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EFF Supports TorrentSpy in Electronic Privacy Case

torrentfreak.com — After it was ruled that a hacker who obtained unauthorized emails from TorrentSpy on behalf of the MPAA did not technically intercept them under the WireTap Act, the EFF has filed a friend-of-the-court brief. EFF describes the recent decision as a “dangerous attempt to circumvent privacy laws,” and wants to see it overturned.

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  • jeremyduffy, on 08/06/2008, -0/+36The EFF is awesome. They are always fighting battles other people don't know or care about, but need to.
  • hexydes, on 08/07/2008, -0/+26EFF the MPAA
  • iJessicaRabbit, on 08/06/2008, -1/+17Thank you EFF :)
  • DifferentAngle, on 08/07/2008, -0/+12Support the EFF since they support you:
    https://secure.eff.org/site/Donation?ACTION=SHOW_D ...
  • Matri, on 08/07/2008, -0/+11Here, have a 100% legit Sony rootkit CD.
  • CalcProgrammer1, on 08/07/2008, -0/+5And here, buy a bunch of music from our online store, but next week when we randomly shut down without warning, don't complain when your DRM can't connect to our servers and your music won't play.
  • flickboy, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4In before someone obtains unauthorized emails from MediaSentry.
  • twiztidsinz, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4"But still, creators should get paid for their intellectual property, no?"

    YES! They should!
    I don't think anyone will disagree with that statement... however... when you have a cartel that leeches their artists dry (RIAA, MPAA), says screw the customer and screw the artist and screw the customer some more.. well, there just comes a time where you have to put your foot down and say "***** You".

    Trent Reznor has the right idea.
    Stop fighting piracy. It's been around longer than you could hope to ever be remembered and will be around much longer than that. Instead, embrace the technology, accept the losses, minimize the loss without screwing the customer (like DRM did) and get back to the 'roots' of music: the fans.
    If it weren't for the fans, these artists would be nowhere.
    I'd rather give an artist $10 directly than spend $10 on an album in a store.. where the store takes a cut, the distributor takes a cut, the RIAA takes a cut and if anything is left goes to the artist.
    Hell, if it's a good album I wouldn't mind giving them more.
  • PullingTeeth, on 08/07/2008, -1/+5Mr. Anderson should not be trusted. If Torrent Spy continue to employ him, they're only asking for more trouble.
  • inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2No.
  • twiztidsinz, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Agreed.
    This guy has shown that he's only in it for himself and has no qualms with turning his back on you (and on the person whom he turned to when he turned his back to you) at the drop of a hat.
    So whats gonna happen if the ***** hits the fan? You think he'd stick with you?
  • twiztidsinz, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1"Also: is it necessarily bad if you're just downloading the exact copy of windows XP (example) that you legally own a license to but lost or broke the CD?"

    When you buy a Microsoft Windows OS, unless I am mistaken, the price you're paying is for the license, not the CD.
    So as long as you have a valid license for Windows, you could get away with downloading the -SAME- version without stealing/pirating it. Especially when you consider that they allow for slipstreaming installation CDs with the newest servicepacks.

    I believe, officially, if your CD is broken/scratched/non-functioning you can contact Microsoft and get an address where you can mail your original CD with a check/money order for a few bucks ($10 I think?) and they will send you a new one.
    I think the same can be done (CD+Check) to "upgrade" to a CD with the newest service pack (i.e. XP Original to SP3 or SP2 to SP3), though I could be mistaken.
  • mecharabbit, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1We need to establish a coalition of artists and listeners, where we leave the record companies out of the picture. In this modern world, why the ***** should there even be anything such as a record industry? Freelance producers - publish your music online, let the many streams of music content providers sort the wheat from the chaff, and let us pick what we like and pay 99 cents or whatever for the songs we like!
  • mecharabbit, on 08/07/2008, -2/+3Wow, I hadn't heard about that. I just looked it up on Wikipedia. That sucks. But still, creators should get paid for their intellectual property, no?
  • Rolcol, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1Well, someone originally had to pay for it to get it to share. Unless it's bad quality because you split the audio from the flash video on youtube.
  • NOD32user, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0IMHO (and with only the benefit of the linked article) the District Court’s decision was not that there was no offence committed, only that the Wiretap Act did not apply to the particular circumstances of the case.
    The Court did not say it is OK to take the steps necessary to copy and forward all of the site’s email, just simply that the messages were not 'intercepted' within the meaning of the act.

    Go try log into somebodies server without authorization to put a mail forwarder in place without telling them (and whether or not you use valid credentials) and see how many offences you commit in the process, how many civil and criminal matters you get bitten with.
  • Rolcol, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1Damn... Time ran out before I could finish editing.

    Also: is it necessarily bad if you're just downloading the exact copy of windows XP (example) that you legally own a license to but lost or broke the CD?
  • kirado4, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0so it's cool for the RIAA to steal my emails and use them.. even tho that infringes copyright and privacy laws??
  • pigfister, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways.

    Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.

    The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.

    The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.

    The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!

    The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
  • graemee, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Glad someone saw the wide implication of the Judge's ruling.
  • hexydes, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Or even better, just make the music free to download. Musicians should be making money off of performing their music, not spending a few weeks part-time recording an album. Everyone else has to work a full-time job, and so should they.

    That's the problem, the record industry has the idea that we should be paying for a recorded performance so deeply ingrained in our collective consciousness that we think that is how artists should be making money, but it is not. Recorded music should be simply recorded, pushed out to make the band popular, and then simply absorbed into our collective culture. If the band wants to make money, let them tour for six months a year and play 4-5 nights a week.
  • mecharabbit, on 08/07/2008, -18/+1Just stop pirating. Pay for content. Problem solved.

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