What is Digg?1534 Comments
- tbagginzz, on 12/30/2008, -41/+2287We've Put up with this for too long... Digg needs to do something
- mv10, on 12/30/2008, -134/+1933Digg if you dont even notice who submits stories
- Nitroxide, on 12/30/2008, -51/+1636You're
- BoBbOrAzE, on 12/30/2008, -15/+1272Its not just the stealing of stories, its also the lack of our stories even being heard in the first place.
- Gatesophile, on 12/30/2008, -16/+1240Just get rid of the friends/shouts system, and make it so that all stories are anonymous until they hit the front page. Done.
- nymphetamine, on 12/30/2008, -149/+1067Digg this up if you ***** love bacon.
- colonelbuckshot, on 12/30/2008, -64/+848Digg this if you're sick of submitters who can't spell and punctuate.
- dvsbastard, on 12/30/2008, -7/+791Just try to expose them... i.e.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5433/snag00vs6.pn ...
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7645/pavelmahut ... - Jalh, on 12/30/2008, -59/+694i bury MrBabyMan stories.
- evanstapler, on 12/30/2008, -9/+550http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Digg_is_Rigged_Video_pro ...
Digg is no longer the site it once was. Digg has turned into a popularity contest controlled by an exclusive group of users shouting and friending. It's gotten to a ridiculous point and needs attention.
"Want to fix Digg? ***** shouts and add anonymity to submissions: in other words obscure the submitter's name from the reader until after they digg or bury the story." - krahzee
"There is basically no point submitting unless you play the popularity game. It's not aboyut the story, it's about you.
Anonymous submission and deleting the "friends" and "shouts" is the way forward." - bryson430
"You're right. I never submit anything, because it will never be seen." - skeen07
"This is why i hardly ever digg or submit anything" - HotDogBun
"I don't submit anymore because of this *****." - pwallroth
"Kevin rose, we want an explanation." - Blajano
"Digg has become extremely clique-y and based solely around the submissions of a top few "popular" users, with valid and interesting stories submitted by un-popular users getting ignored. This is why Digg is no longer a reliable place as a community-driven news site." - CyberStriker
I could go on, but I think this is enough. To the digg staff: This is a plea. Fix Digg.
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Digg_is_Rigged_Video_pro ... - foolishwolf, on 12/30/2008, -14/+455Watch... as THIS story gets stolen
- radicaldementia, on 12/30/2008, -4/+278This is just like the matrix, it's all happened before. By my count, this is the 3rd anti-power-digger uprising in the 3 years that I've been on this site. Each time, digg makes some changes, some power-users quit, and new ones with different "strategies" take their place.
Obviously all the changes diigg has made before in attempts to solve this problem -- killing the user rankings, dupe detection, shouts *groan* -- have done little to change the situation. While I'm not trying to bash digg, I honestly don't have much faith that we'll see any beneficial changes except "new awesome changes to the algorithm" or "other random new feature nobody wants". - Chooxo, on 12/30/2008, -20/+240I've never understood the obsession with wanting credit for FINDING a story. Not even writing it, but just finding it.
Quite honesty I never look at the username of whoever submitted the story. Just in case you thought a highly dugg article bought you stardom, or something. - FireSlash, on 12/30/2008, -40/+227Watching article submitted average user fail in 3.. 2.. 1...
- Snowierstorm, on 12/30/2008, -10/+183Maybe if this hits the front page the mods of digg will finally listen to the community and do something to stop these power users from dictating what gets seen on digg. People are worried about abet neutrality and censorship of the web. What the power users are doing is a prime example of what everyone wants to prevent.
That said, digg this article up to the front! - kevinrose, on 12/30/2008, -7/+179I am your father
- gbarberi, on 12/30/2008, -20/+191ARGUMENT AGAINST:
Instead of placing limitations on people, why don't we just make diggs anonymous (like Burying currently is). You can't pay for diggs or trade digg for digg if you can't see who's digging what.
People will digg only what they like since the anonymity of digging activity prevents reciprocation of votes. - robdazomba, on 12/30/2008, -3/+158On Flickr, your photo can show up in its daily popularity list (Explore/interestingness) if enough people view and fave it. The algorithm seems to come from the number of views/faves within a given period of time. However, the more Flickr groups you drop your photo into, the less chance it seems to have to show up in the popularity list. And it seems that your contacts viewing the photo don't count quite as much as random viewers. That's a built-in system for stemming the popularity of the poster having an artificial effect on a photo's interest level. Digg need to build a penalty in for stories submitted and dugg primarily by a submitters friends. Maybe a penalty for shouting the story out to loads of other users. How about setting things so users coming to the story and digging it from the upcoming stories pages (i.e., people actually digging it because they stumbled across it and find it interesting) gets weighted to count for more? There's a lot of ways to counteract the inflated popularity of the user.
- kevinrose, on 12/30/2008, -1/+154Thanks all, we are readying the -constructive- suggestions now.
- christm, on 12/30/2008, -13/+157..Mr Baby Man - a prime example
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -3/+145All Digg has to do to fix this is eliminate the "friends" from Digg. Who submitted a story should not matter, a story should rise or fall on its own merits. I seriously doubt that many people are actually friends with anyone on their list, its just a way to game the system.
- boozedrinker, on 12/30/2008, -11/+146I dugg this story as I took a bite of a delicious waffle!
- merdiesel, on 12/30/2008, -3/+129It's just completely taken the fun out of this site.
- tbagginzz, on 12/30/2008, -17/+140oops :P
- oboy, on 12/30/2008, -49/+167The "anecdote" quoted in this petition is from Digg user http://digg.com/users/danielrh9 who says "Back around February or March of this year, I submitted something I thought was pretty cool that had a decent chance of making the front page. I did it on break at work and checked digg when I got home to see how it did. The story made it to the front page allright, but it was a submission made after mine from MrBabyMan that used the same exact story with a slightly different URL."
Looking through his submissions for that period http://digg.com/users/danielrh9/history/submission ... there are NO submissions in common with any FP stories by MrBabyMan. However going back a few submissions from there, danielrh9 DID submit this story http://digg.com/comedy/If_The_Real_World_Was_Like_ ... which was a dupe of this earlier submission http://digg.com/comedy/Internet_Commenter_Business ... . So not only is this anecdote a complete fabrication, but the commenter is a hypocrite. - jec68, on 12/30/2008, -1/+106I know that I don't submit anything simply because I know it has no shot of making front page... just no shot at all.
- uberduger, on 12/30/2008, -3/+102That would be amazing - Kevin should at least try an offshoot of Digg that does that. I personally reckon that it would make for far more varied content, and would lead to Digg being about 1000x more interesting.
- user927, on 12/30/2008, -8/+101Will some one get some power diggers on this article?!?!
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -2/+90I really like seeing my digg history, and letting others see it.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -11/+90where is the list of users who have left due to this issue?
- SillyRabbits, on 12/30/2008, -0/+78Why bother with a petition? Just vote with your eyeballs. I visit the site far less these days than I used to - the quality of stories has decreased dramatically here. With all of the other sites, there's no need to wait around hoping they will change.
- Chompy, on 12/30/2008, -0/+73The real solution: make all submissions anonymous. Remove the "credit" and you remove the problem entirely, and Digg goes back to the way it used to be. Back in the day (2006), I got a few articles on the front page. I did this by.. submitting them. I didn't put out any "shouts" or go out and actively lobby for diggs, I just posted the link and it rose or fell on it's own merits. Back then Digg was just regular nerds posting *****, none of this power user nonsense. These days a regular joe has no chance of hitting the front page. None.
If there's no "credit", then there is no incentive for power users to even be here.. and that would be good news for the rest of us. - billizm, on 12/30/2008, -2/+72Or maybe make it anonymous until it hits front page.
- rabidbob, on 12/30/2008, -3/+73What bothers me are the people who get paid to submit ***** stories from retarded sources (eg. The Daily Fail).
- Jumboto, on 12/30/2008, -4/+69Dude, I signed in just for you....
So yeah, I checked out the "stories" you submitted that are not being heard in the first place.
Pure gold my friend.
http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Craigslist_dating
I like the part where you ask for someone to repost it.
I dug the pic by the way :) - ahpro, on 12/30/2008, -2/+67Looking at pavelmah's profile, he also diggs at a rate of about 6 diggs a minute. That means 10 seconds per article. There should be a limit on how many things you can digg per hour too to prevent people digging things blindly without even reading what they're about. It seems to me that maybe he's digging his friends stuff without even looking at it and they're doing the same to him in return.
- z00k, on 12/30/2008, -36/+101You know this isn't going to change anything at all?
Just making sure. - aufte, on 12/30/2008, -1/+64I don't care either.
- kinseyincanada, on 12/30/2008, -3/+65how about we just giet rid of the shout and friend system i have never added a friend or sent a shout out, i try and submit all the cool stuff i see but i use the firefox digg add-on and i can tell easily if its been submited or not and the vast majority of times it already is so i just digg that one. I dont care who submits sonething as long as its good ill digg iy, but the problem is now a lot of crap that isnt funny or good is making the front page just because its submitted by a power user.
- uberduger, on 12/30/2008, -2/+62I nearly buried because of that. But then I thought of the implications! Getting rid of Digg power-user dupes >> caring about accidental grammar slips.
Fight the power, my brothers, fight on! - stonebit, on 12/30/2008, -3/+62Thank you! Is it really so hard to spell common words and word combinations?!
- DTJunkie07, on 12/30/2008, -2/+57This is it. That way no one would know if it were a Mr. Babyman story or a Gatesophile story.
- tbagginzz, on 12/30/2008, -5/+58Thanks for the comment!
In my opinion there should be more categories to submit stories in (Comics and other material etc.) Also it would increase peoples chances to submit more popular articles - borez, on 12/30/2008, -2/+54I cannot understand when the users of digg have been screaming about this for so long that Digg hasn't responded yet.
Come on Digg, you must be able to see the fact that the same power users are digging each others stories day in day out and gaming the front page. It can't be that hard to impose a Digg limit to stop this. - Satenru, on 12/30/2008, -2/+54Let's go bury pavelmah's stuff and digg the original submiter's up.
- tehmacuser, on 12/30/2008, -11/+61don't be a dick ayeroxor, everyone makes mistakes.
- inactive, on 12/30/2008, -0/+50I have had this happen to me a dozen times, it doesn't seem to matter how fast I am off the mark, my story goes nowhere. But then 2 days later it gets to the front page submitted by someone else?
Bottom line is, I gave up trying to get stories on digg. I still come here to read, make the occasional comment, but other than that I do not participate. - Tbyrd073, on 12/30/2008, -1/+50I was honestly expecting this to have been submitted by MrBabyMan
- Spudster, on 12/30/2008, -4/+52It also homogenizes and lowers the overall quality of content on Digg.
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