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- stevesearer, on 10/11/2007, -30/+925This is why I love Digg. Thanks for listening to us :)
- benman587, on 10/11/2007, -29/+398When I digg down a comment, please don't automatically shrink it. I may still want to read the replies.
- macinjosh, on 10/11/2007, -21/+349I say remove the thread lines, 3 thread levels and no more unnecessary animations.
- oper8r00, on 10/11/2007, -25/+257Hurray for Kevin! I love sites that listen to their users and really take their comments seriously (sometimes).
- HillerMylife, on 07/24/2008, -16/+178Yes, please, please remove the thread lines. They're ugly as sin.
- noodlez, on 10/11/2007, -3/+135don't know how viable this would be, but i think that digg should have a test server associated with labs where people can go to check out changes and give feedback before they go live on the main page and the masses start firing off irate blog posts about them and threaten to ditch digg for reddit or whatever.
just a thought. - noreturn, on 10/11/2007, -6/+125I think not forcing people to have to click several times to show all the comments (i.e. don't show them 50 comments at a time, not so much the expanded tree thing) would also be helpful. That should be an option.
Also, the whole tree under a comment being buried when you just wanted to digg down a single comment is frustrating.
Oh, and the reply links are all effed in the fully expanded tree view. - Pac56, on 10/11/2007, -3/+120I'm for removing the thread lines as well. The replies being indented will be enough to know where it goes.
- CraigCarlyle, on 10/11/2007, -5/+115I know a lot of people are going to want something different, so how about implementing different styles? Some users want the old style, some want the new style, and some still want something different?
And Kevin, to answer your questions.. in my opinion:
2-3 Thread Levels
Please remove the thread lines
And if it's not too much trouble, I like the style of the old buttons better :) - DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -6/+109One important tidbit about them listening though. They would have listened to calm rational criticism as well. Lots of people acted like some real jackasses.
Now everyone's rejoicing like they've waited an eternity for this day to come. It's been less than 24 hours. Calm down. - adholden, on 10/11/2007, -3/+103i just have a small request--when i see on my homepage that some of my friends have commented on something, and then i click to see what stories they commented on, it's difficult to scroll through or search to find what they said. maybe b/c it's buried in a reply to a reply etc etc. perhaps if one of my friends commented, or dug a comment, even if it's a reply, maybe that could be noted in the bar above the original comment, so that i can find it easily. or maybe have a change in color to that particular thread or something. i'm not a computer expert by any means....was just something i was noticing when i couldn't find what a friend of mine had said about a story they'd commented on.
otherwise, i happen to like the general theory behind this new change in comment systems. good luck fixing bugs and modifying things! - autoatsakiklis, on 10/11/2007, -10/+107Old comment system with 3-5 thread levels would be fine :)
- borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -4/+93ok i just buried scott1's comment but now I want to read it again. Every time I click "show comment" it is displayed for about half a second and then goes away. This I don't like
- laddr, on 10/11/2007, -2/+871) We don't need a reply box to expand by default under each thread when I expand it, if I want to reply let me hit the reply button
2) No thread lines, they dont add value
3) Up to 4 or 5 nested threads
4) Allow expansion setting on your profile
5) Each thread should have an easy to find reply button right there no matter how many current replys there are
6) Dont bury replys to buried comments if they are dugg up - Otto, on 10/11/2007, -6/+90Agreed. Major things that need to be done immediately:
1. Get rid of the ugly. Put the CSS back to make the comments look the way they used to be. The lines and boxy look is extremely distracting and make it difficult to visually separate the comment text from the controls around it.
2. If I digg down a comment, I'm not wanting to hide all the replies to that comment immediately. That's the dumbest thing they could make the thing do. Digg down means hide *only* that comment, not all its children.
The number of levels of threading is irrelevant. It can be 3 or 5 or whatever works visually.
Similarly, the speed of the animation is also irrelevant. It's fast enough.
The problem is that the behavior is *extremely annoying*. That should be the primary focus of the fixes.
Also, I would suggest disabling it until you fix it. The comments are virtually unusable at present. It takes greasemonkey scripts to make them even *readable*. - rhondapiper, on 10/11/2007, -3/+67Stop logging me out/ending my session.
Don't bury good comments under dugg down ones.
Don't do that lame link at the bottom of the page to view more comments- it vanishes when you refresh and then you have to reopen all over again- pages would be better. That link is crazily irritating.
Make expand all actually expand all- it's only expanding the first 50. Once it's fixed, make it a selectable user preference, not just a link you have to click at the beginning of every thread.
Get rid of that animation, all it causes is anger somehow.
Ditch the thread lines and the huge amount of whitespace sureounding 'Reply to this comment"- move that link to the right. - Djerrid, on 10/11/2007, -1/+58I wish democratic governments worked like this. "Hi. We just rolled out our new Social Security changes yesterday and found that most people didn't like it. Here are the changes we've just made and are making to fix that. And are there any other changes you'd like to see?"
- daworld, on 10/11/2007, -12/+68I refuse to comment on Digg until the comment system changes back to it's old self...
EDIT: *****.... - undergrace, on 10/11/2007, -22/+76Damn - I just went to submit this and saw I was beaten by 10 minutes! Oh Kevin Rose, you sneaky bastard!
- indraneel24, on 10/11/2007, -3/+57seeing as how he wrote it, i think he'd have the advantage.
- flernk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+50Burying replies under buried comments defeats the purpose of comment conversations. Some of the best, most intelligent dialog I've read on digg started with a comment that was eventually buried.
- ordep, on 10/11/2007, -13/+56People need to chill the ***** out.
- laserob, on 10/11/2007, -8/+49Agree. And how about using shades of color to correspond with how many "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" each comments gets. More thumbs up, more green (but not too much). More thumbs down, shades of red. Don't shade the entire bar, just the right side and lightly fade. Just a thought. Peace.
- albrad84, on 10/11/2007, -3/+44- Put the 'Reply to this comment' up in the blue bar so it takes up less space
- Make the Add Your Comment text box at the bottom of the page much, much larger
- The thumbs up/down buttons look crappy
- Put the hide/view replies link to the side of comments rather than above in order to save space and to get rid of those ugly boxes
- Allow us to expand all by default - anaesthetica, on 10/11/2007, -3/+43I agree, the old style (coloring, thumb icons) is much better. I would support more thread levels though -- I see nothing wrong with 5 thread levels. Getting rid of the dark-blue thread box/lines would be a great improvement as far as reducing clutter.
Essentially, the ideal system would look just like the old system (everything expanded, high dugg comments exposed), but with 5 level threading. - TheUnashamed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+39I think the "View X replies" button should still be there after you bury a comment.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -16/+52Change the color to purple.
And make all the text run right to left. - abusive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+43Thread-lining = bad
5 thread level should be fine. - SonicRush, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35Maybe the threads should be color-coded? Like top level is blue, replies are green, replies to greed are red, etc. I don't know I'm just throwing ideas out there.
I would also like it if it showed how many diggs up and diggs down a comment has gotten, instead of just showing the overall sum.
Or what if the diggs for comments were taken away entirely. Maybe that would encourage more intelligent conversation instead of making the comments a popularity and stupid-joke contest. Although I admit that is an integral part of digg. - zouhair, on 10/11/2007, -10/+43WTF when you digg down comment all the replies, even the good one gets hidded too
get back to the last system less hassle on everybody
and set a Beta Site where you can make all the test you want FOR GOD'S SAKE - kris33, on 10/11/2007, -6/+39Agree! It is really irritation to expand the thread, show the buried comment, digg down the buried comment and have to expand it again to read the replies.
- zouhair, on 10/11/2007, -2/+31Actually the old system is good, it shrinks only the comment not the whole replies
- KrazyA1pha, on 10/11/2007, -2/+31There is no option to view replies for comments that are buried, short of first expanding the comment. This causes problems for a lot of us, I believe.
- PasteEater, on 10/11/2007, -4/+33And for that matter, don't hide replies to buried comments that have been dugg up. For instance, the very first comment on this page is buried, but the replies have not been (at the time of this writing). I would not have even known that the replies were there if I hadn't shown the buried comment. And this is *after* clicking the Expand All button (or whatever it's called) to show all comments.
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28I hope they get rid of the thread header too: "Hide this"/"Expand this"; it's an absolute eyesore.
Keep the old style, increase the threading depth to, say 5. Bury comments below -threshold, _DON'T_ bury replies if they are above the threshold. Leave the [show comment] link in place for buried comments.
It's not all that hard. - MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28can we have 121 seconds to edit. I just can't always make it in time
- benman587, on 10/11/2007, -3/+30And faster load times
- NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -11/+38In the meantime, can we un-roll out the new system?
- lhnz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29On addition to what you have asked for, these changes I would like:
1. Change back to the old look, so that it looks similar to this: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/10099
but of course with ability to reply to each comment, and not just the one at the endd.
Therefore remove the thread lines and white space! And don't always show a reply box unless you have clicked on "Reply to this comment".
2. Allow the same ammount of threading you have allowed right now.
3. When somebody clicks on "View x replies" then load up all of the next replies apart from those below a certain threshold. Assume that the user clicking on "view x replies" shows his interest in the conversation, and don't make him keep clicking again and again and again.
I think some of the most highly rated comments should already be visible to be honest!
4. If a comment has been dugg down but it's reply has been dugg up, don't hide the reply as well as the comment! It's probably worth reading!
Thankyou! - gutistg, on 10/11/2007, -5/+31Your comment is now a father.
- bobpaul, on 10/11/2007, -7/+33****** 5 levels. Having a limit on the levels was the major problem last time around. There should be NO limit on the number of reply levels, less we get stuck with more @username crap.
*Comments that are above a certain dugg threshold should not be hidden when collapsed. Threshold should be a user setting. (Is this what he meant by comment view options?)
*One should be able to expand a given THREAD tree, not just the entire comment tree. Loading all comments at once can take forever. Right now I only care about the discussion I'm reading. When I move to the next discussion, I'll read expand that thread.
*Reply notification would also be nice. - ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -1/+27@Sonic and Zagger:
No system is perfect. However, the implementation that went live does not seem to have been tested by the community in a "beta"...which would have made sense. If slashdot went live with their new interface without testing, it would have been reamed by the users...it took a good month or two to get it released in a final version. Most diggers want the ability to have the comments look the way they want it to...so, digg should provide a clean, simple, layout and offer tons of OPTIONAL tweaks to the layout. That would make everyone happy, IMHO. - returnofajedi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+26You may have broken the space/time continuum incorporated into digg's website ;)
- bradpurchase, on 06/12/2008, -2/+26I think it's really great that Digg actually listens to its users. A lot of sites wouldn't have even bothered to make the change, but I guess that's the difference.
I would suggest getting rid of the unnecessary animations, and even having the thread lines as an option (after all, some people are used to thread lines, some aren't). :) - CrackHappy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24Agreed - thread lines and unnecessary animations don't actually help anything. I would also say that a definitive thread level threshold is necessary. I vote for 5. One other thing, which is enabling more choice in preference of displaying comments. i.e. It will auto expand to the full levels, but doesn't show those that are under your limit, i.e. nothing under -10 or whatever that might be that you set globally as a preference.
- daleeburg, on 10/11/2007, -3/+253-5 thread levels, and auto expand that expands the comments under the buried comments also, and considerably faster load times. Screw the lines, used indents.
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24I think that just because a comment is burried, doesn't mean the comments under it should be as well, so the button that says "view # replies" shouldn't disappear.
- IvanB, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23"Agree. And how about using shades of color to correspond with how many "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" each comments gets. More thumbs up, more green (but not too much). More thumbs down, shades of red. Don't shade the entire bar, just the right side and lightly fade. Just a thought. Peace."
A green shade is already used to mark a comment that has been dugg up by a friend. - NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23I'd use it in a heartbeat. Great idea.
- iamtad, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21When you view reply, it shows up in a box - see that blue line to the left of this? That's it. I think its ugly too.
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