?
- wonginator1221, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11just like our good friend SKYPE
- cskirby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I agree with all of the comments made about being skeptical about the service. On a lark, I signed up for it and attempted to upload all of my image files. It was a horrid experience, to say the least. The software is clunky and almost too simplistic (if there can be such a thing) and the service never could fully upload my files; I got an error message every time I tried. I think a good external HD trumps this kind of service every time.
- gadgetuk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10[homer] Oh, so that's your little plan. Get us addicted, then jack up the price! ...... Well, you win. [/homer]
The site does go on about how secure the service is... but that's external security. Anyone able to find whether or not they share Google's GDrive policy on access to your data for themselves? - cskirby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8While I know there are many other options out there like this, you certainly can't argue with free. The site explains its service quickly and easily, so maybe this is worth at least trying out. What is Amazon's connection?
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Amazon's connection is that the system is using Amazon's new S3 Service to provide the storage. I got an email about this from Amazon yesterday, as part of their Web Services Newsletter.
r00tus3r: No, it's Windows only right now, using custom software. - atomicwedgie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"I think a good external HD trumps this kind of service every time."
As long as you carry it off site everyday right? That or you buy a fire proof, theft proof model. :) - vranghel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7has anyone seen the the "start your free trial" tab?
- r00tus3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'm trying to figure out if this supports ftp access. There's a section about remote access there, but it's not complete yet. Also, if they don't support ftp access, can the software run under linux? I'd rather use ftp tho, I don't like the idea of having to use software to upload files and having to install it everytime I switch PCs.
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It was in Amazon's Web Services Developer's email newsletter yesterday. They make use of the Amazon S3 Service for storage on the backend.
- jnorris441, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11The MPAA and FBI have been dispatched to your house....Just kidding.
Or am I? - JemmStar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6From the Official Blog / FAQ
"Monday, March 27, 2006
User Q&A - Mac OS X Support
Q: Do you have any plans on supporting the Mac OS X platform anytime soon?
A: Yes. By June, we'll offer a platform independent version of our desktop software utilizing Java. Also, by mid-April, you will be able to access, restore, and share files to Mac users via the web interface. Lastly, if you are in a mixed platform environment, ElephantDrive will currently recognize Mac and Linux filesystems mounted to Samba shares on Windows clients, and transfer them accordingly."
So the answer is maybe in June you will be able to use OS X - loqqq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5According to their blog, the beta period offers 5GB space. After production launch, it will be unlimited.
http://elephantdrivesupport.blogspot.com/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I always thought that box.net was a porno site.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wrong, you have to be nuts to only store only ONE backup on a beta service. Nothing wrong with having a few backups using different services.
- Fantom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Streamload are great, they've been around a long time and know their *****. I've been using Streamload for years and literally have terabytes stored, it's only $10 a month for unlimited storage with 25GB in downloads per month. But you can't beat free, so it will be interesting to see where this all ends. For now I don't mind paying for a service I know is good. TANSTAAFL.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Well, that and the whole "it's in Beta" thing."
It works for Google though - redivider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Streamload has worked fine for me, plus they give 10GB of space."
Looks like a good service, but they only allow 500MB download per month on the 25GB free accounts. This isn't really practical for a backup solution where you'd want to download everything at some point. If for some reason you needed everything you'd have to do it in 500MB chunks and it would take you 4+ years.
And what's the point up uploading that much stuff if you can only download a fraction of it at any given time. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I honestly don't trust any service to backup data.
- bigdc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"ElephantDrive will ultimately be supported by subscription fees. We aren’t trying to give the impression that ElephantDrive will be free forever, especially for large amounts of storage – we may, however, support smaller amounts for free on an ongoing basis.
"Pricing isn’t yet finalized, but you may rest assured it will be competitive – that is, as good or better than existing offerings."
So, once the trial period's over, no more free ride. Enjoy your two months of backups. - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yes, I see the free trial tab. Looks like they have a minor certificate issue there, but it works okay.
- StepJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+585MB file size cap
- placain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you want something that's ALWAYS going to be around, and where you won't depend on the good graces of ElephantDrive deciding to offer it for free, try Jungle Disk.
Jungle Disk is a free slick front-end for Amazon S3 that lets you use it as a webdav disk drive. It works on Windows, Mac, and Linux, and there's GPL'd code that lets other people develop alternative compatible front-ends.
Yeah, you'll have to pay the few cents per gigabyte that S3 charges, but you won't be sending your data to anyone except Amazon - plus, your data will be encrypted with an open source encryption protocol and accessible via open source software!
Given this alternative I can't imagine why you'd go with free beer over paying the few cents to Amazon and being able to access your files via something with a GPL file format that does webdav...
http://digg.com/software/Jungle_Disk:_mount_Amazon_S3_as_a_drive_for_cheap_reliable_infinite_storage - r00tus3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Come on guys, this isn't going to be your ONLY backup, anyone with half a brain knows that, and especially not if the data is important. I would use something like this if I wanted to access data that I was using at home, at work or at uni (if i was still a student) but didn't have a memory stick. It has its uses, but don't think of it as a way to secure your data, because I don't think that what it's intended to be. They really need to allow ftp access, because otherwise they cut out half of the users who would consider using something like this, and aren't running windows.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5INACCURATE!!! (According to summary anyway)
"is creating a service similar to that of Xdrive. However, they offer unlimited offsite backup free of charge if you sign up as a beta tester"
So you still have to pay but you get free offsite backups.....
Also the site is dugg so how reliable would it be for data storage? Not very... - IlyaIlyaIlya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3From their FAQ:
"How much does it cost?
ElephantDrive is free during our beta period. We want you to understand and appreciate the service before you ever pay for it."
so it's not free at all.... - lludacrisboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i dont know about you. but this services looks retarded. i shut mine off a little while ago and it was still running in the background. something fishy is up with this site. i feel like this is a way for the government to watch what were doing. id say uninstall pretty quick. and the fact that its running inthe background doesnt make it feel better either.
- lux55, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thought I'd add now that their site is back up that it's apparently Windows-only. That's a shame. I'm on a Mac myself, and so are a lot of people I know (both Mac and Linux folks). IMO, web-based storage should be accessible from _any_ machine, not just the ones with special software installed...
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"The submitter might have assumed that they were tapping into Amazon's new S3 service"
Good assumption, given that Amazon's Web Services email newsletter #16, which Amazon sent out yesterday is likely where he got the link from. Tells about several services making use of S3. - CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Reported as inaccurate - it's only free for a limited trial period.
- retral, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I wouldn't trust a free service to back up my data and be secure and dependable. Plus, my backups (ghost images) tend to be between 4-12GB, so that would be a royal PITA to upload over a 90KB/s (kBYTES, not bits - so like 10-12 seconds per MB) connection..
- JeyNyce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Now I have a place to store all of my bootlegged DVDs......Just kidding.
- Philbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So according to other posts and my own experience, some or all of the site doesn't load. If they can't handle a few digg visitors can they handle storing terabytes of data? At least they got a hot girl for the front page, I'll give them that. Kinda reminds me of Lindsey Arent.
- itsallgeektome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I wouldn't trust a free service to back up my data and be secure and dependable."
Well, that and the whole "it's in Beta" thing. It's free and it's a prototype, I think they're pretty up front about that. - JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Site's down. Glad I didn't put up anything. :)
- ThomasCS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This service was actually down a little bit earlier today, so I'm not sure what will happen if it gets dugg to the front page and everybody decides to make use of the "unlimited" storage.
It is indeed hard to argue with free, but they're pretty careful to point out that it's "free during beta" rather than always free. I wouldn't put anything on there that's important - you may just find yourself being asked to pay to access it at some stage in the future.
In the meantime, worth trying out with less important stuff. - warfang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"First, you register with us and get an account. This puts you into our system and establishes your "Trunk" (pun, intended), where all your digital stuff will be safe and sound.
Second, you download and install the ElephantDesktop. If you're on a high speed connection, the download will take about 12 seconds. The installation process will take about 30 seconds.
Third, you start the application, log in, and begin to fill your Trunk."
So you do have to download software to use their service. - TransmitThis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Read the article - downloaded it, had a quick play with it
didnt like it so uninstalled it
Going to try some of the suggestions above instead
waiting for GDrive also - Celsius032, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That thing was HORRIBLE, poor interface, error messages from it even after I uninstalled. damn and now they have my email too lol
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2my thoughts EXACTLY... I don't feel like using this, having gigs of my info and data on it, being happy, then... randomly... BOOM "Trial Over... $39.95/month for your account to stay active" or something... sorry Amazon.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No Linux. Don't care.
- senixon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This thing doesn't work at all, tried uploading a bit of music, it won't even get through the first song. Other then that it's an awesome concept.
- bonyboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mozy - 2GB FREE
http://www.mozy.com - rudolphdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And the site is down? Not a place I would trust any info worth something to me.
- rauz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Left out in the cold? How? I install and try applications all the time and it's only once in a while that they're made with .NET. And it's only the smaller and less professional apps. So I'll do fine without it.
I installed .NET for the last time a couple of months ago, it added logins to my accounts (which I later couldn't remove), it was a hassle to uninstall etc. Whenever something's made in .NET I know it's a pointer that it isn't as well made as other applications.
I never use Amazon since we have cheaper and better stores for that stuff in Sweden.
Other people have built services like it without using .NET. I guess it just goes to prove that these guys aren't that good. - netant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Proper system administration backup requires offsite storage. Basically, burning a DVD backup will help recover data if a hacker blows away your machine, or if a hard drive dies. But you've lost all your data if a fire hits your apartment.
Having an arrangement with a friend to swap DVD storage is a good idea, but DVD media makes for crappy backup. Don't expect your data to be intact if you need to recover it ten (or even two) years from now.
These remote storage sites makes for a quick, opportune, remote backup drive. I totally agree with you that you can't rely on it to be your primary backup, but redundancy is good. Also there definitely could be instances when having it could be quite handy.
Ex - Windows environments have pretty crappy "free" backup options, and keeping stuff like registration codes is a pain. Lets say you keep 2 tight 4GB partitions for software for your laptop. Then lets say you're based in NYC and your laptop drive dies in Albuquerque, NM on a week business trip (or gets stolen). You could buy/install a replacement drive (or laptop), boot off a specially designed recovery USB, spend 3-12 hours DLing on a high speed line, and then restore the image data (perhaps with dd) to the drive.
I'm not saying E-Drive is that remote, portable solution. I'm just briefly pointing out aspects of backup, and how recoverability can be enhanced using such a solution. - gympanzi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looking at the EULA, this important piece should be duly noted. They can take away your access without notice ...and keep your data!
8. Termination; Access Restriction
The Company may terminate the Agreement, or terminate or suspend your access to the Software at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice. Upon such termination or suspension, your right to use the Software will immediately cease. UPON SUCH TERMINATION OR SUSPENSION, ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE STORED ON THE COMPANY’S HARDWARE AND/OR USING THE SOFTWARE MAY NOT BE RETRIEVED LATER, AT THE COMPANY’S SOLE DISCRETION. -
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