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- turbopro, on 10/30/2007, -0/+8I always wondered about this. So technically, if I print out a power of attorney from this site and get it notarized, it's legal? If so thats BADASS
- bamafun, on 10/30/2007, -0/+7Who do you think will buy this site? Microsoft or Fedex/Kinkos?
- will_hall, on 10/31/2007, -0/+6"As a lawyer...".
Personally, I would rather get my legal documents from a website than from a lawyer with the handle "OMGIAMTHEMAN". - jwietelmann, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5As a professional developer of both PHP (last job) and .NET (current job), I find this whole security argument absurd. The ASP/VB/C# .NET languages are no more secure than the PHP language. The problem is that essentially you're comparing .NET the FRAMEWORK to PHP the LANGUAGE. It's not a fair comparison. I can write stupidly insecure, SQL-injection-vulnerable code just as easily in C# as I can in PHP. If I properly use .NET Framework components in C#, my chances for failure are greatly diminished. Likewise, if I properly use Zend Framework or CakePHP components in PHP, I can easily create a site that is just as secure. There is nothing about any of these languages themselves (in their modern incarnations) that is intrinsically insecure. It's all about how you implement your application and the tools you take advantage of.
- Blogfeeder, on 10/30/2007, -1/+6I already uploaded a bunch of stuff...looks like a useful site. Definitely getting bookmarked.
- Googlelady, on 10/30/2007, -1/+6At least docstoc opened, let's see how it will be doing for the first month
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5Thanks. I feel like this site is going to make it big!
- Stryder81, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3I looked at this site briefly and searched some that I would need down the line and this site already to me kicks f-in ass. Alot of people are going to save a ton of money on these forms/contracts etc.
- allanak, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3Google doesn't need Kinkos - They already gave Google Paper, remember?
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/paper/ - monaleilani, on 10/30/2007, -1/+4They had me at IPod Touch.
- Stryder81, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2lol it's a good thing for the " Search " feature.
- pengas, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2I'll give u both 2 to 1 on your bets.
- Coffeedemon, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2Its already filling up with crap. Folks whoring their portfolios and top 100s of Chuck Noris facts.
- Bawk, on 10/30/2007, -1/+3Google
- baron, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2I just found www.doctropolis.com which looks similar to this idea, except allows you to charge for the documents you created. Haven't tried it out yet, just signed up.
- manicallday, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2It depends. However, I don't think this is not a good way to go about obtaing legal documents. Each jurisdiction has different statues that have to be obliged. For the most part, documents are required to override an existing statue which will act as a default if the document fails to address that issue.The problem with POAs is that the default rule, because of public policy issues, usually results in the document being void. The best thing you can do is to look up the applicable statue for your jurisdiction on Find law and copy the language and structure exactly how it's formatted in the statue. This way your there's no question about the document whatsoever.
- Stryder81, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2lol Will hall, In all fairness:
He is right, Of course you should study the contracts/forms you are handing out or filing. If you don't then you deserve to get a kick in the ass for not doing your homework.
If you study what you are giving to someone else as business? Then you should be a-ok
Once again, This site kick f-in ass :D
- Be Smart, Don't be a retard...Stay In school >:p - bartx, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2Ive already downloaded a few pdfs. Excellent digg!
- OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2this is a great idea but also very dangerous. As a lawyer, I do not recommending expecting your "canned" contracts, wills, and other important legal documents to withstand legal scrutiny when they most need to. Something that's not so important, no problem, but if someone tries to screw you, you better have good documents that will prove your point in court
- joshuaer, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2search the source code for php and you will see that is shows up allot!!
- bamafun, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Put me in for $10 - I say 6 months!
- turbopro, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2who will in turn buy Fedex/kinkos
- dgulbran, on 11/05/2007, -0/+1I am not a lawyer... I'm a law student (less than a year to go, whoo hoo!) and I think sites like this are great.
First, they provide a resource so people can see what some of these documents look like *before* they go to a lawyer. The more you know about what you need your document to accomplish, the less you're going to spend on explaining it to a lawyer...
Second, there are some lawyers--I know, not many--who actually don't gouge clients. I've had cases in the past where I've drafted a contract, and then just paid a lawyer a reasonable fee to tweak it and ensure it complied with the law in a specific jurisdiction. It can save a ton of money, versus having something custom drafted from scratch.
That said, of course if you just download docs from the site and "fill in the blanks" you are an idiot. As others have mentioned, some provisions might be void in some jurisdictions... or case law might have changed the way a provision is interpreted by the courts, etc. Worse yet, some document (wills are a very good example) sometimes have really arcane procedural requirements that *must* be followed when they are executed, or they are subject to all kinds of challenges in court. The last thing you want is a DIY legal document downloaded from a website to come back and bite yer butt. So yeah--lawyers do still have value, even with sites like this.
That said, knowledge is good. I think having access to these documents can help people learn more for themselves, and in my mind, that's not a bad thing. If anything, it lets lawyers provide a higher level of service, for less money overall, and everyone wins. - ranaweeram, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Congratulations Jason.
- pengas, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1The only reason to use Safari is if your on your iPhone.
- Xtracti0n, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Considering that in .NET 3.0/3.5 you will be able to use php, I dont see it as a problem. Im simple looking at the standard of the pages. I love seeing a nicely fitted Web 2.0 site, cleanly done using ASP.NET. Its just rare. Plus most Open Source programmers think its 'impossible' to get the look and feel of 2.0 without using PHP and/or ruby. Its just silly to think that way. And yes as much as I dont like standalone php, I do feel it has some unique features that could mesh nicely within a SECURE environment such as .NET.
- Xtracti0n, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0touche
- OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0hahah, you got me, but would you rather your lawyer's handle be "OMGILOSEANDCRY"?
- Tazmaster, on 10/30/2007, -4/+3Power of attorney does not make you a lawyer. The way you state your comment makes me wonder if this is what you were thinking.
- Xtracti0n, on 10/31/2007, -6/+4mmmmmm....Web 2.0 without the crap pool known as PHP. Sport the ASPX! woot woot
- joshuaer, on 10/30/2007, -3/+1any one else loosing there cursor when they roll over the menu in some spots with the Safari web browser.
- Markpdotcom, on 10/30/2007, -8/+2Buried for shout spam.
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