What is Digg?62 Comments
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -6/+41I'm sure that Digg couldn't care less if you "top submitter" douches left. The ***** that hits the frontpage is generally all the same crap anyways. Buried.
- COINTELPROAgent, on 01/24/2008, -6/+25Hey guys you know what? There's this magical rainbow place where chronically depressed crybabies like you can go when they need to moan and cry to other chronically depressed emotards.
They even have an teletubby as their logo, and it's called "reddit". So why don't you guys shut the ***** up and GTFO, mkay? - http://reddit.com - cafefort, on 01/24/2008, -7/+25Oh man! I see an automatic burry here, oh man how sad it is, but I'm sure this story will vanish soon from digg :(
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -4/+20Good, go away. Your whining is annoying, you guys take this too seriously. Did anyone make the point I'm about to make yet? Digg has been growing in popularity, the greater the popularity, the higher the digg counts. Digg only raised the digg threshold to ensure less of the repetitive and ridiculous articles on the front page.
The stories are still there, sure less will make it to the front page - but that is what maintains the front pages integrity. - FyreGoddess, on 01/24/2008, -0/+15It appears that the Elite Diggers have become dissatisfied with their lack of acknowledgement and appreciation.
FTA: "5) Repeated and flagrant disrespect of its top users:"
Shall we address the repeated and flagrant disrespect shown by the "top users" for the rest of the community? Those who exist outside of their little clique? The problem here is that the "top users" (and I really take exception to that phrase) exist in a bubble. They believe themselves better than any other member of the community and assume that their submissions are the only things that matter to the site as a whole.
The reality is that top submitters would be NOTHING without people to digg their stories. Specifically, people who are digging it for content rather than name recognition. The reality is that without people making meaningful contributions to the comments of the stories, then it's empty and meaningless to get to the front page.
This assumption that top submitters have done more to make Digg what it is and therefore should be recognized would ultimately cause the downfall of Digg rather than improvements to the site as a whole. Frankly, considering the sheer amount of unfounded entitlement and an assumption of intimacy with the developers, I hope you will boycott for some period of time and watch to see how it doesn't even matter that you, specifically, aren't here.
You are not better than the rest of us, whether or not people recognize your icon or your username. It's a false celebrity and, let me tell you, regardless of the niche where you gain this pseudo-fame, it's incredibly fleeting. If it's already given you an inflated sense of self-worth, then your fall from grace will be harsh indeed. - 89vision, on 01/24/2008, -0/+15Go ahead stop submitting. Digg will still survive and eventually Kevin Rose will be able to afford a new couch.
- lucidguru, on 01/24/2008, -1/+15Since when did digg become a MMORPG? How do I find out what level I'm at?
- nonforma, on 01/24/2008, -3/+17By all means please leave Digg and predict it's imminent doom. It happens every so often; a wonderful cycle that makes sure that the users that become full of themselves and consider themselves the pseudo-editors are purged.
- chaosium, on 01/24/2008, -3/+16No one will care, life will go on without you.
- whatthefu, on 01/24/2008, -1/+13***** the whole idea of "top submitters." That defeats the purpose of Digg in the first place.
- civilizedevil, on 01/24/2008, -1/+13I've never seen so many self-important pricks make threats over something so insignificant. I bet all the top digg users are the same breed that play WOW, you spend so much time on here that you can call yourself a "top user", you feel all warm and fuzzy and important when you reach that status, but in reality your accomplishment doesn't mean jack. It's a false sense of accomplishment, interesting and important news will always find its way to the front page without you douches.... get a life.
- DigiDave, on 01/24/2008, -10/+20We don't have to stop submitting - we just don't have to submit to digg - sign up and then we will find a new social news site to join together.
- unco, on 01/24/2008, -1/+11bury because "ok this is lame" ?.. no that doesn´t quite cut it... Open letter to Kevin Rose: can we add an option to the bury - "author has head up his own ass"
- sobe86, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9Digg staff, if you read this, please pay no notice these guys, they're just being pretentious, selfish little crybabies. No one who isn't a 'top submitter' has ever thought the idea of a 'top submitter' is a good one.
- mattfugitive, on 01/24/2008, -3/+12For every "Top Submitter" that leaves, 5 noobs join Digg. Now out of those 5 noobs, one is destined to be a "Top Submitter" and may very well achieve that status with hard work, dedication, no life and a ***** load of Dew.
- midoritsuru, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9I think what we're seeing here is a natural and eventual outcome of social networking. For whatever reasons, a site doesn't fit what certain users want in it, and they move on to join or create something else. That's fine! Peace out, no hard feelings. Example: people leave Myspace every day because they've decided they hate it, for whatever reasons. Great! Now's the time to find more suitable outlets.
Like many have already said, there will be others to fill the gaps. No one has a monopoly on editing skills, finding good stories, making intelligent comments, etc. digg is more than any single user, or even any group of users, so there is no reason to jump ship, at least for me. If people feel strongly enough about the quality of content on digg, then it might be worth it for them to spend the extra time and energy building networks, finding good stories and working to get their stories promoted. - daniel, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9Quit your whining and please, be my guest and stop submitting. If you, the "top diggers", submit 30-50% of all stories, why the hell is 95% of the frontpage flooded with useless crap? I miss the days when digg was mostly about tech stuff.
- FyreGoddess, on 01/24/2008, -0/+8Which is why they no longer track it. It's too bad they ever did, but what are you gonna do?
The shame of it is that these "elite diggers" remember when there was an official list and have come up with external tools to continue to track how "integral" to the process they are. - dn11, on 01/24/2008, -0/+8bye
- COINTELPROAgent, on 01/24/2008, -2/+9Nice scientology tactic there, *****.
- brstilson, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7"Top users" whining about Digg are like homeless people who think they should get better soup at the soup kitchen since they show up the most, and when told no they threaten to never come back.
As far as leaving, I have a message from the community to all "top users" who are "threatening" to leave: GO AHEAD. Good riddance! Buh-bye! - ThinkBox, on 01/24/2008, -0/+7The front page is flooded with crap stories.... because of crap users.
Sometimes if you spend so much time on digg submitting stories.. your understanding for whats best for the community can shift,, not will, but can. And people thinking that Digg will miss them.... I think they value themselves too much. Many times I see the SAME articles submitted by a lot of other diggers, but because they dont have 50 friends digging it immediately and then name recognition it doesnt front page.
On some levels quality might go down because inexperienced users and poor stories might take the place of the few good content articles top submitters submit, but it wille ventually even out.
There will ALWAYS be top submitters, people that will work hard and find good or niche content. Leaving will not change much. There are so many users on Digg and joining every day... that leaving will just change the community... - brstilson, on 01/24/2008, -1/+7I can imagine one of these guys on a date...
Top digg user: Have you ever heard of digg.com?
Woman: ummmmmm, no (oh God he's one of those guys who spends all his time on the internet)
TDU: Well I'm a top user there!
W: Wow..that's.........nice. That's really....nice (God kill me now) - Burento, on 01/24/2008, -7/+13It is sad that it takes all this to get Digg staff to pay enough attention to comment. If they would just talk to us or respond once in a while it wouldn't come to this.
- chaosium, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Exactly, it's not one big circlejerk, others deserve their time on the frontpage too.
- graderguy, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5lmao.... went to mixx.com to see what was up there... of the top 5 stories 3 were about digg and how mean they are ... looks like the revolters are being revolting elsewhere.....
irony? naw, just plain funny..... "I'm taking my marbles and bitching at you from another social networking site.." - yohnstoppable, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Buried. Sorry you can't control 80% of the crap that hits the front page. And why do you care what hits the front page anyway? The ONLY reason to take something like this personally is if you were getting some kind of personal gain from it. In which case, you are a douche, and I don't care if you leave
Your "revolution" is stupid - chaosium, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5"The ONLY reason to take something like this personally is if you were getting some kind of personal gain from it"
I wonder where the income comes in, it reminds me of when Slashdot was filled with blogspam "top" submitters. - brstilson, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4What they're saying don't even qualify as threats. A threat would imply that there would be a negative effect on Digg. The problem these guys have is they think they have a valuable commodity (story submissions) when they don't. Without their stories, others would immediately take their place. In fact, it's as if they haven't realized that other people find the same stories they do. They're the kind of guys that Kevin Rose has to get restraining orders against.
- theskunkworks, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4oh big ***** deal. half the decent links you find on digg now from the top submitters came from reddit the previous day. no one will care if they stop submitting
- chaosium, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Are you at the Ron Paul or the iPhone grind?
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -6/+10perhaps a week. A day is nothing.
- smacksaw, on 01/24/2008, -1/+4Hey, you posed a great question - what did happen to emobrat? Wasn't he connected with some of the other top users? IMO, he was one of the "benevolent" top users because he got some really good stuff, while others were just camping Ars and LifeHacker and posting every single update they made.
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -6/+9thought, word and deed once sloganeered, a reaction undefined, the battle-hymn, the mantra of a once unfocused mind. but as logic tempered anger, still inspired but now informed,
- defectDS, on 01/24/2008, -2/+4And by response, we don't mean Kevin popping in and saying "Oh thanks for the feedback, we're working on it! Thanks guys! Beep beep boop bop boop beep!"
- estvir, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3Hardly anyone will join in and if the top Diggers leave others will fill their spot and/or people who are submitting the same stories will have theirs promoted instead.
- chaosium, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3No, that's the community who think you people are morons.
- brstilson, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3Or perhaps you could all just leave, for good. Nothing would change, stories would still get to the front page. It's not like no one else ever finds the stories you find.
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Note: I'm liking the fact more people are getting to the front page. I'm not liking the lolcats.
It's a tradeoff. I'm certainly waiting a week to see how things work out. I still think we need a Democratic Digg where the users make the decisions.
That's the most important failure of digg. That it will ultimately be sold, and controlled.
We need news outlets that are democratic, and Digg is the closest thing we have right now. We need more, so one company cannot just buy it up, and limit our freedom of speech.
As much as I'm getting sick of the Scientology stuff, it's nice things like that can happen. - inactive, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1you are right. morons
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Something I don't like is the irregularity of updates now. The frontpage seems to be getting updated less, but I'm focusing more on upcoming now. So maybe that's a good thing.
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1We've certainly had enough articles about the algorithm change though at this point. Another problem with digg, you start a wave of stuff, and the waves still have to hit the shore.
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1The worst part of mixx is the lack of long discussions from fewer users. That can only be helped by more participation though.
- Sep11insidejob, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Here are a lot of morons for you:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html - Paperfingernail, on 01/24/2008, -1/+1This comment will never make it to the top of the comment pile, because I am not a high-powered enough user.
- dtele, on 02/21/2008, -1/+1Disagree - a game is when there are rules and everyone plays fair - this aint fair - its just a scam.
- redwallhp, on 01/24/2008, -8/+8We could go on strike, sort of. Let's all not use Digg for a day (say January 26).
- notque, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1Emobrat and Polymath22 submitted excellent content. As did Greg Davies before he was banned.
- smacksaw, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1How I use Digg/Top users
I used to be pretty critical of the top users, especially zaibatsu, but I will say that a lot of their submissions have gotten a lot better lately. Less greedy. I don't think it had anything to do with friends, either. I think they listened and tried to improve how they do things. So if these users want to make a statement, I'm all for it. I don't see it as grandstanding or patting themselves on the back. I think most of them are just not FULLY aware of the influence they have enough to properly wield it. I think a great example of someone I friended is notque who posts some really interesting stuff. We need the zaibatsus of the world to bring mainstream people to Digg, but we need the notques of the world to get articles up that regular people would not otherwise know even existed.
As far as submitting, I don't really care if what I post gets to the front page. I don't even care if it's a duplicate story. I simply submit links to blog them 90% of the time. I do share with my Digg friends, but it's only for their own edification. I like using Digg as a way to automatically leave links to news articles. It's really not even what it's intended for, but sometimes the best inventions are failures at their intended use. For what I want Digg to do it works perfectly.
I think the justice would be is if stuff I am just putting on Digg to have on my blog actually made it to the front page since I am not doing it for anything other than selfish reasons and I admit it, while many top submitters feel power. It's selfish selflessness. If I don't get stuff on the front page, that's OK as well. But it would be nice to see the little guy win and my blog is little. - cafefort, on 01/24/2008, -5/+4I'm right! :) Since my submission which looks like yours desapeared too!
take a look here: http://digg.com/design/Me_vs_Digg_Round_1
It was in the hotlist and everything was fine, and then... in a matter of seconds! nada! vanished! go fihure why? That makes me smile, but this is very very sad! -
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