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- oldcyborg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If there IS no law to handle the situation, or to go back to, then it isn't Vigilante-ism. It is a small revolution. Aimed at ONE Named business, but seen by others who might become the same way, were it not for the Internet...
BB is basically a peer review, and if you don't give a squat what your peers say, then it has done no good, and other means need to be found. How often do any of us call the BB before making a purchase. I don't think I ever have.
These people are not civilized, so civilized actions do not affect them!!!!
As long as the case is well presented, and by ONE of us, if we determine to do what we may, to help, then I see nothing wrong with it.
I am a biker(less now than before), and you KNOW how we handle such things.......
So, I think we have been quite civilized about it, considering what all could have happened.
I hope he canceled his credit card, filed a complaint, and got a new card. It is time consuming, but in the long run, these people will identified, and Their credit will go to squat...
Cyborg - bluffcityjk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Smacks a bit of vigilantism, don't you think?
- modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For those who haven't dugg the original story yet:
http://digg.com/deals/Abusive_New_York_Camera_Store_Threatens_Blogger - mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7This is an inappropriate way to handle the situation. Denial of service attacks, prank calls, and the ilk can expose those responsible, possibly even Digg.com (including possibly Mssrs. Rose and Albrecht) to potential litigation.
NY recognizes tortious interference with contracts as a cognizable cause of action. Stop this.
If you want to help, go to NYC.gov and lodge a complaint with NY City's Consumer Advocate. If you put the appropriate pressure there, the Consumer Advocate's office can then take action.
What you are doing is nothing more than vandalism and vigilantiism. PLEASE STOP NOW! - datter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just so long as it smacks.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sadly, they'll probably be back online and conducting business as usual tomorrow.
- telegon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Vigilantism? Why not call it what it REALLY is..
Diggilantism. - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2>>>"Smacks a bit of vigilantism, don't you think?"
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>>Damn straight.
Agreed. Hit 'em where it hurts...
h4x0rs, sic 'em! - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2now i wonder how much it would take for americans to get back a our ***** up government that's been screwing us for years?
- en3r0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yes, its wrong, but with the way our legal system works, it wouldnt have done much to the guy, and would have taken forever. He will recover, and hopefully learn a lesson.
- eshepard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Check out PriceRitePhoto.com's real address. It's perfect: http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0135.htm
- kspore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have to admit, while what the store did was horribly wrong, two wrongs don't make a right. In an age where those transmitting the data that allows something to happen is possibly illegal, you may be putting Digg.com in some small risk, but beyond that... what if this was all a joke and this company is actually reputable. Maybe not, but doing denial of service attacks, calling the store and whatever else folks have been doing, is no different than a mob running down the street after some guy they heard touched some 8 year old girl in a very inappropriate way.... while it may seem the right thing to do and great (all-be-it sick) joy might be had from the chase and the eventual beating of the poor lost soul, it is wrong to do it and those that do find themselves in a court room down the hall from the poor lost soul.... and possibly in a law suit if they chased the wrong guy.
Mr. Hawk may have a civil case (hell, you can sue for anything here) so he should take that route... There is nothing we can do, but give him moral support, not shop at the store and advise others to not shop at the store. if this made the news, Digg users would end up looking like childish technocrats who don't know how to live in a civilized society, where dark thick rimmed glasses and can't get dates. Let's be responsible adults, or for some of you responsible young adults and do things the right way. - spin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Grow up guys, there is a right way and a wrong way to get this assclown. Most of you seem to be going to wrong way with this.
Calling a company with a legit complaint is OK, but calling on behalf of someone else 's is wrong. And prank phone calls? That's just idiotic.
DoS Attacks? That is illegal, and worse than that, you're not just hurting Price Rite, you are hurting anyone who happens to be on the same web server as him. VERY WRONG!
Shout it from the tallest building, blog about what a crook these guys are, but don't resort to childish retaliations like email bombing and prank phone calls. - hankbeasley, on 04/22/2009, -0/+1Awesome, I wish there was a place on Digg where we could track this kind of stuff. I recommend an attack on Best Buy.
- Mike.ohara, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1**Posted in the comments of the destination site**
*SHENSMan Says:
*November 30th, 2005 at 3:50 pm
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*And how do you know that the kid wasn’t lying about the whole thing. He *probally made up the whole story or was a competing vendor.
*I hope everyone who launched a DOS attack against them or flooded their *phone lines get arrested.
Wow... Just Wow.. - Cander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"ok, so we all know what the 'slashdot effect' is, so what will the digg effect be called? "
Buried - Cander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Smacks a bit of vigilantism, don't you think?"
Damn straight. - bryanpcola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ok, so we all know what the 'slashdot effect' is, so what will the digg effect be called?
- gluon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Fighting crime by committing more crimes is not the right way to go after this problem.
- echimu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Since site is down here is what it got:
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Thomas Hawk is a photographer which photography is a passionate hobby of his. For weeks he has been waiting for a price drop on a camera that he wanted, and when it finally reached his price range he decided to buy it, after checking for the best price.
As it turns out the best price was found at PriceRitePhoto so he went out and made the purchase. After completing the order thing started to go south.
“I will make sure you will never be able to place an order on the internet again.” “I’m an attorney, I will sue you.” “I will call the CEO of your company and play him the tape of this phone call.” “I’m going to call your local police and have two officers come over and arrest you.” “You’d better get this through your thick skull.” “You have no idea who you are dealing with.”
These are all direct threats that I received today from an individual who identified himself as Steve Phillips, the manager of PriceRitePhoto in Brooklyn, New York when he called to inquire about his order with them. This abuse came after telling them that he planned to write an article about the unfortunate experience with this company regarding the camera order.
After Hawk wrote the article on his blog, he published it on Digg.com and the response from Digg users was tremendous.
Beside the usual advice (always check seller ratings etc’) dig users decided to take action and posted the store’s aliases, phone number and address. Users then started to flood PriceRitePhoto 800 number with phone calls, writing scripts using Skype to call and disconnect, making prank calls (http://danny.st/tmp/pricerite.mp3 , http://danny.st/tmp/pricerite2.mp3), launching DOS attacks against the site, posting bad reviews on web sites, posting links to Hawk’s blog on internet forums, flooding PriceRitePhoto with email messages, posted complaints to the better business bureau , sending fax messages and succeeded to bring down their live chat feature.
After this kind of attack maybe merchants will try harder to provide a better customer service, well at least one has definitely learned his lesson.
Thanks to KilleRabbit from the forum for the heads up
------- - antispammer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Diggowned
- Hoohoonick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"ok, so we all know what the 'slashdot effect' is, so what will the digg effect be called?"
"Duggone" (take from the word "Doggone") - Anti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's been dugg 6 feet. Snap.
- GreenTentacle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Alright yeah, what the store did was bad and wrong. But come on, who actually trusts those photo stores ? Ever hear "too good to be true" ? ResellerRatings should be required reading before doing any business on the net.
And being immature about "getting back" at the store just destroyed any credibility this person had. Getting any real action on this store from the NY AG, the BBB, or anything official is going to be fairly difficult now. - bryanpcola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah i thought of 'buried' , but it just doesn't carry the feel of impending doom well. we need something unique to digg, yet understandable by those who are not digg members.
- duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The new name for the Digg effect is officially
DDDos
or D3oS
Digg Distributed Denial of Service
OOORA for Digg! - elfguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0May not be a first class article, but more awareness to the original story is good!
- Galaeron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wtg guys ;) lets not stop
- Googled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"CGI-limits reached, please try again later"
We killed the site, well done team - nailz420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0mike.ohara: I dont understand why you dont find it impossible that the story is lie. As we all can see spinning public opinion your way could be a very powerfull weapon on the internet, and we all know power corrupts. Its only a matter of time until someone uses it extortion or vandalism.
- geronimus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Consumers who have had bad experiences have the then right ( and with the internet the power) to protect other consumers from being ripped off. DOS and vigilantism is probably not very productive, what would be great is a website where consumers rate the service they have received from a vendor or a service provider. In that way, new potential customers can be made aware of the people they should, or should not, do business with.
Meet my new favorite site: www.mecustomer.com .
I think that this is moving in the right direction to take consumer protection to a new level. Consumers protecting consumers - its new, and still quite empty I gave my insurance company both barrels there for their attempt to rip me off. My lawyer got a big +++ for giving the insurance co. a suitable slap & getting them to do their duty. - covrigel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
- Eldorado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm from Toronto, Ontario... but I find this quote from the US Declaration of Independence to be quite fitting... lol
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form"
Lets digg this guy a new 'foundation', boys..... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love their poorly done amazon.com rip off design.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I took the legitimate route reported them to various sites and all that did not participate in DoS attacks or prank phone calls or any of that....but I have to say I am not condemning people for doing it...I support them I say it is better than some poor soul being screwed out of 3 grand! so it maybe wrong and in some cases two wrongs do make a right as in the case of this....
- datter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0More threats. Great idea.
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Those of you who cared enough to attack PriceRitePhoto.com, you can lodge your complaint with the NYC Consumer Advocate here:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dca/html/resources/forms.shtml
If you really care, then use this route. It's legal and will better serve Mr. Hawk's cause. - version30.x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good use of the Arnold sound board here...
- anansewill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This same guy ripped me off on a canon sd100 camera. He sent me a refurbished one and claimed it was new even though the box said it was refurbished and it will clearly used before. I called and complained and he said that he will put it on my credit report that I didn't pay and will mess up my credit if I keep complaining. I filed a complaint with the NY D.A's office and they refused to do anything about it even though I showed them evidence of over 100 people with the same type of problem. This was over a year ago and now real justice is being served!
- striker1211, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The fact that they use CAPITALS on EVERY page should tip you off too
- Vlatro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone ripped off by these guys should do a letter to the editor of NYC local newspapers, mabey even the digital camera's consumer guide. Print reviews will reach many people who don't bother with web forums or those who may not understand that web seller's "star rating" is meaningless.
Consider contacting their web provider. Companines who run scams are often dropped by their providers, and can have their domain blacklisted on DNS servers.
Also contact web search directories alerting them to any search results that return a know scammer on the first page. Directories are moderated and they can be bumped down the list, or removed completely from web searches.
I have heard several people say they were asked to fax information. Anyone got the number. I have a full ream of black construction paper to fax them.
I would also look into who holds the business license. That is a matter of public record. Send a letter to NYC chamber of commerce. They have little power over such things officially, but they do have an incredible amount of influence. Likewise, reporting them to credit agencies will seriously hurt their business in the long run.
Most of all, post this link in any online community forums you belong to. Get the word out. E-mail your friends and family to warn them against buying from this vendor durring the holiday season. Generate some hype about this. Mabey other online sellers will begin to recognize how people react to poor business ethics. Make an example out of them. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this FULLY ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"
- imtigger2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just like the fake names created to give themselves good ratings... they're now creating new digg accounts and pleading with us to stop harrassing them? ha!
Nice try dorks, but it's not gonna fly here. - mdyoke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It may feel good but this is the wrong way to go about getting satisfaction. All you have done now is given this business legal recourse to take action against you.
- Mike.ohara, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0nailz420, no more one of those wtf moments.
I don't doubt the credibility of the originating story. in fact I find it damned impossible for anyone too. a simple bit of research into the company finds a plethora of information that serves to only further credit the victim's story.
Now I should say: Do i agree with the "mob" tactics, no, not necessarily. However.. do I think that with how "well" the "system" works that some punishment is in order, probably. its not my place to say. what. One can only tell the story, not govern the reactions of it's listeners. - tange1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Have any of you ever actually used BBB? It takes years and doesn't work most of the time. If the business has outdated or old addresses they never get notices. The BBB is a great idea but very slow to do what little they can do.
- JoePrey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This ability of the digg or any other community is both dangerous and extremely helpful.
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here in New York, there is an office of the Consumer Advocate. It is actually suprisingly pro-consumer. Additionally, Eliot Spitzer's office (he's the State A.G.) is always looking for a cause.
GO THROUGH LEGAL CHANNELS. STOP THIS! - Romaro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good men must not obey the laws too well.
(Emerson)
Oh and lawyers suck (blood) - Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hahahahahaha listen to those mp3's...they sure deserved it and more. proof of how good sound boards can be lol!
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