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- n0c0ntr0l, on 02/20/2008, -2/+93If even the BBC plan to use p2p then this is very good news. It means that throttling p2p which has normally been associated as something illegal suddenly becomes very legal and then ISP's will be pressured to stop such practices. This is very good news. Now if only more places would roll out fibre to the home, then we can see some serious p2p.
- Quactaur, on 02/20/2008, -0/+49This is brilliant. If the EU are throwing their weight behind p2p, then that means that legislation preventing throttling will soon follow, meaning that all the member states will have to stop ISPs throttling torrent traffic.
- Ph0biA, on 02/20/2008, -2/+40So wait, EU's government is actually helping their people? Why do I live in America?
- vfreak2, on 02/20/2008, -2/+33Let the power of p2p be unleashed upon the world!
- KevinJim, on 02/20/2008, -0/+19It's Open Source so If we don't like it, we can just fork it ! Simple as that.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 02/20/2008, -0/+15In the UK generally the isp's with download caps tend to be very very good ones. they tend to lean to 300GB a month, and don't throttle at all. It's the unlimited ones that you should be wary of, almost all of them throttle and oversell. It's kind of ironic, those with the bandwidth have limits and those who don't have it claim to have unlimited amounts.
- EmitStop, on 02/20/2008, -0/+14This is great news, the more legal content on p2p the better.
- nitsnipe, on 02/20/2008, -1/+14If you go and live in Europe for at least a month, and then come back; you will notice yourself having a whole different mentality about life in general.
- Quadrille, on 02/20/2008, -1/+12America sucks more every day.
- schroeder, on 02/20/2008, -0/+9It is great because it will bring legal uses of bittorent to the limelight making it harder for ISP to throttle it's use. There will always be other clients. And this will be open source so there is really nothing not to trust. If it turns out to have some sort of monitoring software or anything dodgy use something else. This is a good thing.
- Takran, on 02/20/2008, -0/+8Americans dislike Europe?
*****, I want to *go* to Europe, but I'm too broke. - cliffski, on 02/20/2008, -1/+8are you so retarded you type this ***** on every story? grow up kiddie.
- tokaijazz, on 02/20/2008, -2/+9If it's not an attempt to create restrictive laws later... sounds cool for me.
- Amnesia10, on 02/20/2008, -0/+6That is what comes of living a region with socialised medicine! We think of others rather than just ourselves. We are not perfect but I cant think of a nicer place to live.
- Alex.w, on 02/20/2008, -0/+6They do? When they come here they rave on about "the culture."
- LemonHerb, on 02/20/2008, -0/+6Hopefully that will mean that I can watch Top Gear legally in the future. Ill watch a few adds to support one of my favorite tv shows.
- marrstu, on 02/20/2008, -3/+9It also does not run natively in linux.
- KMartSheriff, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5What are you talking about? Europe is awesome.
- SA007, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5Bitorrent Rocks!Good Luck EU!
- n0c0ntr0l, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5Most pipex resellers. Fast.co.uk, Aquiss and the best one around... http://www.adsl24.co.uk
They are all really good ISP's and none of them throttle. Aquiss even provides a gamers package with server routing with minimal hops to both jolt and multiplay. - DarkDragon, on 02/20/2008, -1/+6$20,000 - New Computers
$80,000 - Servers
$100,000 - Connection
$21,800,000 - Fritos, Bawls, & Red Bull - nitsnipe, on 02/20/2008, -1/+6One thing that confuses me is why do Americans dislike Europe so much?
- surKaz, on 02/20/2008, -1/+6I'm curious how they use it.. but I'm glad they are working with it.. realizing that it's here to stay... and they should put it to good use.. That's the way a true committee about these kinda things should think... Kudos EU..
- mikeem, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5Yea they do that sometimes. Europe's very idealistic - People can be educated freely, can have cheap medicine, can have their privacy/rights protected. (I think our history made us wary of Powerful corporations and Governments) Taxes are higher sometimes but hell its invested back into society - see example above!
- NoOneButMe, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5Tribbler isn't so much a bittorrent client as, the same thing as it is a competitor for Vuze/Zudeo and bittorrent.com - aka content distribution via bittorrent. its not "Next generation" in any way.
- o0joshua0o, on 02/20/2008, -0/+4I wonder what Bram Cohen thinks of all this.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 02/20/2008, -0/+4BBC is funded by the government so no ads. Even better!
- maccam94, on 02/20/2008, -1/+5so... they're going to put $22 million into writing a single program? With tons of help from people who work for free? Where is this money going? Seems a bit excessive, although I imagine $22 million + Azureus would make a pretty amazing application.
- scabbers, on 02/20/2008, -2/+5They won't need to throttle the BBC's p2p, they'll just give people even stricter download caps.
- Ganja420, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Look at how awesome the DMV is
- OverlordXenu, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3I'm a first generation American, born and raised. I hate this country.
I'm moving to France in a couple of years, or maybe Switzerland. I haven't decided if becoming Swiss is worth learning Swiss German. - sagat, on 02/20/2008, -8/+11Don't forget $22,000,000 = €3.50 or the price of a happy meal.
- inactive, on 02/20/2008, -2/+5You're welcome to leave at any time. I'd rather stick around here and try to fix the problem, though.
- blackjack75, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3You are somehow right since the happy meal has probably costed millions in health problems...
- marrstu, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Open source means you can pull that ***** out and re distribute it sans DRM and other crap which also makes it very unlikely they would put that in there in the first place.
- nonsequitor, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Azureus is no more, the project has become Vuze.
- hresult, on 02/20/2008, -4/+7what's wrong with uTorrent?
- shackleton1, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2You can already watch BBC legally online, although only a limited service - use their watch again tool.
It's free, and it is entirely legal. - sirclown82, on 02/20/2008, -2/+4I've never liked the EU before, but now with them coming down on Microsoft and promoting P2P, my opinion is starting to change now.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 02/20/2008, -4/+6Unlike the corporation run government in America, the EU try to help the people as much as possible rather than the business's. It's one of the main reasons why so many countries try to join it.
- AgmLauncher, on 02/21/2008, -1/+3Sounds like a plan to help undermine American software giants like EA and Microsoft.
Best way to beat American software is to help people steal it...... - swiftsam, on 02/20/2008, -1/+3great that they are pro p2p and all, but what the hell are they spending $22 million on when there are plenty of free open source apps doing all or part of what they describe.
- lukasmack, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2I believe its a good day to be in England.
I've had enough of virgin media supposedly throttling my 2mbps connection to 1mbps for 4 hours after downloading 350mb. Although running speed tests when its throttled i get near dial-up speeds.
Virgin you used to be cool! - sERIALeATER, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Wow, I suck with my 20GB/month download and 10GB/month upload -_-
- digitalpencil, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1What exactly is this? A new bittorrent-based protocol, or just another client?
I like the idea that the EU is supporting & investing into p2p and can see why corporations are interested in the technology given the advent of on-demand TV & the inherent costs in delivering this media, but i'm not entirely convinced that i'm enthused with the idea of corporations shaping the future of bittorrent.
I will reserve judgment until there's more info... Plus, p2p-next's site looks like s**t, which shouldn't matter but doesn't entirely fill me with confidence either! - karolisonline, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1article is interpreted not in very clear way. all these $22(it is not so much in euros..) will be spent on whole technologie wich will be used by tv broadcasters, so client won't be like uTorrent or azureus. the only similarity with these will be protocol.
- schroeder, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1The point I was making is that people will still develop their own solutions but since there is government backing on a client using the same technology, it will be harder for the RIAA to say p2p is only for piracy and ISPs face much more powerful opposition if they try to throttle traffic. This is nothing like DRMed iTunes and Napster. It is just the delivery system not the content that is the issue and there are plenty to choose from without restriction. I seriously cannot understand what you're getting at. There will always be trackers (thepiratebay) and there will always be clients (uTorrent). But now these tools won't be looked solely on as being piracy tools. And if something like the BBC uses bittorent, there is no way the ISPs would be able to throttle without a big legal fight.
- Marty1h, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Swarmcast doesn't steal, better scale.
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