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- danhuard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just to clarify folks...the digg homepage/queue you know and love will not contain other categories. Everything will be separated. So if you want sports news, you'll navigate to sports.digg.com...politics, it'll be politics.digg.com, and so on. Digg.com will most likely (we're 100% yet) be the domain portal for all the categories. All categories will contain sub-categories much like the way digg has it now.
Although we're not confirming it yet, some categories from digg (right now) might be separated out into their own branch (i.e. movies, music, science, etc.) This is especially good b/c most digg users don't understand that, especially the music and movies section, those categories are tech-related, not entertainment-related. So really, stories like this...http://digg.com/movies/_First_X-Men_3_Photos_Revealed_ don't belong on digg at all right now.
Please make no mistake...we haven't confirmed how the categories will be separated out yet. But it is our goal, as our CEO said, to EVENTUALLY cover all aspects of a typical newspaper. You won't be disappointed. This is a good thing. And please continue to give us feedback! - GarySwager, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I disagree, the system Digg uses is perfect for an audience broader than just tech nerds. And if you don't like it, stick to the tech section.
I agree that it would be a bad idea for slashdot, but slashdot works differently. Its 'formula' is not so easily applied to other areas of interest. - Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I apologize if this comes off as a flame, but I thought the Google comment is a really bad example. While yes it it's focus is on being a search engine, it's also expanded to a means of spreading advertising not to mention the many other projects Google has expanded into like Googletalk, Google Maps, Google Earth, Froogle, ect ect. Even if you are focusing on the fact it's a search engine, remember it didn't always have the ability to search images either. They have even over the years changed how it conducts searches which also is a huge change. None of this has stopped Google from becoming the behemoth that it is. I feel this isn't any different for Digg if it expanded to other categories. I still maintain though, they should make non tech categories selectable though.
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no digg. Geek is Geek - if i wanted everything I'd go to fark.com
- groverallnight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, Digg is trying to be a non-crap version of Digg where people can post cool stories and not get bitched at by a bunch of 14-year-old tech purists because the story was more "science" than "tech."
- Sillybear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Expansion is neat, but you don't want to fall into the "Jack of all trades, Master of None" category.
- thetron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know. If the site was section off too into domains
Liek. tech.digg.com - for all ur tech and internet news
knitting.digg.com - for all things... Knitting - conigs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if this happens, Digg will undoubtedly get more users, so I suggest two things:
1.) move up the threshold for stories reaching the front page. There's alread problems with misleading or completely wrong headlines/write-ups and bad stories reaching the front. More users will mean more diggs for these stories.
2.) that we as users actually use the comment rating system. why even have Comment View Threshold if comments aren't rated. It would also be nice to know how many comments I can't see because of the threshold. - zyphbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think the site's specialty is tech related links. I don't wanna end up turning on diggnation and get 1 tech link, a stupid sport link, then something about stupid news (like Fark quality) would have be turning it off quickly. I'm not saying I don't like reading Fark every once in awhile, but when I want that kind of news, I will go there. It would also open up alot of possibilities that may not pay off, like alot of R and NC-17 based links like Fark has sometimes. (IE, NSFW: Not Safe for Work)
- Notdiggnation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a very bad move. To be successful you need to focus on one market and do it well. Google got big because they did one thing well for a long, long time. Same with Wikipedia. Please, please, please don't dilute the Digg brand with pointless line extentions. Is Slashdot going to broaden it's appeal? I doubt it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Also, make a checkbox at the top of the page that we can customize to add or get rid of topics of interest or of no interest to us. Whereas the digg.com page then pulls feeds from the now subdomained topics and looks at what we want to see individualy and filters it automatically. That was we can ignor the things we don't want to see, and see the ones we do.
I think these three ideas (including the subdoman idea) would be great to help purify the classification issue, so that tech is all tech all the time (because the community now would not only digg or not digg, but vote it's classification topic if we think it's wrong) or all sports all the time. Or, with the ability to customize the digg.com front page, a mix if we wish. Even then, for the real tech purists, tech.digg.com would be their homepage rather than just digg.com if they truely can't stand even seeing other topics as options. - Allanon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Opening up to all types of stories will invite the religion, political, and anti-war crowds and the front page will be filled with controversial stories not related to tech. If I wanted that type of news then I would go to CNN.com.
- Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Honestly I like this idea. I think what would make it better is if they allow you select whether you see non tech related diggs or not. Otherwise I'm all for this as it would allow dicussion of all interests, not just tech. Remember the world doesn't revolve around tech, tech revolves around the world. Tech can't exist with out the real world, so I think it's just as important to focus on the real world and discuss it as it ultimately leads to uses of tech and the creation of it.
- PrometheuZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great idea! If every post is successfully able to be neatly categorized under clearly defined topics then everyone will be happy in the end...the question is how well it'll be implemented without becoming a garbled mess. The people that only insist on tech-related content should be easily able to block any other content. If Digg can make that happen, then more power to them. No one would have a right to complain anymore.
- groverallnight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll never understand why people so vehemently oppose OPTIONS. Don't people like freedom, personalization, and choices?
There is no reason why the digg system shouldn't be expanded to include all types of news while allowing users to customize the front page of digg.com to display what types of news they want to receive.
Really, all you silly tech kids need to stop being so damned selfish and narrow-minded. You're all treating this expansion like it's happening on a traditional news site with editors and limited resources.
Well, wise up, turds! The people that post tech news now would still post tech news and the part of the site that you enjoy would still be strong...but digg would also be an equally good place to visit for everyone that wants some 'other' interesting news. - F1R3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not enthusiastic, but it all depends on how its handled, I personally like it the way it is.. and I imagine if it ends up sucking, people will complain, and things will get fixed..
- overclocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So Digg justs want to be a mainstream news aggregation service, so it can attract more advertisers in the end (Digg.com will not always be supported by Google Adsense ads).
- fighto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0your all lame! This will be awesome. Thats the problem I always had with digg, I always wanted MORE!
- Lynxpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
Is Albrecht related to the President of HBO? - motorbikematt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In the article, CEO Jay Adelson says :"That is, it's much faster. If you're looking for fresh data, current data, or very dynamic data, a search engine relies on the crawling technology, an editorial board takes days to process and publish."
Yeah, tell that to the guys who submitted the OLED story, the URI Gellar story, the Steve Wozniak story, the fake NASA to Firefox story, the NSAkey story, etc...
This site is not entirely about Freshness and not entirely about news. I am NOT poopooing Digg, I think it rocks, but the leadership must be clear when discussing it's GOALS and the obvious REALITY: that you are NOT in control...the DIGGERS are, and you need to cater to what WE are doing.
If not, you'll become the next Slashdot... - zforrester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0right on digg! it'll be nice to get some non-tech news here and there
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I’ve always wondered why Adelson got to be CEO? I mean, what did he contribute to digg.com? Am I missing something?
If Kevin Rose was just going to dub anyone CEO, it should have been Albrecht, he would have made a kick-ass CEO. - jruckman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0let me summarize the points made above:
"awesome! horrible!" - jla1987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've heard a lot of ppl say they'd like to see more than just a tech Digg site. I say if they can pull it off, then do it. There are plenty of subjects that could use a digg-style site.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds good.
I've pretty much completely ditched Slashdot.
A modern hierarchical thread system would make this place much better. - durerca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For people who want digg to remain the way it is, according to Dan's explanation, they can just change their bookmarks to technology.digg.com and people like me can have that one alongside politics.digg.com and porn.digg.com. Sounds great.
- overkill_usa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg is onto something really big with this move - if you cannot see that now, just wait and see how wrong you can be.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0:o)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0danhuard- Having a subdomain based category system by itself could be a disaster as it could dilute your users, and also build walls for users to discover other things of interest, like tech, if all they know is the sports section.
I propose that you give us even more voting power in the following way: Create the most common categories spoken about tech, sports, politics, money, recycle bin, etc. Keep it to 5-8 main topics so the list isn't huge. These topics would be tied to a subdomain as you propose. But, when a user submits a digg, they now select a topic and a subtopic (if one matches). Here is where the extra voting power comes in, when one goes to view the diggs comments section, or if you clicked the digg, saw it's content, and notice that it would be a better link if classified under a different topic, we go into the comment section and there will be a hot or not style radio selector under the digg, with all of the 5-8 topics listed rather than a 1-10 rating. We can then collectively vote where it SHOULD be located, but also collectively vote it into the new recycle bin that you guys talk about implementing if frankly the link sucks, or shouldn't be on any of the websites. (like adult content, or hate mongering, etc.) - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0About time.. not that there isn't already alot of articles non-tech related..
- Danathar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They need to fix the problems with stories dissapearing off the bottom of the main page never to return.....and of the "10 lame votes" that gets rid of a story before they expand. I can barely keep up with digg the stories move so fast.
- allen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm looking forward to this. Recently, it seems as though the site has been dominated by CSS design techniques, What is AJAX? and other oft-repeated topics. I like the idea of subscribing to the "digg newspaper" and seeing a wide range of topics. Those of you who only want tech news and nothing else are really limiting yourselves to the outside world. And frankly, there's a lot of stories that are pushing the connection to tech news that are making the front page.
So now we'll have options to better categorize stuff and digg everything that we want. And if it's only tech, well then, you'll probably be able to only see tech. - Wolfman~K, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0digg is doable in multiple formats, as long as they let separate people handle it. Don't' take from the tech staff to make the movies section etc.... not that there is much to take... I mean hey... we are the staff.
- drysz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds good. Especially if it helps keep the feeds "pure".
Ok all you cross posters... back into the closet! :) - JingJang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Excellent! I have plenty of friends who are not into the tech-news scene but they are really intrigued by the way Digg works. Honestly, I'd love a local news version of Digg. Bring it on - but do listen to the masses. If the tech-side is diluted - fix it.
- celeb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Adelson noted, however, that Digg was profitable before the capital came rolling in; the site was monetized entirely by a set of Google AdSense units."
Awesome - siouxmoux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg.com CEO Jay Adelson what happen to Kevin Rose, did he sold out.
- Portfolioso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I dont like this...
If they plan to expand, digg should have subdomains... Like news.digg.com sports.digg.com etc..
I don't want sports stories and government issues on the fron page of Digg where I come for tech news. - FelixSchmelix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0At the risk of sounding elitist, digg.com had higher quality content when fewer people used it. It is almost as bad as slashdot these days...
- exConn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't understand the whiners...
After the change, just go to tech.digg.com (or however they implement it) and you'll have the same digg you always had...
What's the problem?
Personally, I love the idea of branching out... - Metal_Guru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would like to have Digg remain tech (and I think it can co-exist with science). I wouldn't like to have Digg become so diluted. Sports, celebs, knitting on Digg? Start some other site for that. I agree with those that say it should do one thing, and do it good (althoug it WOULD be great to remove none tech news from my tech feed).
But if these new sections are inserted, at least let me make it easy to keep them out of my feed. - thotpoizn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 It sounds like a great move to me. I am really looking forward to seeing interesting new category ideas being discussed and possibly added based on user input. I would also love to see a customized front page - containing only the categories *I* want to see.
That would also let the aforementioned 14 year old purists keep their "classic" view and quit bitching and moaning... :) - JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0rather than any of that, simply have a checklist for users, types of stories they want they check and it appears as it would on digg.com now... that would work.
The other thing they could do is add profiles within users accounts so they could have tabs... "Everything", "Geek stuff", "News & Sports" etc so each profile can be customized to a specific grouping of topics chosen by the user... maybe Digg can hire me and I'll design it for them! ;) hehe - stmico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is just a dupe of the video interview of Jay Adelson that was posted a few days ago. It's pretty a straight dictation of a video that's already been on digg.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Portfolioso, can you read?
- rekrapt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Our technology and science is shaped by our culture. This is a good thing. *dugg*
- theDrizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who didnt see a big expansion coming...why else would they have created the terms of use. they are already to make that attempt at filtering out garbage stories and what not.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"If you go to your profile there is a button to undigg a story."
Sorry, I meant undigg something I haven't dugg. I know about the Report Problem thing too, but I really want to see the digg number go down. I've seen the Report Problem thing work, but I'd like to see the number go down ;) - lysdexic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think Digg is a fantastic way to share news stories. I migrated here after growing tired of the snotty attitude at Boing Boing and I haven't gone back there since. Can't wait to see more broad categories...
- sirplus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0my my, people do care. nothing will ever stay the same for long. why get all upset? only thing i hope to see is a high level of civility amongst users. really, flamers and whiners have no place in a good discussion. we shall see :)
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