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- derrickgossman, on 11/04/2007, -4/+35I just love visiting digg to read about digg, and how awesome digg is.
- DannyAndNina, on 11/01/2007, -1/+18If you think about the contrast between this sort of "open" mentality and the "closed" mentality of traditional media industries (esp. music + film) it's easy to see who will be more successful in the years ahead.... Kudos to Digg for embracing openness and not being frightened by competition.
- verge, on 11/01/2007, -0/+13Interview here http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/oct/31/j ...
- fkr3, on 11/01/2007, -3/+14Digg's not embracing openness. They are very much a closed source company even though they're built on open source platforms.
What they're doing is putting a pretty spin on the fact that they can't stop others from copying them. There's thousands of digg clones out there covering many topics and languages. - fkr3, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6They're not open either. They release a tiny subset of their data through their API.... only slightly more than what most sites use RSS for.
Facilitating the copying is irrelevant, it's already too late for that - the site's already been cloned dozens of times as open source and closed source versions in a variety of languages.
The site is well made and it's not small, but it's not exactly complicated. The only thing they've done that is (at least for now) impossible to reproduce is succeed. - kevin_qnn, on 11/04/2007, -0/+5you can disable political articles in your profile if you don't want to see them. but its weird how it says that in the article, i'm guessing the reporter messed up because jay doesn't mention politics or sports in the interview
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5The article is wrong, there aren't 21 million users. It's unique views a month I think.
- Error601, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Define "copying a model".
- jayadelson, on 11/04/2007, -0/+4Oh, and fwiw, I didn't found Digg, Kevin did. I merely provided the necessary cattle prods.
- sUGArDawg, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5Growing as a nation? It's a friggin' niche website!
- ThatsUnpossible, on 11/04/2007, -1/+5To keep the HD-DVD thing in perspective, remember that Digg was simply trying to avoid being sued for what they felt was a possible infringement.
Also keep in mind the childish antics of the users that kept posting the useless code over and over again. I learned a lot about the digg 'community' that day. - Genady, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Super Ninja Hamsters, didn't you see that story last week?
- jayadelson, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3Well, if you read the interview, you'll see that I didn't say we wouldn't pursue other verticals. What I said was that some we might choose to let someone more focused on a particular topic use our technology to get them there under their own brand. Anyway...
- mcd9236, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3I would like to see niche digg clones possibly as separate sites, but partnered with digg. This way the niche clones could be dugg and the overall most dugg clones would have links from the digg homepage. This would be sort of like how google has the most accessed modules (images, videos, news, maps, etc.) available on the front page. Then you could search through all of the available digg-partnered clones. The first on the top of my head is hugg.com. It could be run completely separate, except be registered with digg to allow for this niche ability. Digg would then get more traffic from people looking for niche sites.
- mediaspree, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3http://www.flickdirect.com digg for movies
- Roger, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4What special technology does digg have behind it?
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3Obviously Digg "CEO" and general tool, Jay, never visited Fark.com. They have been doing this crap for years. I think Jay is starting to believe his own *****.
- Nossie, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2ok so google announcing open source social networking and this isnt related?
I think Digg are doing this because if they dont google will... Digg would rather let their code be used on another network than let someone elses take their own visitors.... Running on over 100 servers I think they feel that Digg would never do the 'apple effect' of getting eaten by its own 'buyers' because Digg itself (like ibm) in name only could keep its high regard and power the rest of the internet.
(my point about apple and IBM. being when they released clone licenses and they undercut into apples profits till they had to retract them or go out of business, IBM nearly lost its business because they didnt open up to the competition, SCO has lost its business because it didnt open up) I think Apple is niche and depended AT THE TIME too much on a few loyal mac fans rather than the industry as a whole. I think thats the main argument for not opening OSX... but I'm sure if Apple thought they could replace Windows by licensing the OS they'd certainly jump at the chance. - geekee, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Could we get a version of Digg that gives responsible, unbiased political news, and leave the bias for the commentary? Oh wait, no, because the truth is not necessarily what Digg voters want it to be, which is why democracy in news is a non-starter.
- sUGArDawg, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1So now stories will take DAYS/WEEKS to make the front page of other news outlets??
- jayadelson, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1It says that we hadn't implemented our Chilling Effects code yet, and that lack of transparency cost us a lot that morning when many Digg users mistook our action as a form of editorial...or "giving into the man."
- jayadelson, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1...but Pligg doesn't have our code/work around promotion and social network/collaborative filtering.
- Roger, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Pligg already exists: http://www.pligg.com/
- cledford, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Genius marketing approach. It's always best for the first movers to stay niche.
- grendelboogie, on 10/31/2007, -1/+221 million unique visitors is what they meant to say.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Sounds good, cuz right now it's shrinking: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details? ...
- jayadelson, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Correct, it was 21.5M unique visitors a month (as of September).
- ArtificialAnus, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I believe the idea is that the people in charge of digg know that by continuing on, they're competing for a bigger slice of the pie, but by opening the product up, they're going to make the pie bigger... In so doing, everyone will profit.
- se7en11, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I much prefer to post how great I am.
- Roger, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1"remember that Digg was simply trying to avoid being sued for what they felt was a possible infringement"
Ah, but digg eventually gave in when users threatened to leave. What does that say about digg? - inactive, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1since most of the people stupid enough to install the alexa toolbar are digg users that are doing so in order to boost digg ratings, in this case, yes, it is a reliable source of information.
- lifewithryan, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Here's one launching soon that focuses on politics:
http://pol.itik.us (politikus) though it doesn't have the digg look and feel it still involves votes and promotion etc.
Also has the status of the site, etc at a blog located at http://blog.itik.us - fkr3, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1I don't think anyone would want digg's code to be honest. The site looks good and the functionality is good, but it takes a ridiculous amount of servers to handle a relatively low volume of traffic.
- PRlME, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1www.designfloat.com
!!!! - Roger, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Spam FTW
- whistlerpro, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1I can has digg code?
- leadingzero, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1"Spam FTW"
lol QFT - mrrbob, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0Digg should produce an open source clone program and make it available to all. This could be installed by anyone to produce their own mini version of digg geared to local news or what ever niche subject the site owner chose.
The key to make this work would be to have these sites built so that all top stories would be auto submitted to the main digg site.
Digg could partner with radio, newspaper and TV station sites also to submit top local news stories. If digg chose this route they would need to offer a regional news option to auto sort your digg Front Page as there would be too many stories to just aggregate them all on one front page.
Lets face it though if digg is ever to reach its full potential it must move toward something like this as now the stories that reach the front page are to narrow in focus to appeal to the average local newspaper reader. Not that I am bashing digg as I do read it now but I don't think my wife even knows it exist and If I were to show it to her she would not be interested in all the tech and gamer stuff. She would say something like how to I get to the local news section.
Back to the local version of digg to solve the above problem. I would also make it a condition of install that digg would have the top banner spot ads to garner revenue from all the local mini digg sites and local eyeballs. You could have ads down the sides to cover revenue for the webmaster/site owner.
Dig would need to organize itself into regional news and industry news sections in order to make it easier for people to just cruse by and find what they wanted. If everyone has to login and go through a customization process you would lose too many potential eyeballs as people want easy easy easy.
This would also allow digg to expand to other countries that are not English language based.
This would make digg into a monster site yes but it would also make digg into something with unlimited potential. Unlimited potential is exactly what digg lacks with it's present format. - jaymie, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0I agree. It should be like a zombie button or something. Unbury! Walk the earth again! Eat flesh!
- GZYN007, on 11/02/2007, -0/+0If they were to provide a platform for other sites, then here are some key features that they will need for viral adoption. http://www.gzyn.com/cmp/contentReadingActions.do?m ...
- SeanNorton, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0I could be wrong, but I thought DIGG was already based on opensource programs, and therefore wouldn't really require much. As it is, wordpress already has a digg theme http://www.peterandrej.com/2007/10/27/the-digg-the ...
- jaymie, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Stories like this... just seem like Digg incest. Digg loves itself. Oh wait, maybe that's masturbation. Diggsturbation?
- vade79, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1I'm not sure what there is to 'copy' by opening up, you can copy digg.com with or without it being 'open'. (ie. netscape.com)
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0The pictures section is supposed to launch in October, yet its still not up? WTF? Also I'd like an option to unbury an item, sometimes I click the wrong link
- patrick24601, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1How do "let" someone copy you? That is like being 95 lbs in prison (or being Kobe Bryant's Date) and figting sex. No matter how much fight it is going to happen. Save your energy. You're gonna get *****.
- Meursault, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Hey, it works for Asian college students.
- Jeffler, on 11/04/2007, -2/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- kcoe, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0www.fantasyfanaticnews.com is another site that is a sports based digg like clone
- anthonylawrence, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Doesnt this come as somewhat of a surprise too people out there? I mean Digg was pretty much sending out cease and desist letters to Digg type sites up till awhile back?
I suppose they realised that people are now naming such sites "Digg-Clones" etc..... hmm.... -
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