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- Findeton, on 11/06/2009, -0/+25I'm a member of the Spanish Pirate Party and we think it's a bad law: It allows the government to cut off internet without previous judicial authorization. An administrative agency will previously decide if they cut you off or not, and you can be heard then, but you'll only get the chance to a judicial appeal after they cut you off.
Sadly, it looks like the Swedish Pirate Party voted for this law because their national laws were worse than this, so for them it's a phyrric victory, but for every other country that already asked for a previous judicial authorization it's a BIG defeat, as european laws override national laws. - TragedyAndHope, on 11/06/2009, -0/+13The powers that be want the last truly free way of exchanging ideas and information in their control. DO NOT EVER BACK DOWN ON NET NUETRALITY. The internet is ours, the people's, not theirs to have any control over. This law will be just the beginning in feeding the insatiable appetite of the machine, do not accept it.
- Schmich, on 11/06/2009, -3/+16Many right points in here. Giving up their sovereignty is why lots of people are against the E.U. Not that it's any different than the US if you compare in size...yes the difference is that the US is one country but the E.U. can feel as one as well. I myself am against it. Personally I like Switzerland's approach, work with the E.U. but don't let them take over. Switzerland has always (I'm Swedish, not Swiss) been a country of example when it comes to democracy, its constitution was heavily influenced by the US one.
The unfortunate thing when it comes to laws being passed in the EU is that they usually are the lowest common denominator. For example in this case Sweden had worse laws and so was content with this. Other examples for eg. environmental rules, Sweden has always had very high national laws whereas the laws in southern countries are low. Which laws are applied? Those low from the south, bringing countries like Sweden down, instead of bringing everyone up a notch. I'm disappointed in the EU and Sweden. - Floobins, on 11/06/2009, -2/+14They did.
- inactive, on 11/06/2009, -2/+11Huh?.I wouldn't exactly say due process is "useless".
- Findeton, on 11/06/2009, -0/+7It's kind of complicated, it's not as simple as that, maybe a lawyer could explain it so that anyone could understand it (actually, that's impossible :P). It's not clear and it also may depend on a law by law decision of a judge. The thing is that this Package represents a real risk to internet user's freedoms.
- LiquidShield, on 11/06/2009, -2/+6Well the issue with all this is not just the fact that the E.U. has basically put down laws that blanket every country in Europe, but the fact that governments around the world are starting to see the internet as a society in of it's self. What happens when you have a society that has very little control over it? The "powers that be" want to place rules, boundaries, laws, etc... on that society so that they feel that they have control of it's population (i.e. big brothers watching you, or the movie V for Vendetta) . Bad part about all this is, is that it's millions of people verses the few big businesses. We all know the arguments on it "They just want to keep the rich, richer and the poor, poorer", and the many other arguments that we have heard over the past few years since Lars Ulrich started the whole copyright thing with napster. We all have been reading the diggs about the "Secret Anti-Piracy Treaty" that is going on right now. If you look at the idea of it as a whole it wont work. We all know once the ISP's have to start shutting people off of the internet, and the big bells of the world start to go under. The government(s) decided that they need to kick people of the world wide network for so called "copy right infringements" they will start to go "no more we are losing to much money". You know the first one to start that up will be AT&T since they are basically the only big bell left out there. Once the little ISP's start shutting down, because of this whole thing. They start to lose money off of the leasing of the lines everything will go to crap, and you will start to see laws getting passed to abolish this ridiculous way of thinking. Hopefully at that time big businesses will start to adopt new business models to fit will the changing times.
- Hellahulla, on 11/06/2009, -1/+4Don't know why you're getting buried for that. It is somewhat true.
I don't really care about sovereignty, but many do and it is one of the biggest Euro-sceptic arguments. - 1234brandon, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Preach on!
- fragomatik, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1FTA: "The protection granted by the amendment only relates to measures taken by States, not private parties," it says. "Hence, restrictions imposed by operators at the request of right-holders do not fall under the scope of this provision."
OK, not *totally* useless, but this significantly reduces its usefulness. - inactive, on 11/06/2009, -1/+1Im pro-EU.
I live in 2 different countries of my natural.Learn 3languages.Dated 4 girls from different EU countries and now i received a job proposal to come to my native country,where i am now living in my native EUcountry,with my swedish fiancee,in,a workplace apart from the natives i got 2 brits,3spaniards,1 dane,1 italian and we all get along.Get out at night and play football(socer)on sundays.
Im little more open mind on this than you kidos.
one thing is net neutrality and torrents(which im on pirate's side apart than i only download tvshows)/other thing is being against EU only because its popular to be and its a european conservative parties strategy to win elections(which im not).
1st paragraph in EU foundation history was the european communists and european ultra-right parties(among other small radical parties) were against it. PERIOD! they only compromise to get if they get more power afterwards.Its well documented.
Racional europeans,well informed and centered(right and left) were who pushed this.Some with well-hearted minded wanted peace,prosperity and cultural exchange.They missed.They forgot the damm radicals.I could only blame them for that.
The same tactics conservatives use in america.Shame on you all.
Im pro-EU because a)i have a brain and could think for myself b)know that people have short memory c)know that people will always be ungrateful and have a loyalty of a ***** dog.
one think is agreeing with one idea for being logical,other is being that ideology only to be cool.
Well,you smelly radicals i have 2 words for: ***** YOU! ...................ALL!
now bury me down,you stupid smelly cowards *****' monkeys.You are nothing.NOTHING - Averness, on 11/06/2009, -2/+2Europe. Pioneers in opressing the people and taking their rights away. They invented that ***** centuries ago, and keep getting better at it.
- Schmich, on 11/06/2009, -4/+1Ah crap, didn't realize I wrote in the bottom box -.-
- fragomatik, on 11/06/2009, -9/+3So it's useless.
- inactive, on 11/06/2009, -14/+2"as european laws override national laws."
Err, I find it hard to believe those countries gave up that much of their sovereignty
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