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- Murrabbit, on 07/10/2009, -0/+70It's not that sexy, but it is my favorite way to ***** THE RIAA!
- twiztidsinz, on 07/11/2009, -0/+37Hey baby.. wanna come back to my place and check out my warez?
- Ninh, on 07/10/2009, -1/+32Surprisingly, the digital natives decide to do business with those who don't spit them in the face.
- MRavioli, on 07/11/2009, -1/+30I'd seed her all night long.
- burninthepyre, on 07/11/2009, -1/+27Pirates are younger, even if the worst happens, we'll just outlive the cranky old bastards then do what we want.
- AureliaMasterso, on 07/10/2009, -2/+25I think it's indirectly sexy. I get free books, music, and movies, and thus I am more cultured, have more money, and am more confident. Then, the sexy comes in.
- dsmx, on 07/10/2009, -0/+14We now have choice on who we get our media from and people are naturally going to go for the company who offers the best service. At present the best service is offered by p2p and torrent sites. Even if they charged for the content on the torrent sites people would still go there because it offers the best service in every department.
If you want to reduce piracy you have to offer a service that is better than what the torrent sites offer, suing someone for using a service that is better than yours is not the way of getting them to be your customer. - Kahnza, on 07/11/2009, -1/+12You mean my massive collection of music and movies can get me laid? HALLELUJAH!
- namochan, on 07/10/2009, -0/+10Depends what you pirate, yarr.
- CandidateZero, on 07/11/2009, -0/+10The RIAA is merely a hate sponge whose function is (in part) to soak up the bad PR created by these copyright lawsuits.
Ex: Capitol v Thomas is brought by Capitol Records, yet people think "***** the RIAA," which is as effective at directing proper blame as "***** the system." Capitol Records must be recognized as the gangster, not the vague monster that is the RIAA, which lacks any public accountability.
Also, Capitol Records is just part of Capitol Music Group (CMG), which owns many labels, including Virgin, Apple and Manhattan Records, all of which have their own respective sub-labels. Beyond that, CMG is owned by Electric & Musical Industries (EMI), which owns even more *****.
SUMMARY: The RIAA is a distraction. For Capitol v Thomas, don't think "***** the RIAA," think "I'm never going to buy another Capitol Records-published album again." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Capitol_Recor ...
The same goes for any every other case, music, movie or otherwise. - robbo1337, on 07/10/2009, -0/+9Find me a viable and attractive commercial service that performs as well or as conveniently as a private torrent site community and I'll pay for it. I won;t pay a lot for it but I will be willing to pay a 2-3 figure sum for an annual subscription
- kopiwrite, on 07/10/2009, -0/+7TFA
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If the media companies don’t make access to online media easier and more attractive “we could lose a whole generation as supporters of artistic creation and legal use of digital services. Economically, socially, and culturally, this would be a tragedy,” she said.
“Digital Europe can only be built with content creators on board,” Reding told the lecture, “and with the generation of digital natives as interested users and innovative consumers.”
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I disagree wholeheardtedly the way she defines "content creators". The way she talks about it is that the "content creators" one would think the only people creating content on the internet are the "professional artists" i.e. actors, musicians on big labels, etc.
The way I see it if "content creators" want to stick with these dinosaur corporations, ***** 'em. They're not the content creators I'm looking for. The art I want to watch and listen to is the art made freely available on the internet by the artist himself for the pleasure of sharing art. This is inevitably the future of content creation - more ubiquitous rather than corporate. This is not something to be afraid of but rather something we should be pushing towards and looking foward to. - bdbr, on 07/11/2009, -0/+7I don't think piracy is sexy. I do know what's NOT sexy: being lured into buying an album based on one or two good songs, only to find out the rest is complete *****, and having no right to return it.
- WTFNuggets, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5I wonder if anyone in the RIAA reads these comments. A lot of good advice(common sense) is offered that would help them...
- yocouchdigga, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3Global Eiffel Tower on the RIAA.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 07/11/2009, -0/+3Piracy happens on the high seas off the coast of Somalia.
Bootlegging is the unauthorized copying and selling of copyrighted media (re: China).
FILE SHARING is what we are talking about here. Like Sesame Street and my mother taught me to do. - int19h, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Yeah, and the business model isn't taken far enough. If these so called "pirates" walk around on the street, for instance, and see something that's copyrighted, a little man should instantly appear next to them and demand payments for unlicensed usage of the eyes.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Paying the same price for a 1 cent to manufacture CD when recording costs have dropped to almost nothing and the studios are STILL not paying the artists and musicians crap for THEIR work.
That's not sexy either. - fasda, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2It's my way of saying I don't have a steady or large income from being a student. I tell myself that one day I'll buy stuff I've downloaded except for the tv shows if they don't put their shows on hulu or something they aren't trying to get my business.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Well the pirated porn is sexy.
- Data33, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1What's with old people always using the "You'll understand when you get older" crap when they lack better arguments?
- cfuse, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1I was referring to the overall trend of the decrease in cost of entry to production of content. The concept of a select group of creators and publishers is the paradigm that is failing (and to which she subscribes). It's the difference between having to send a manuscript to a publisher (with all the restrictions that entails) or releasing your book on the web (as a book, or a blog, or whatever - you aren't constrained by the publisher's format either) under whatever conditions you and the market will tolerate. The hierarchical creator -> publisher -> audience model is going to be forced to flatten.
Of course the gatekeepers want to keep the idea that they are the only route to the content, however many creators and viewers no longer subscribe to that model. The trend is shorter, lower quality and higher availability - bite sized chunks for the online audience. Free content as a loss leader for other product. Exactly what established publishers *don't* want because it's so hard to monetise (in the way that they are accustomed).
The economy of scarcity only works when there *is* scarcity - it doesn't matter if it is ethical or legal if it doesn't work. That's the biggest challenge faced by publishers - their economic selling model is broken by perfect digital copies. Call it stealing as much as you like - call it "helping the terrorists" if you like - none of those semantic gestures will stop it or fix the underlying economics.
I concur with your sentiment that the real world is the one that matters. As has been demonstrated time and time again, prohibition of desirable (to the persons doing them) activities, regardless of the harshness of the penalties, does not work. I believe that accepting the underlying behaviour is far more effective than attempting to suppress it - that approach doesn't lead to a magic solution, merely to a more manageable situation. I'm a realist, criminalising the things that people want to do doesn't work.
I appreciate that my viewpoint is one that is not popular, but advocating change (especially the radical kind) is never going to be popular. My argument is simple: the current system doesn't work in light of piracy and we are better served by accepting that fact and trying new methods rather than hoping we can put the genie back in the bottle. If you look at iTunes and Steam, they are both highly successful marketplaces for *highly* pirated goods - it *is* possible to make a buck in a high piracy environment, but you won't do it by using the old methods. Both Apple and Valve stepped up their game and were rewarded for it - that is the kind of thinking we need more of. Innovate or die. - yocouchdigga, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1consider me Miles Davis.
- dsmx, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Whenever you have a choice on who provides what you want as long as your well informed you will always go with the service or product that is the best.
- Jaime2000, on 07/11/2009, -0/+1Agreed. If piracy will be the end of anything, it will be the end of commercial content produced to make investors rich; it will NOT be the end of content, period. Books and music were made before copyright law made them profitable, and those and newer forms of content will still be made even after the last corporate whore has left the game.
- cfuse, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2Statements like hers are symptomatic of politicians that have failed to grasp the shift in the basic paradigm of supply and demand of content. They're already too late to keep people on the reservation - they just don't realise it yet.
- amanilaenvelope, on 07/11/2009, -1/+2She can leech me all she wants.
- fleecejohnson, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1It IS sexy. At least, the stuff I pirate is.
- Frostek, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1I doubt the validity of your opinion. They do grasp the shift in the paradigm, which is not exactly new.
Given the anonymity of the internet and access to free resources, many people will choose to take those resources without paying for them.
Whilst it's easy to claim the resources are infinite, using the shallow "copying isn't stealing, because you still have the original" argument, this isn't really the effective case in the real world at all.
The real world is the only one that matters, you see. - MrTea, on 07/11/2009, -1/+1Hey baby, wanna see my big hard drive?
- Frostek, on 07/11/2009, -2/+1Wow! You had everything in there except "You're not the boss of me".
You'll understand more about the world when you get older, believe me. - insinuate, on 07/11/2009, -2/+1thanks for contributing ***** to a self proclaimed ***** pile. YOU SO AWESOME
- Shipyaad, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0woosh
- stubear, on 07/11/2009, -2/+1That's all fine and well, but who do you suggest finds the development of film, theater, art, music etc? The torrent sites don't have ti fund the making of the films and TV shows they rip-off, so it's MUCH easier for them to distribute the work at no cost.
- Frostek, on 07/11/2009, -2/+1It's not really "business" when you're taking something without paying for it.
- Countess666, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0or you just download porn and get instant sexy.
- BooLag, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0USENET
- triassic911, on 07/11/2009, -1/+0Now that's sexy.
- BooLag, on 07/11/2009, -2/+0Paying anything for a CD when you can get the entire discography for free, already cataloged, in about half an hour...
You guessed it, NOT sexy. - twiztidsinz, on 07/11/2009, -3/+1slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp
- Crisender111, on 07/10/2009, -5/+2*Feeling HOT HOT HOT*
- ne0codex, on 07/11/2009, -7/+3these comments suck...
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -18/+3***** THE PIRATE BAY. LOVE THE RIAA!
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