What is Digg?117 Comments
- cfizzo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+114you just said that on http://digg.com/security/455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2_AACS_Processing_Key
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/11/2007, -17/+11545 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+95Watch a million users get banned for digging this without reading it...
- spookyttws, on 10/11/2007, -4/+72I, personally, like to slowly rise my riot gear above the horizon.
- stable, on 10/11/2007, -10/+66As usual I'm going to point out what's wrong about your comment without pressing the thumbs down button (that I'll leave for the average digg user).
> Dear kiddies, nobody cares.
Apparently a lot of people do.
> Most people don't have a hi-def set.
When the average laptop does 1680x1050 you have to reconsider your remark.
> Most people that have a hi-def set don't have a HD-DVD burner.
Nor do they need one. Modern video compression codecs allow you to compress video at least to 20% of their original size without any noticeable loss of quality.
> The people that have an HD-DVD burner would be better off buying the movie because the blank disks cost more.
Not when they can compress and store the same movie on a DVD5.
> So now what? Oh you still want to "decrypt" the movie anyways? Well thats nice, NOW what are you going to do with it?
What do most leechers do with the content they download from the Internet?
> Now you have to go buy several tools or encoders to cross encode the software to H.264 (apple) or WMV-HD (PC).
Or save your money and encode to xvid instead.
> How long do you think it will take to transmit 20 gig of movie over your skinny internet pipe? Plan on not surfing the web for several days...
Hopefully nowadays there's bittorrent and several other p2p protocols that make distribution much easier, and remember, it's 5GB, not 20.
> Planning on stashing an entire collection on your hard drive? Be prepared to buy some serious storage. At 20 gigs a pop, how many movies do you think you can hold?
Just use standard DVD5s and you should be fine.
> Again, who really cares?
Again, and apparently, a lot of people do.
> Its not an issue of me siding with the "suits" its an issue of "what does this really get you?"
The pleasure of publicly humiliating an *AA. - michael1406, on 10/11/2007, -6/+62You might want to don your riot gear instead of dawning it. Just a thought.
- op12, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44The real problem here is there's no way to differentiate between digg admin censorship, automated systems that might be in place to prevent people from gaming digg (i.e. catching a story that's getting dugg too quickly), and people who are just burying stories because they're fed up of seeing them.
Without a way of knowing which of the 3 it is, people will continue to speculate as to why stories disappear. There needs to be some more transparency into what's going on. - hikaruzero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42"Yeah it won't make it to the front page either."
The front page disagrees. - Splizxer, on 10/11/2007, -3/+38Sucks for all those retards that bought the old AACS key t-shirts and *****.
- Seth024, on 10/11/2007, -7/+40Yay, another number to spread all over the internet.
- zioxide, on 10/11/2007, -10/+41"The point is that digg censors and no one else does."
IT'S A PRIVATE ***** COMPANY. THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE ***** THEY WANT.
If you don't like it, go start your own ***** digg. - kraemer007, on 10/11/2007, -4/+32Dear stable,
when you compress a 20 gigabyte hi-def movie down to 5 gigs, its not a hi-def movie any more. VC-1 and H.264 are incredibly efficient already. Throwing away 75% of the bits is NOT exactly what I'd call a hi definition experience. Just because it WAS hi-def before it got castrated... - po43292, on 10/11/2007, -4/+30now somebody has to come up with a new song
- kilikogo, on 10/11/2007, -8/+29The story on digg censoring things just got censored!
- logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -4/+24duplicate was destoyed by admins
- championchap, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17*****, here comes line 2 of my tattoo!
- kraemer007, on 10/11/2007, -39/+54Dear kiddies, nobody cares.
Nobody cares because,
Most people don't have a hi-def set.
Most people that have a hi-def set don't have a HD-DVD burner.
The people that have an HD-DVD burner would be better off buying the movie because the blank disks cost more.
So now what? Oh you still want to "decrypt" the movie anyways? Well thats nice, NOW what are you going to do with it?
Now you have to go buy several tools or encoders to cross encode the software to H.264 (apple) or WMV-HD (PC). Thats a couple hundred bucks worth of software and 100's of man hours of learning curve right there. Then what? You want to give it to your buddies or what?
How long do you think it will take to transmit 20 gig of movie over your skinny internet pipe? Plan on not surfing the web for several days...
Planning on stashing an entire collection on your hard drive? Be prepared to buy some serious storage. At 20 gigs a pop, how many movies do you think you can hold?
Again, who really cares?
Its not an issue of me siding with the "suits" its an issue of "what does this really get you?" - sirber, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21Doom9 has nothing to do with that...
"The new Processing Key was posted by BtCB on freedom to tinker"
buried as innacurate - bacchus101, on 10/11/2007, -17/+31I doubt this link will last very long. The digg censors are back out in full force...
/dawns riot gear - ArmchairAthlete, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Wonderful, now I get to see people beat a dead horse for a week pointlessly posting a number everywhere that's in no danger of being forgotten.
- Shizlak, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Digg 101: Buried stories will say that they have been buried. They will have a red exclamation point at the top of the page, and the reason it was buried.
Here is a censored story:
http://digg.com/security/455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2_AACS_Processing_Key
Try to make it your #1 story.
Try to find it with the search feature.
You can't do either of those because it has been censored. Hiding instead of deleting is still censorship. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15This will be censored faster than a story submitted from Foxnews.
- cougar618, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12in before 4000+ diggs.
- Yarnage, on 10/11/2007, -8/+15http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_Has_Begun_Removing_the_new_AACS_Key_Didn_t_they_learn_their_lesson
- MarkByers, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7> I'm personally burying these stories because I don't want them to start messing up my digg experience. The last time, all you yahoos started posting the damn number in every stupid comment. I DON'T CARE about the number.
The Law of Unintended Consequences states that if you try to stop people from finding out information, even more people will find out about it than if you did nothing at all.
By burying the story you are (unintentionally) making it more likely that there will be a backlash to perceived censorship and the front page will be filled with stories about this again. If you really don't want to hear about it, just ignore it and move on. Give it the 5 minutes of fame it deserves, and then it will go away by itself. - Pootle4rthur, on 10/11/2007, -13/+19what is the point of risking ruining digg to publicise a number that anyone who is interested knows about anyway.
If you're the sort of geek who can use the information you know where to look, and the rest of us just risk destroying something we use regularly and care about.
It just seems pointless, are big companies with big lawyers worth not winding up over a number most can't use for anything? - cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6@ kraemer007
Besides using it for their high def videos, apple has NOTHING to do with H.264. And you can encode video for free with many tools using x264 (open source implementation). I don't know if I've ever seen so much ignorance in a single comment. - superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Why is it possible for a number that "everyone knows about anyway" to ruin Digg?
Seems like that is the problem, not people's desire to spread the number. - clearzen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@kraemer007 (#6940719)
I can play them on my linux machine now. - thanakar, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Wrong actually, the story IS still there:
http://digg.com/security/455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2_AACS_Processing_Key#c6938160
The only thing missing is the link. - sgtpinback, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I don’t even see the code anymore. All I see now is blonde, brunette, redhead.
- trogdoor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@kraemer007
Or I might just want to *play* it on the only High Definition screen I have, which is the screen on my Linux laptop.
( and BTW, there is no need for "hundreds of dollars" to transcode it to something else, mencoder can transcode too and from H.264, WMP, and pretty much any other format you can think of and is completely Free ) - sleepykit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6*ducks and covers* Not this again. I like Digg, except for the occasional "here's a useless key without proper software but I will rub your noses in it" story.
- powerofslack, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Most importantly: where can we get the new t-shirts. Man I'm gonna have a lot of shirts with hex codes on 'em.
- Logicwax, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4@kraemer007 and @stable:
You guys missed the best advantage of all this High-def cracking.......
being able to play a high-def movie on whatever the hell I want. If I buy a movie I don't want to be forced to use HDCP compliant hardware and software. I want to decrypt it to a file that I can play on any of my systems, playable in lots of players, on any projector, monitor, laptop, ipod, even my freakin blackberry if I was so inclined to do so (yeah I know that would be ridiculous). Getting a compliant video card, cables, monitor, player, and OS? oh yeah, and have my computer spend almost half its cpu cycles worrying about vista's "tilt" bits making sure I'm a good little boy. I won't even go into the hell having to do with set-top boxes and scaled-down content / disabled outputs.
There is also the fact that physical media these days...just seems so dated. I ripped all my DVD movies into xvid/isos and stuck them on a hard drive in my living room. And I plan on doing the same deal with HD movies that I buy (except I prob won't use xvid, and the comment about compressing to 5gigs is inaccurate). why should I worry about scratched discs and where the hell my movies are at when hard drives are cheap! This is what media centers should do.
Copy-protection isn't even half of it with the HD format DRM wars. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11Here we go again! Let's see if Kevin puts his money where his big mouth is.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Here we start it all again.... again.
- aburd, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8If you remember, the stories that were being censored in the last controversy disappeared. You can still access those stories that you all are claiming to be "censored". So I think they are just getting buried.
But please feel free to put on your victim hats if it makes you feel good. - dizzledaking, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@Farwando (#6944835)
Dammit I hate people's versions of that stupid Mastercard ad. - OsiVert, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@kraemer007:
There are a couple of reasons that this is going on. One, just like cd's and dvd's, the prices will fall within the next couple of years, so backing up movies will become a cheap reality. Remember a few years ago when a spindle of R+DVD's cost over $100?
People will also use this to create open source players like the ones we see today. They will then be able to integrate this with media center boxes, along with any distros of linux. - randydid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Damn now I need to get that tattoo removed...
- kraemer007, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@ Topher06
Go smoke another blunt young man. If you were really going to use the key to make a Divx, you wouldn't be coming to Digg to look for it. - PhonicUK, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Pi is of infinite length, and due to the nature of Pi, eventually every single possible numberical combination exists *eventually* in Pi
Therefore Pi is proof of prior art of everything that can be represented by a number. - kilikogo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8@zioxide
Digg claims to be democratic.Censoring isn't democratic. Digg is run by it's users, so we can do whatever the ***** we want, not the other way around, assuming digg wants to keep the majority of it's user base. - miles32, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well after reading the linked forums I'm kinda interested in looking into this more. If i hadnt seeen it on digg i probably would never have gotten interested
- jester55, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1if its gonna happen, its gonna happen. i dont see the big deal. its was doomed to be cracked from the beginning, as is everything.
- combustion8, on 10/11/2007, -10/+11lets get this baby rolling.
- appleswitch, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"How long do you think it will take to transmit 20 gig of movie over your skinny internet pipe? Plan on not surfing the web for several days..."
Tell that to the 170GB of HD content I watch on my 1920x1200 ( 1080p + bars ) Apple Cinima, just beautifull. - evilpettingzoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nothing to see here move on.
- catalytica, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Buried for spamming Digg with stupid stories.
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