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- s6t9eve, on 10/12/2007, -9/+69Moral of the story: Leech.
- useful, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58"Prosecutors claim that he boasted in a published report that he ran all of DoD's daily operations and controlled access to more than 20 of the top pirate "warez" servers."
Don't talk about Fight Club. - acetv, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58Moral of the story: don't be the head of a piracy group if you live in a country whose government cares about this stuff.
- accelleron, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5510 years and $500k for breaking a code. The MPAA and RIAA are creaming their pants right now.
For the nth time today, I am ashamed to be an American. - masterofjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36That's going to be embarrassing when those inevitable "What did you do?" prison conversations start.
"I'm in for life after I killed a drug dealer."
"I'm in for 5 for grand theft auto, and larceny."
"Uh....I'm in because I distributed the Spiderman DVDs over the internet." - magixx2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Tax dollars at work.
- Slash23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Good job US locating the head of DoD ...
... now find Osama! Make yourselves useful. - digiraver, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24I find this comment rather interesting...
'Prior to his arrest and extradition, DrinkOrDie was estimated to have illegally copied and distributed more than $50 million worth of pirated software, movies, games, and music. Of course, the $50 million figure is the total retail value of all the software distributed by the group, much of which is downloaded by teenagers who would never have the income or inclination to purchase said software legally. Therefore it is difficult to argue that this represents $50 million in lost revenue to the software industry.'
...particularly the part about 'teenagers who would never have the income or inclination to purchase said software'. Being a part of this underground scene myself for 2 decades now I sincerly hope this fact is taken into consideration in the courts.
And in closing...we wouldn't have wonderfull things like iTunes if it weren't for groups like DoD and Razor1911...how ya like them apples?!? ;) - AngelBunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18in the most recent bust (the one in 06, or was it 05? geez time flys by) the FBI went to other countries, took them to our country, and tried them like a USA citizen. It doesn't matter what country you are in. As long as your country bows down to USA then it is game over.
- Scyth3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1710 years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison?!
Wow... - macfanboi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Yet Osama Bin Ladin is still missing. Lets hope he gets into the Warez biz.
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15They always will be, just because they take down the leader doesn't mean it'll fold.
- AngelBunny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18@quomen
axxo isn't an affil group
axxo just takes other groups work, renames it to their own, then lets people download it. axxo is one of the ultimate main reasons why Bandito is in court right now. if people like axxo didn't exist then the FBI wouldn't be after affils like they are now (even if there have only been 2 main busts in all, it is still more busts then there should be) - Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17@Jammer You forgot the /sarcasm.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I agree that the punishment doesn't fit the crime... but to the best of my knowledge the RIAA and MPAA aren't doing so well in court so they aren't going to get all excited over the software industries victory.
- GrendelT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Wow, I remember DoD back in the BBS days, didn't know they were still around.
- deweyhewson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The obligatory Daily Show clip:
http://www.broadcaster.com/clip/3456
(Couldn't find it on YouTube, sorry) - Wandel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9dbr_onix, you're no fun.
- AngelBunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@dbr_onix
they get sent to a max security federal prison. The person isn't even allowed to use a phone. On other other hand, no room mates, and you get a very nice cozy area with a couch and a TV and it is clean and and ... - mlfoley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Thank God this true threat to America was captured.
- xkidace, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Glad my tax dollars are at work. Instead of searching for mass murders' gang leaders, crack and meth dealers, we are on the hunt for the 140lb kid who was probably bullied in school. Why did I file this years tax return?
- mister711, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The RIAA and the MPAA were always looking for "pirates" and they found their scapegoat. I feel bad for him, but hopefully this is the high point of the modern witchhunt and we get back to normal exchange of goods and services for the real market price.
- alpha94, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6DoD, PWA, Razor1911, RiSC, RTS, HTC, Legacy, CORP, Demolition, and many more. All great groups for their time and if you were a part of it all in the 90's, was a great time. These weren't small operations and it was easy to get caught up in it all.
- AngelBunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The MPAA and RIAA have nothing to do with this. Also, my guess is the max time in prison he will get is 2 years and $50,000 fine. In the past anyone on trial for things like this get off with mininal fines.
- JaaX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Ahh... I still remember setting up a PowerBoard BBS using ascii/ansi art from ACiD and iCE those were the good ol days.
- AngelBunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5that argument is completely flawed, but saying that it isn't $50 million because he never wanted those files distributed to begin with is a valid argument.
it is like someone finding a way to do something illegal, doesn't do it, but posts it to a private select group of people, but then one of those people decide to post this information on a web page and everyone all over the net finds this, and does this. just because tons of people do this illegal thing, does it make it the original persons fault for finding out this info?
they should charge him for the programs he didn't pay for he was using on his computer, not the other programs people used off of his cracking when he did a lot to try to keep it out of the public hands. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can't mention Razor1911 without mentioning Paradigm, CLASS, and Lightforce. Oh how I miss ye olde days.
All these fools getting busted through bittorrent all the time... we still have FTP, baby! - Cerialthriller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5ah, 54 minutes per floppy on my 14400 bps modem.. those were the days :) Oh and IRC Bots, more fun and exciting then torrents, but sitting in bot queue only to be disconnected from Prodigy sucked, lol.
- djsku82, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That was awesome! Especially the end where JS says "Sorry boys but you're going to have to wait until Thursday"
Good Stuff. - Travelsonic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5fuzz, I personally consider that counter-argument hardly an argument without it's flaws since you compare the theft of physical goods and products, and sharing of copyrighted works without permission from the holder, two acts that are legally characterized and peanilized very differently, and logically hold differences.
- RoshanK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@angelbunny. Im pretty sure that axxo is just another person and not a group. And apparently he rips his own DVDs
http://torrentfreak.com/interview-axxo-the-most-popular-dvd-ripper-on-bittorrent/ - RoflMyWaffle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't get these people... when it's one person upping one thing, when everyone does this, the community is good, we don't need groups upping everything. So why would he risk going to jail for up to 10 years if hes not gonna make any money off it? imo, I'd rather rob a bank at gun point... much more self-satisfaction
- endofbroadcast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My god this whole thing is just silly, and serves as a reminder why I left the warez scene behind a long time ago. The scene never made sense to begin with, was replete with ***** that would narc on each other given 5 minutes and a stern look by a federal officer, and just plain ate up more time than it was worth. The MP3 scene was just as bad, but with more ebonics from white kids. What I do sometimes miss, though, was the ANSI/ASCII scene. Used to be #ansi on efnet was a blast.
What could the warez scene do now to survive intact? Howabout go back to dial-up? That'd confuse the hell out of the Feds, since I think they all trashed their copies of Terminate in '94.
ack/ex-acid/ex-xc/ex-ice/ex-rns - lakai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Damn since all you old schoolers are sporting your old tags I might as well too
THG/FBC/RiSC/UC/TRSi/NeXuS/PwA/DoD/TDT
man I miss those days. Anyone else in the scene back then feel that CD-ROMS killed the BBS scene?
p.s. Anyone here that ran a PC-Board BBS hate the software? besides the fact that you could have so many nodes. The mods werent even all that great. Only reason really was for fidonet. My personal favorite was Oblivion /2 - jdwetherspoon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1tough *****. this ***** took work that cost millions, and didnt belong to him, and probably trashed the bottom line of god knows how many companies, all of which employ hundreds of people. I hope he has a real abd time in jail, the ***** knew it was wrong, ***** him.
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4There was a good reply to such a comment on Digg a while ago, on a "Bittorrent vs Usenet", or "Why do torrent sites spread multi-part RAR files" post (Which I can't find just now) - Which basically said, people imprisoned for copyright violation don't get sent to the same kind of place as you see on TV/in films, the ones filled with drug dealers, murders, rapists and other such people..
- fixinah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TDU-JAM!
- Tenoq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ angelbunny - so North Korea it is then? ;)
Shame their citizens are lucky to have enough food, let alone Internet. :p - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually he denied it for 3+ years first.
- maddog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would pardon him...
- alpha94, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For all you guys wondering about the old scene, this is a trip down memory lane.
www.defacto2.net - d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The study shows that 57 percent of all respondents said that they have never downloaded media from the Internet without paying for it, up from 40 percent in 2004."
I don't get it from the internet. My friends put all of it on a local network server. Duh. - chadtatro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ohhh DoD.. they've been around since the old dialup bbs days!
- gandhii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2the demo scene is still cool... although still very underground..
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"..but sitting in bot queue only to be disconnected from Prodigy sucked" ...
bahaha.. I had Prodigy as well, used to have a auto-resume program called "GetRight" that I used solely for its auto-reconnect function. - endofbroadcast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I recently raided http://www.sixteencolors.net/ and found all my old artwork and stuff done for my old boards. It brought back some interesting times. Hah
- scarwars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 f a i r l i g h t
when dreams come true
1987 / 2007 - SniperSlap, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Americans are stupid.
- Travelsonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I find it hard to see what you are getting at. Please, clarify your previous post.
- edgareinstein, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@fuzzmeister
so what would be an appropriate sentence for this guy?
http://homepage.mac.com/colinbaxter/ipod/ipodclick.html -
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