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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+201Don't expect a flood of resumes from Digg. At least, not a flood of resumes from people that are even remotely qualified. You should expect a flood of things like,
"lol! i live in canada. i know html and i'm really good at wii sports. wii60 ftw! ps3 sucks!
i also have a macbook and know how to make web pages in iweb. when people need help they call me. cept for winblows. m$ is teh suck!
thanks for your consideration." - vancanucksfan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+157I'm no computer expert but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night
- Tallon29, on 10/12/2007, -2/+125Let me know when Digg wants someone who reads Digg all day.
- suprememilo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+83I'll do it for $5 less than him ^
- grendelboogie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+85I forgot to mention that we're interested in candidates living in the San Francisco Bay Area exclusively.
- Mootabolife, on 10/12/2007, -6/+73That's what she said.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+79Ignore previous offers, I suck dicks.
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+62I can keep the plugs in the sockets....That's about it :(
- goldfenix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+58I have no experience whatsoever, but I am an excellent cook, which is something I feel could be lacking around an office full of geeks.
So I assume I start next monday? - JimmyDushku, on 10/12/2007, -6/+55"I forgot to mention that we're interested in candidates living in the San Francisco Bay Area exclusively."
So I guess Chloe is out of the question. - EvilFerret, on 10/12/2007, -4/+53I'll do it for 1 case of beer a day.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40Will this improve the Digg search?
- RyanChappell, on 10/12/2007, -8/+45At least it doesn't say, "Entry level, two years of (linux administration, C#, etc.) required." Also, it is frustrating having 7 years of IT experience, capable of learning almost anything, and being ruled out of jobs because you don't already have experience they need. If you know hardware or networking, they won't consider you for programming, or if you know windows, they won't let you OJT in a Linux position. There really have been no entry level jobs since the 1999 bust.
- lolwtfhaha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30you're both cute
- terinjokes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31It's really the only reason I don't have a *real* job on the interweb, there's no where to start.
- BrainCore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27you're probably better off posting this on slashdot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33- Proficiency in scripting/programming in any of python, perl, python, C, or C++.
- Must have excellent verbal and written communication skills.
I hope, the excellent written skills, will be used, to write, the next job description, perl, description? - Snoopsor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24There are plenty of places to start, but the key is choosing a select field of expertise. If you just choose the ambiguous IT area, then the best you'll probably get in jobs range from phone support, windows server administration, some networking support. If you choose software engineering, a sub field of IT, then you're far more likely to get a better job.
I've found in my experience with software engineering that if you've got a specialised skill set in one area, people assume you also know about other IT areas as well. Software engineering is just one tier down.. Then you get an even narrower subset - embedded programming, server side, windows, linux, linux kernel programming, etc, etc..
A jack of all trades just doesn't seem to work.
Same for networking..If you're a network engineer, they assume you also know some programming - bash scripting etc, as well as some admin work.
So my advice is get down and dirty with the area you like the most in IT, whether that be programming, networking, linux and windows administration, animation, 3d modeling, etc. Learn it till your eyes bleed. Being an expert in one field is far more valuable than being good at many.
It may very well be frustrating, but companies are taking a big risk to take you on board. Training costs a lot. - willjc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29giggidy
- Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20They dont need to. There is hordes of digg fanboys which instantly digg up any post related to or submitted by kevin rose or other digg staff members...
- nmeadata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16"Solid understanding of Unix systems administration, including filesystem semantics and NFS."
Darn I thought it said NSFW. - jackminardi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16im sure digg did not need to cheat on something with the word "digg" in the title
- elvenseven, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27I can digg Wii and Apple stories. Where do I sign up?
- sparkalex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Breaking: Digg HR personnel have breakdown due to Digg effect
- flair1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16what kind of stock options would i get? I want to be a millionaire when Digg gets bought by Yahoo or Google. ;-)
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Damn outsourcing, I can't compete with rates that low...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12You mean high school students aren't industry professionals? A lot of digg users are going to be crying themselves to sleep tonight.
This should really be submitted at slashdot. It's very easy to get the impression that slashdot users are generally intelligent, educated and experienced. - otomo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19So engineers get to think they are better than a computer science graduate now, huh? How cute.
- jcs_goog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Good, digg needs this. This site is just way too slow and the search function is horrible.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14"Digg is looking for a Senior Systems Engineer"
In digg terms that means someone who can be the Designated Driver. - huckmank, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15So CS/IS grads get to call themselves engineers now, huh? How cute.
- AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17I'm a girl, something every office full of geeks needs. AND I can cook and bake. I just one-upped you.
- EvilFerret, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I'd be happy to be the official Digg beer tester.... It will be my responsibility to make sure all of the beers that are sent in are not poisonous . I will only require frozen pizzas, a stove and a empty drawer to sleep in.
- rm999, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Sorry, I mean no disrespect, but if you can't get a decent job with 7 years of good experience, you are probably doing something wrong. Different positions require different knowledge, but if the company determines some piece of knowledge is important, they don't want their employee sitting around learning it on their dime. It's your task during the interview to prove you won't waste their time and money.
I understand the frustration in not getting "entry" level positions, but keep in mind that those are the crappiest positions out there. They pay less and are often more tedious. I would gladly trade my entry level engineering position for the kind of job that someone with your experience could get. - AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Look, I didn't go to college, actually got a GED due to a transfer error during my senior year (Dad's company transferred him middle of my senior year, and the new school didn't accept my science credits because I took them before junior year, despite the fact that I took college courses, and I didn't want to go to high school for two additional years, so GED), had no actual IT experience on my resume other than a failed company an ex and I tried starting, a 25-year-old girl in a world dominated by guys, basically everything against me. But within three weeks of trying, I landed a damned decent job. For what I lacked in work experience I made up with a kick-ass cover letter in which I mentioned something that the guy filling the position didn't know. A bit of luck. He called to find out more. I compensated for no work experience my telling him everything he could possibly want to know, and a few things HE didn't, despite his degrees. That led to the interviews in person and I again showed what I knew and my passion for what I wanted to do. Long story short, I got a position that had listed as requirements a bachelors, masters preferred, 5+ years of experience, and more, all of which I technically didn't have. After a year on the job, I'm taking home $4k after taxes (nnot bad at all given my total lack of prior experience) and spent last week training someone my company brought over from Russia.
So if you can't get a job with seven years of experience, you are really doing something wrong. One that I can see is that you list yourself as CAPABLE of learning almost anything. That means jack to employers. When they need a skill, they need it NOW, not several months down the road. Learn the skills and get a job with those skills. If the company has a position open you want, learn the skills on your time and apply. Just saying, "I can do this, this, and this, but can learn anything else you want me to," isn't going to cut it. They don't know your learning ability. After being with an employer for a while, if you've shown you CAN learn quickly via other projects, then they may move you to a position slightly above your skill level. But just getting in? That isn't going to cut it.
You know, Windows and Linux are different. Knowing one doesn't mean you know the other in depth. A dentist isn't going to get a job as a brain surgeon just because the teeth and brain are close together. One doesn't translate to the other.
You need to pick a skill set and work on perfecting that. You can either be mediocre at a few things or really good at just a few. If an employer needs skills X, Y, and Z, they're not going to care that you can do A, B, and C as well if X, Y, and Z are all they need, and you're mediocre at everything. They'll take the candidate who can do X, Y, and Z well and doesn't know jack about A, B, and C. - rdrr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Maybe they need an H.R. person to sift through those resumes... :D
- chrisxkelley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8FTA (or post, rather):
"- Bachelors in Computer Science/Information Systems or comparable experience.
- 6 or more years of systems administration experience at a high volume Web site. "
Answers your question, eh? - mithrandiroo00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7In grade 9 I wrote a choose your own adventure novel in some language on a mac, saved it on a 5" floppy and got an 'A'. That's all I remember.
B-? - AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Someone with twice as much experience as someone with the bare minimum would definitely get more. So what good is it to say that the position starts at $X if someone with a lot more experience, and therefore worth more, would get more? If I have 15 years, I'd be pissed that they'd offer the same as for someone with just the six.
You're not in the Bay Area/Silicon Valley, are you? Because DOE is common here, and a lot of the positions start at a LOT more. Most of what's under $30k is going to be low- or no-skill jobs that can state $X per hour because everyone applying should have the same skills (or lack thereof) anyway. - gardnmi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I know how to get drunk and make an ass of myself.
- kndonlee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The speed could/would be sped up by consolidating all the javascript in digg into ONE file. Once it's downloaded, then the js will run from cache which would also help with load times.
I developed an AJAX site (saubooktrade.com) with my roomy, and found that the site would load slowly. After testing, we figured out that all the separate IO requests were the cause. Think 1000 1k files versus 1 1000k file. Which is faster to transfer? Low I/O is much easier for any type of file activity. - vonskippy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You're either desperate or dumb applying for anything that states DOE for the pay rate.
Nobody good goes after those jobs, you only get mediocre at best.
If I had a nickel for every job that didn't list a pay range that I was dumb enough (in my early years) to apply for, only to find out their top range was $30K LESS then I was already making, I could have retired years ago (not really, but you get the point).
If they start off playing mind games with you before you even work for them, what will your life be like after the contracts are signed? - siekosunfire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@otomo
Damn straight Engineers are better. I've found Engineers, especially Electrical Engineers, to be much better coders than CS graduates. We're not talking the pansy ass ***** either, we're talking about EEs who pick up, and use, stuff like delta-bar-delta, the viterbi algorithm, genetic algorithms, etc. in a few hours and can use that knowledge to complete a task. Not only does Engineering school prepare you for tackling all sorts of problems in industry, it also gives you the necessary foundations in order to branch out easily.
@washcapsfan37
Respect.
- EE/CpE - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6They should do this American Idol style. Start with a handful of candidates and each week we can vote one of them off based on looks or coding ability.
- pkkid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Even with stock options, the strike price on digg.com at this point probably won't make you a millionaire. :)
- vwvwvw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The problem is that few companies are willing to pull thier experienced resources to train the young pups. Its a damn shame.
- mcrbids, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Is there really a need for such an admin? Full time?
I maintain a cluster of servers for a database-driven LAPP (Linux/Apache/PHP/Postgres) application, along with a closely related client-side application. We run a "software as a service" student information system for Charter schools, working with and for some 70 districts up and down the state.
We host from our half-rack at 365 Main, in downtown San Fransisco, even though I live in Chico, CA, 4 hours' drive, 1 hour flight by private plane, distant.
The combination of CentOS O/S, PostgreSQL, and good quality, whitebox equipment have resulted in excellent uptimes (99.95%) and snappy performance on a shoestring budget. I do all my administration and backups remotely via SSH. I spend perhaps 2 days per month doing "administration" - ensuring the backups are done, looking thru the log files for anything funny, portscanning the systems, applying security patches, (and rebooting Friday night, if needed) etc. etc... The application is written to "self-maintain" wherever possible to reduce/eliminate the need for password maintenance, etc. Backups are automatic and offsite, and happen every night without any action on my part.
The day or two I spent writing the scripting to make this happen automatically is time well spent - I recently discovered that, because the backup solution I wrote (disk to remote disk) checks for disk utilization prior to performing the backup, it is considered "autonomic computing" which is just another nice buzzword for the marketers to put on the literature.
I go to the hosting facility about once a year to plug in new equipment. I have 3 new servers I'll have to take down and plug in within the next week or so. Anything else is done over the phone with the hosting facilities' "hot hands" but that's rare. (maybe 1-2 times per year) When you combine decent Unix skills with some good quality shell scripting, in pretty short order, you have systems that almost maintain themselves. And that leaves me to work on what actually brings home the cash - writing new features for our flagship products! - cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There always have and always will be entry level jobs, however in any field getting your first position is a pain. Again, always has been and always will be...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"I forgot to mention that they have to be able to repair our DigDug arcade game."
- vwvwvw, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7**delete this post*** Maybe you guys can hire someone to fix your site to allow deleting of posts
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