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- Charlotte_Web, on 10/10/2007, -0/+75"Sensationalist" certainly describes about 75% of the stories that hit the front page.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+63"Not all Digg users are stupid, but the quality of debate can be worse than a four-ale bar on a Saturday night." Just wanted to quote that.
- GrendelT, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35"What is popular is not always right,
what is right is not always popular." - 1laradream, on 10/10/2007, -4/+35Jack mentioned the story I subbed! This makes me an insignificantly unmentionable famous person!
http://digg.com/world_news/I_ate_my_roommate_says_teen_2 - j1337, on 10/10/2007, -5/+31He clearly wrote this article so that the guardian could benefit from Digg front page traffic love...
- zeromancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28it's not so much that mob wisdom doesn't work, but more that fact that pre-teenagers happen to voice their (uninformed) opinions much louder than the rest of the sensible users on digg.
- TGMD, on 10/10/2007, -6/+29It's somewhat true, Digg is rapidly involving into an internet Tabloid...
But who doesn't love Tabloids!? - Ajajadude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20Part of me wants to take offense to that (a very small part), but the rest of me (the smart me) has to agree with that statement.
- Jabertsohn, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20I don't love tabloids.
- cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Ohh and I guess you're one of them. Saying people on digg have "no outside life" sounds like a page right out of the "how to insult someone while attending High School" handbook.
I'm not a teenager, I'm in my late 20's. - fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15It's hard not to agree. On any story there's really only two strains of discussion... a circlejerk and people who are dugg down for not joining the circle.
- 11Heather, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18You go girl, I always knew you would amount to nobody. ;o)
- HeatVision, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11As a person who likes to debate at four-ale bars, I take offense to that statement. How else to you determine what you would sleep with for $10,000?
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11The headlines, sure, but I was more referring to the articles.
- CorpT, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10You need to learn the difference between "doesn't" and "does".
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8"What is dugg up are those things that the mob WISHES were correct."
That should go in a 20 point heading right at the top of every page. - IceZZ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7No, mob wisdom does not work. The majority of people are often wrong on technical topics, and it shows on Digg. Some loose examples include things like the Digg article that says hangovers are caused by dehydration (they are not), and that the FSF can bring copyright suits against GPL violators (they don't have standing). On much of this kind of stuff, the mob is just plain wrong.
What is dugg up are those things that the mob WISHES were correct. - OddTSi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." Agent K, Men In Black.
A more fitting quote to this topic I cannot think of. Individually Digg users seem rather intelligent, but put them together and they start acting like cows being herded to the next open field. - DigitalBuilder, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10He makes some good point, hehe
"At the time of writing, the top World & Business story is: " 'I ate my roommate', says teen." In second place in this week's Science section is: "Post-Orgasmic Women Agree: 15 sex tips to leave them dazed & amazed."
Funny - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6There is no spoon
- nickmch, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8The people that should rule never want to and the people who want to rule never should. Not exactly the newest piece of wisdom but it is true non the less. I've heard Kevin Rose talk about the collective wisdom, boy did he make the wrong bet. Personally I see most things on digg getting sensationalist spin even if there wasn't any to be implied by the original story. The one thing I would like to see disappear is the internet tough-guy mentality, please, if you wouldn't say it in polite conversation, trust me it doesn't need to be said at all. Well there is my two-cents
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Funny videos" describe the other 25%.
- 11Heather, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Yes, the Headlines have to surprised. But isn't this true of most newspapers that appeal to digg profile readers?
- WikiEasy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Digg is no better than an off-topic section of a popular forum. You want news? Digg isn't it. Top ten lists, best/worst/craziest pic you will see today, etc. etc.
- crapatastic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Actually, the man has a point. I stopped really using Digg months ago. I still pop in for a read once in a while. But you should really see the hypocrisy from a far. I can surmise it in a statement like:
UserA: OMGWTF US/IRAN/IRAQ IS EVIL & FULL OF SHEEP
UserB: YES YES, WE ARE ALL SHEEP
Seriously? Grow up. Learn to make educated decisions based on your own research, not what the man to your left is telling you.
I too feel the world is not right, but I didn't reach that conclusion from what the mob was spouting around me.
Mob rule is not a good thing. Look it up. It's how people get lynched... - grumpyrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4My spoon is too big.
- TheSpore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I think one of the main problems on Digg is verifying the accuracy of the articles. Maybe someone ate their roommate, maybe they didn't. If people eating their roommates is a pandemic, then I think it deserves to be on the front page, no matter how grotesque it may seem.
Diggers are not journalists. We only increase the publicity of stories, we don't research them. I think if we had a good system of verifying stories, i.e. journalists and news editors with ethics that don't try to sensationalize stories, then we'd filter out a lot of this nonsense.
In the meantime I think the burden should be on the story submitter to make sure the articles they submit are from decent sources, i.e. not Reuters or tabloids. Right now Digg seems to reward the submitters who submit 10,000 articles a day without looking at them, and punishes the people who only submit one or two stories a day but actually read them to make sure they are worthy of submitting. - drafhk, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9File this under "N" for "no *****". Anyone with half a mind who has been on Digg for more than half a day doesn't need an expert's opinion to know this is the case.
*waits for mob wisdom to bury this comment* - jennamalia, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Damn, I didn't know my 11th grade english teacher was on digg!"
Late bloomer, Ajajadude? I think that our class covered that in 3rd grade... - seventhcrow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5If ever there was an example against pure democracy... ;) Good thing we live in a republic.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I was going to digg you up until "*waits for mob wisdom to bury this comment*".
- cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I've never liked the idea of "mob mentality" because it seems to take responsibility off the hands of the individuals and over to this idea of a "mob." It's actual, real, breathing idiots that move dumb stories to the front page, not some mystical "mob mentality."
I understand the theory of it, but I won't remove responsibility from the individual. - Gornall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Yeh, some of the comments you see on digg or beyond explanation. Well other than the obvious "10yr old macho man over the internet" idiots we get.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This is a problem with democracy as a whole, the truth is 90% of people are idiots - most just follow the crowd and vote for who they were told. Thats why if you have a lot of money and can control or buy the media you have a lot of power.
It would be nice to see something like a spam captcha applied to voting in elections so all the idiots don't count. For example, if your voting on a policy ask a few questions about it, if you don't get them right your vote don't count. - nakani, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5evolving*
- Backwards2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Schonfeld points out the unintended consequences of citizen journalism. While the idealists would have you believe that the wisdom of crowds will lead to better, smarter, and more balanced journalist, the history of DIGG illustrates that communities founded with the best intent rapidly descend into trivia and sensationalism. Now if only the traditional press, with qualified editors, could develop better business models.
- BarleyWind, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It should automatically come up whenever someone types in the words Ron Paul.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's too late for that.
- zeromancer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4actually, hangovers are amplified by dehydration, which occurs at a much higher rate while drinking. alcohol causes your body temperature to rise, making you sweat more. also, you pee a lot more. so by drinking a lot of water before passing out actually does HELP a hangover, not prevent it. but please continue being a prick to people for sharing an anecdote with you.
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4See, this is exactly what the guy's talking about. He said, "Many of the stories that get dugg are sensationalist, and some are worse."
Many. M-A-N-Y. Not "all". Many.
So how does it follow that his story should fall into the sensationalist category? I'd really like to see you try and explain the thought process that led to your comment. - Gabberwok, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Why did people digg this article? It doesn't mention Ron Paul or Linux once!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3She's a witch!! Burn the witch!!
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It sounds like the point of the article was completely lost on you...
- TygerrTygerr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's not just true of Digg though, by any means. It's equally true many things, including newspapers themselves. Now you have tabloids and Page 3s. As soon as a medium is popularised, it becomes stupider.
- nickmch, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I guess you'll take your 15 mins anyway you can get them
- stevew928, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I agree with this article. Digg is generally more 'interesting', than it is accurate or 'the best of news' or anything like that. I've noticed that it often ends up being an ideological turf war. That can be fun and interesting though... and I've seen stories here I might not run across otherwise. So, I guess it has it's place, but I certainly don't look at the popularity of stories on Digg as having any barring on their quality, accuracy, or importance. -Steve
- CosmicJustice, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Uhmm.. Dude, you're only one person. He didn't say EVERYONE on digg was a teenager.
- 3dom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I might be wrong here but I think it's just a reprint of the column in the actual paper.
- inlove, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, it just proves this sort of stuff is what people like to read, doesn't it? So, if Guardian and co want to be as popular as Digg they should follow Digg's lead!
- seventhcrow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1true, true...but i still think a "pure" democracy is a bad idea. So did the founding fathers. But I don't think they had a bloated federal government in mind either. ;(
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