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- gd007, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35for next five minutes this comment is hot!
- fjvwing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"(be warned: this is not the Algonquin round table) "
Well! So that's how it is, huh!
Then again, the writer is right. And it makes me sure miss Plastic. But then again, I recommend that everyone who thinks the level of intelligence in the Digg comments is abysmal to go take a look at the comments at Netscape. I can't believe how hard it must be an editor there, knowing you are working for that level of discourse... - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"I recommend that everyone who thinks the level of intelligence in the Digg comments is abysmal to go take a look at the comments at Netscape."
The man speaks the truth. - dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Okay... I've made errors when I submitted stories and I emailed Digg support for help and they were quick in changing them for me. They're no strangers to altering stories, but I doubt they had any malicious intent when changing the category from gadgets to offbeat news. Wouldn't submitting stories into the wrong topic be even more wrong and detrimental to Digg?
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That's actually all I've been saying, in a nutshell. Please don't misunderstand Digg's comments on this subject. We think our relationship with the traditional media is symbiotic for precisely this reason.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Digg's approach is to democratize the news.
As if you couldn't tell. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yes most of the stories people read are on the first page.
Yet a few diggers rating one as inaccurate can take those articles off the front-page in less time than it took to get up there. Also I noticed that the amount of articles hitting the front-page coincides with when kids get out of school, the amount of dick and fart jokes tends to be relative to these times as well. - SirSid, on 05/27/2009, -0/+5I actually think he has great points. Sure little segments of news get on digg all the time. But real articles? who makes those real articles? The Chicago tribune makes them. The New York times makes them. They research things and write detailed accurate articels. All digg does is drive people towards them. So no. Digg will never replace traditional news media. It may just be a place where one can get a quick view of the world at that moment. (A skewed veiw in diggs case since we are all techy people)
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just because 90% (made that up) of people only view Front Page stories doesn't mean Digg has failed in some regard. It's up to the users to decide just how much they will contribute to the community.
Digg is highly democratic. But since when have you ever known a democracy of any kind to have 100% involvement of it's members? User apathy isn't a product of Digg's design - it's democracy's nature to have apathetic members where only a few of the people really emerge as contributors.
Any problems with Digg's model lies in democracy itself - not the site. More people can contribute if they want to.. but they chose not to. Complacency.. apathy.. ignorance.. choose your poison. All are naturally found in a democratic system.
This isn't supposed to be "digg fanboi" comment... I think it just makes sense. Does anyone want to argue otherwise? - andrewthrice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Exactly - Digg will never be the actual news source, only a tool to rank existing news sources. People say Digg is a great news source, or that it's supplanting the NY Times, because they're ignorant, lazy, or trying to sensationalize.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4this story is so 10 minutes ago.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4[quote]User apathy isn't a product of Digg's design[/quote]
That is something that should be addressed. I think the new expanded categorization scheme has made it more difficult to scan through all the news. Some good stories and info just don't make it because most people scan through the front page or their favorite categories without considering the rest.
I know this because I can post the same story to one section, not have it Digg'd, then post it to a high-traffic section and have it Dugg within minutes, sometimes immediately.
Do we really need a separate category like Space, or Web Games? If some were merged, and the completely unpopular cut, it'd be easier to look through everything at once. It'd also be easier to spot dupes. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes digg does. Now beat it damonbrent and dont let the door hit you on the way out. Its an expensive door and I dont want you marring it.
- ThirdPrize, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Lets face it, the top stories on the front page are the only ones most people ever read. By the time its down the bottom the last comment was usually a 3-6 hours ago. If its on page two then its history. The whole thing is propelled by those people with too much time on their hands who sit around reading all the new stories. The new Commander Tacos. Do we have statistics for how many Diggs a story has when it hits front page and how many it has when it leaves it?
Still, at least I can turn the Linux stories off now. :) - slugicide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The "Algonquin round table" was a private table cordoned off by a velvet rope; digg is house-party!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You sure you want to use up those fifteen minutes here? You only get them once.
- Cutter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'll second that one. I enjoy diggnation as much as I enjoy using digg. 1
- machineking, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The only complaint I have about digg is the podcast isn't frequent enough, and thats not even a compaint.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Actually it's a digg article criticizing how digg works..
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OBKenobi,
That actually sounds like a great idea. Of course, this is something that couldn't be totally determined before v3 launched.. but as long as Digg is keeping stats of where the traffic is, they could make such an improvement on the next update. - mattb5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't I at least get my allotted FIFTEEN minutes of fame?! When did it get downsized to five?
- MrDan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3A Digg article on How Digg Works ? :-/
- Djerrid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And then TiVo came along...
- andrewthrice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Did anyone else find the VCR analogy a little lacking? Seems like such a stretch. From TFA:
"...there are those who think that it will remain a largely niche phenomenon, a technology taken advantage of by smallish groups of like-minded and tech-forward users.
I'm with the latter group, mostly because, whenever I think about new technology and its potential to go mainstream, I remember the Rule of the VCR. Every household had one. They were easy to set up and use, and using them fully offered people the great benefit of watching TV on their own, not the network's, schedule. Yet in more than 9 out of 10 homes, the VCR might as well not have had a "record" button; it was put to its simplest use, playing tapes." - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's nearly impossible to forsee such things until they're tested in the real world, I know.
Digg has gotten significantly slower with all the extra traffic, on top of the extra categories, so Digging for new stories through multiple categories is becoming difficult. Everyone using multiple tabs to get around this problem are getting confused and often post in the wrong stories. Note all the "Damn, I posted in the wrong story!" comments. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1[quote]go take a look at the comments at Netscape.[/quote]
Wow, I forgot about that place already. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -11/+12Digg has just been awesome lately, they have been truly innovating things.
- juanbobo808, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4What I like about this article is the fact that he brings a sense of reality to the purpose and application of digg as someone's news source. It's important to realize that stories about college students pulling pranks might make the headlines here, but from traditional news sources it wouldn't in a million years make the whole first section of a newspaper.
What I don't like about this is that author makes Adelson sound like the creator of the site, and doesn't give any credit to Kevin Rose, who was the true innovator here. Mind you, no disrespect to Jay, I think he's awesome as well, but I think we can all agree if any of us were to think of one person behind the development of this site, it's Kevin. - deut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3yep me too. whoop-di-f'ing-doo - digg 3.0 is just great.
Now they've finished having smoke blown up their ass, let's hope they actually address some of the criticisms that have been aired lately. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I also wish Diggnation was released more often .. maybe twice a week?
by the time they talk about the stories on the podcast .. it's old news. - machineking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0well said. My mother is the only person I know who used the VCR to record. She'd record 'As the world turns' like clockwork. Everyone else rented moves and played home videos.
Funny how the DVD era didnt give us crap to record with until the DVR era... - djoek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Jay, then why does digg staff change the category for stories? http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Is_it_Friday_
more here: http://dystopics.dump.be/2006/07/14/digg-is-being-worked-proof-sort-of-of-the-diggtatorial-regime/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The problem with his "five minutes ago" is that Digg is really controlled by an extremely active small community. If the small part of the digg community disapproves of content in a story, it doesn't make it to the front page. If it does, it almost every time makes it. Case in point:
http://www.digg.com/security/Secure_Your_Website..._By_Hacking_It! - TheFast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0He seemed pretty threatened that sites like Digg are soon going to decide how famous stories like his will become, compared to him just being able to throw ***** at the wall and have it stick every time he writes something new.
- rodtrent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0So, Digg is not a news service? It's just a popularity site kind of like high school? Where's my Clearasil?
- djoek, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2DFB, let the users decide that! If digg _claims_ to be completely user-moderated, but they alter stories 'for our own damn good' that's not even lying anymore, that's communism. I've been on digg a long time, and if any story manages to pull 20 diggs in an hour, and after tampering 40 in 4, it deserves a frontpage. I'm feeling lied to, and gamed, and if they treat users this way that try to submit good stuff, THAT is what will kill it off. The story did great in the original category == the people have chosen. Support should be concerned with abusing, not honest genuine submitters
- kazsymonds, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Exactly, im tired of hearing about digg on digg, digg has become a sess pool of self satisfying cretins.
- andrewthrice, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0crap that was for roflcpt3r above
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -14/+8Why am I being modded down for saying something positive about Digg?
- damonbrent, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0digg has a CEO??? If so, I'll gladly quit visiting the site...
anti-parasitically-y'rs,
b - kampfy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0Verbing Weirds Language
- ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Don't weird English.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2"Digg has just been awesome lately; there have been some truly innovative things"
Perhaps correct grammar helps : - decay, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4O RLY MR. CEO? :)
- digid, on 10/12/2007, -17/+0apply a STUMBLEUPONesque tool to digg and everyone will stop complaining of dupes


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