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- Stompp, on 10/12/2007, -7/+58Does anybody else just not care at this point? Seriously.
- Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37I think HD-DVD will win just because of the name...
It makes sense, and the consumers coming later will be less with technology, but will know what HD means, and know that they want an HD DVD...
Name alone is a big deal.
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themastersb said it before me... - Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28where is that meat cleaver?
- Giever, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30I'm still holding out for these babies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_versatile_disc - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26well they should. them parting with their cash is what decides which format wins. by the time the players are down in our price range the war is already decided
- UberC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I care only because I'd rather not buy $500+ technology that goes unsupported.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14The PS2 brought the world DVD? Dude, c'mon.
Me and my family are definitely not part of the "early adopter" crowd, but we had two DVD players before I got an XBox or PS2. - icealchemist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14When the Porn Industry picks a standard it will all be over. :o
- hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Unless you have a very large, 1080p plasma, the picture won't look that great. Upconverted DVD looks really nice on HDTVs and the players are under $100 and all the media you already own works on them. I believe HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will be very niche like Superdisc or DVD-Audio and DVDs, just like CDs, will continue to sell well. Until of course, IPTV or whatever comes along and digitally delivered media will start taking most of the share, like buying music online is right now.
- darthsnoopy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10yah, those of us with HDTV's care greatly, as SD stuff looks like crap on a large TV, and the amount of HD content available is pathetic. Sure, I can pay 80 a month for hardware and service to get 5 or so HD channels off of cable or satelite...but then I'm locked into HD discovery (animals in HD), HD ESPN (sports do look good in HD, players dont however), and HD news (yay, lets check out the pores on the news guy..blech). So yah, if theres a way for me to watch braveheart in HD...I'm interested...just need them to sort this crap out.
If you don't have an HDTV, you probably don't care. But if you ever are thinking of getting one, trust me...anything that provides us higher quality content is a win for all of us - stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Seriously, it seems like the only people who care are the media companies and the "analysts" that make stupid predictions about which format will win.
Both formats get a big "meh" from me. Sorry, but I don't really feel like paying for a new technology that basically just introduces more content control and restrictions. - modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11makinbacon: From that review it seems that opinion isn't shared with the reviewers, as most found the build quality for the blueray player flimsy and cheap.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The PS2 most certainly did NOT launch DVDs into the incredible success they are/were. The higher quality image, with no degredation over time, as well as the retirement of a tired media (VHS) with the inclusion of things a VHS tape could not do, such as subtitles in multiple languages, different audio tracks, documentaries/extras, etc., etc....
These are the things that sold DVDs. A PS2 certainly did not play any major role in my adoption of DVDs - If a PS2 ever crosses the threshold of my home, I'll have to burn it to the ground to purify it. Let's not give Sony too much credit here. - jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8DVD helped make the PS2 a success, not the other way around.
Considering the really weak launch line up the system had, the only reason people bought the system was for the DVD movie ability. Sony is hoping the same will happen with the PS3, but the difference is that, unlike DVD was back then, Bluray is not yet a hit (and probably never will be). - modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Better get sharpening.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13These early adopters mean jack ***** to me
- pgup, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11The way I see it, no one is going to buy Blu-Ray because 'DVD' isn't in the name. Every day consumers see 'HD-DVD' and assume it's just another DVD disc that they have been using for years. Blu Ray makes it sound like something foreign that general consumers aren't familiar with.
I really don't care who wins the format wars, this is just my two cents.
edit: beaten twice - WolfBoss, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12After the PS3 comes out then we will see the war really begin and end relatively quickly.
Don't know which way, and don't care but it will probably be the deciding factor. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Nope. I don't care at all. I'm done with optical disk formats. Hard disk storage is dirt cheap. I'd rather spend $500 on hard drives than buy a BluRay or HD-DVD player at this point.
- downneck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7close, this is a very unscientific analysis of something even more unscientific.
all this article does is prove that toshiba makes a better unit than samsung
hdblu.com are total ***** morons - modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Bluetooth sounds like some kind of mountain ogre.
- sidebuster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Well from what I remember, the porn industry said that they are sticking with DVDs and continuing on the Internet distribution way.
- anglachel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I'm all for HD-DVD just because I don't believe that sony will actually let me use what I purchase, their DRM track record is so horrible that they should not be allowed to attempt to manage digital rights any more.
- Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I don't want either. My DVDs look nice, and I don't want to pay $500+ and the pleasure of rebuying my collection to get my movies working, when they already do. I don't have a 50" plasma, though, and I don't plan on getting one anytime soon.
- eviltoaster2go, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8discs aren't the future. Discs get scratched and make the movie viewing experience all skippy. DVDs are really intolerant of scratches, bluray and hddvd are worse. Seriously guys, there has to be a better way. Internet Delivered high def media will probably be the future: HD iTS, Xbox HD Movie Marketplace or something
- xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Arn't the players backwards compatible with regular DVD?
- MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh, how I wish this was just a one-round battle. Then it'd be over and we could all move on.
- Sixcolors, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If the industry decides to go with HD DVD over BluRay, then that's all. Sony has a great track record when it comes to releasing formats that the industry shuns.
- xelloss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I am going to pick up the HDDVD drive for the Xbox 360, I won't be buying any HDDVDs, just renting them all from Netflix. I am willing to risk a hundred or so bucks if HDDVD doesn't win, but I really want some HD movies, and since I can't get a upconverter for old DVDs becuase the whole component thing, I see this as my only way to go.
- Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@xelloss
They don't HAVE to be, but they usually are, but they but then it's a $500+ DVD player. The player itself won't magically turn your old DVDs into hi-def shinyness, you need to buy your discs of choice all over again if you want them in HD. - tardmongerster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Close. He was a Danish king. The Bluetooth wireless logo is his initials in Nordic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_I_of_Denmark - akshay626, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"discs aren't the future. Discs get scratched and make the movie viewing experience all skippy. DVDs are really intolerant of scratches, bluray and hddvd are worse. Seriously guys, there has to be a better way. Internet Delivered high def media will probably be the future: HD iTS, Xbox HD Movie Marketplace or something"
Blu-ray disc are scratch resistant. TDK designed some scratch proof material to coat it. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sad but true. Oh wait they have, the internet.
- Kev1000000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Actually, Bob, they do upconvert old DVD's. While they arent true HDTV sources, it still looks better than regular DVD's.
- xemumanic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_blurayvshddvd_roundtwo.html
"If nothing else, our second Blu-ray versus HD DVD face-off strongly indicates that what some people had declared a format war won is still far from over."
The only real difference between these formats are storage capacity and support from the movie companies. Image quality happened to look better early on because Sony for some stupid reason used worse film transfers than the DVDs of the same films. This next round, if you can call it that, shows that that early ***** up is all but done.
I do support Blu Ray over HD DVD, but only because it has the storage capacity, and the overwhelming studio support (the Universal thing wasn't news, they NEVER supported Blu Ray). But I wouldn't buy either format until at least 2 years from now, or whenever I can get a dual layer Blu Ray burner for $220 or less. - gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have an HD A1, it is an exceptional Up Scaling DVD Player and HD DVD is even better. I can’t even watch my SD DVD’s on my progressive scan player anymore, suddenly it looks like crapp.
HD DVD is far more consumer friendly than Blueray and has dual format disk to future proof your investment. Blueray as a movie format is inferior in every respect to HD DVD. If the quality Blueray offers is all consumers had seen and there were no HD DVD, Blurr Ray would still fail, it’s just not good enough. All the extra storeage capacity in the world won’t fix bad codecs, fragile disk or studio paranoia. - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So the new DRM stuff means:
-no ripping?
-no playback on linux/etc?
I'll wait till there are ways around that, before I put my money on either. - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5You don't think that people who aren't tech-savvy will look at HD DVD and say "I already have that"?
- anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hmm, porn on hi-def! I'd like to see that once.
- Brereton55, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7***** again Sony
- negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Before name there is content... yeah people will naturally lean towards the "HD" version of DVD's, but if you walk into a store and see a majority of the movies on Blu Ray, which format are you going to choose? Just because the name is unfamiliar, it won't make it do any worse, especially if it is tactically superior. If anything, chances are HD-DVD will lose simply through lack of studio commitment. IE. If you walk into a store (let's say for an oh... video game console!) and you go looking around, trying to find the best investment. There are two consoles, and the offer identical games... however you notice that one format has significantly more... which are you going to choose? If you used logic than you would pick the console that would pose a better investment, the one with more titles to choose from. Yes the name of the format is important blah blah blah, but remember, all that stuff is helpful in a format war, but not entirely necessary
- Sixcolors, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2An article based on research done by scanning the buyer reviews at Amazon.com? Is that the best they can do?
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1there was a story dugg a few months back saying that the larger porn studios are going the way of blu-ray.
i think hd-dvd beat them out of the gate releasing the first porn hd-dvd though. im sure there's a list somewhere on the web. - apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you are aware that hd-dvd and blu-ray share the same drm scheme and encoding, right? blu-ray is just now getting around to releasing titles in h.264/AVC instead of mp2, so we should see a closer race as far as quality is concerned.
anyways, its interesting to note that universal is the only company that is not supporting blu-ray. why? because blu-ray is primarily responsible for the postponed activation of the ICT flag; the tag on your media that tells your player/ equipment to go into anal super-protect the studios assets at all costs short of burning down the consumers house. universal has been and is still adamantly pressing to have the ICT flag set on all of its media from day one.
please note that of the hd-dvd camp thomson, hp, paramount, and warner brothers are also part of the blu-ray consortium as well. that leaves only five companies supporting hd-dvd. only three of those companies will actually be producing any content whatsoever; a maximum of one company is producing exclusive content, period.
even if i were a sony-hater, i would be reluctant to get behind a movie player that has only one exclusive content provider available for it. three years from now sony haters will hate sony even more if they win the format war, and hd-dvd early adopters are left with a useless format and only able to find movies available for it from one studio. - Almadiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe consumer satisfaction is often overlooked because it is so difficult to measure reliably. Until the dust settles and the earnings reports trickle down, all one can really do is compare products by their merits. Most other measures are highly speculative, if not misleading to the public. It is in my interest to choose honestly the format that I think is best, not to let some sample population choose for me. Otherwise the outcome of this market competition will not necessarily be in the best interests of the people whom that outcome affects. To say that a poll such as this proves that one or the other is superior is simply out of line, and lacks the substantive quality of a real argument.
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1blu-ray disks are supposedly better at resisting scratches than cds, dvds and hd-dvds combined... considering they've been on the market for a while now and i havent read of anyone actually testing them though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durabis
i PROMISE to digg the first blu-ray vs screwdriver story!
the durabis website has an interesting graph. blu-ray > steel wool?!?!?
http://www.durabis.com/en/tec00200.htm - brianb722, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Round 1 has barely started, it's way too early to declare either format a winner or loser.
- Sixcolors, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Porn in high-def? Ew... no thanks. Too much visual information.
- digdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1World first porn HD Video now comes to HD-DVD format (featuring Riko Tachibana)
http://www.glayz.co.jp/hddvd/hddvd.html - mattryan50, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dooooood...there will be no winners in the format war. Bill Gates said Blu-Ray and HD-DVD would be the "last physical format" war. But I think it's already over. Everybody and their mom who has an HDTV doesn't even have it hooked up right! Most people think that DVD is already in high definition! And the reason people went to DVD is because you don't have to rewind anymore. Nobody besides tech people care about the differences in resolution between DVD and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD. What is going to happen is both sides will drag this out and make absolutely no money. And by the time anyone does care about it all content will just be downloaded to your hard drive in your media center device. Until your mom or your sister starts talking about Blu-Ray/HD-DVD neither will go anywhere. I'm sick of hearing about this "war."
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