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- spybreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Let's compare some headlines on their editorial quality:
"VPN flaw threatens the Internet" Tabloid journalism
"VPN Flaw Allows Denial of Service" Objective journalism
"Ubuntu ToGo - Mobile linux (I mean really mobile)" Just bad compared to:
"Taking Linux On The Road With Ubuntu" Good journalistic headline
"Google as evidence" Huh? What?
"Google Searches Used in Murder Trial?" Interesting.. *clickety*
Digg has it's place.. as a quick and dirty news engine. I like it. But it'd be sad if Digg replaced Slashdot. Both have their place. - Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The problem with Digg these days is the "stupid people". There are far too many of them that seem to read just part of an article thats posted to Digg, just enough so they can make a comment on here to try to rile people up. It started out as a great site...
And why do people keep comparing it to Slashdot? The two sites really aren't "competing sites". And you notice you only see people posting articles on Digg about how Digg is better than Slashdot, then the comments get filled with a bunch of 12 year olds making comments about how Slashdot sucks... you don't see this on Slashdot. Since people have linked to Blogs talking about how "Digg is better", you could easily set up a Blog that talks about why Slashdot is better and link to it from Slashdot IF they gave a *****... - Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Hi ... new user here with some "objective" comments on Digg.
I found Digg through the linked Wired article. I really like the concept, but it isn't perfect. Primarily, I think Digg suffers from some of the same problems as Fark.com. That being a flat comment layout (nested or threaded is much better), and no comment moderation.
The thing I like about Slashdot is that I can raise my comment threshold and virtually all of the trolling and off-topic posts fall off the board.
With Digg ... as with Fark ... I have to wade through the trolls to find any meaty comments to read.
That said, I like the model Digg represents where the site users themselves decide what stories are "interesting" enough to make it to the home page, rather than a handful of moderators or editors "greenlighting" articles.
Digg is a new player on the block, with a solid concept. I think by incorporating a few of the best features offered by some of the other "News Blog" sites (slashdot, fark, etc...) it really could become the dominant player. (Ok, maybe Fark doesn't have much to offer to Digg, but they are worth watching) - spybreak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I just don't get all the /. bashing.
Has anyone ever noticed the comments on /. are much more interesting, smarter and extensive?
It's a different kind of website.
Digg is for people who have no life and need to check the tech news 5x a day.
Slashdot is for people who go there one time a day, like reading a good news paper.
Anyway, I really have no life, so I visit both alot. - peteresch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Until Digg can stand on its own without being compared to slashdot it will continue to be second place.
- buro9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I really dislike reading gloating stories on Digg. Sites should stand or fall by the quality of content too, not solely their design.
Both sites have their place. And you STILL find the most insightful and interesting information in Slashdot comments. Digg comments have yet to mature into a really usable and valuable addition to Digg.
I love the way that the Digg spell checker doesn't know of the word Digg btw. - lskywalker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Digg needs to let go of the inferiority complex and not care about Slashdot. They have two completely different styles, and many readers bounce between them.
- Lacero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Digg.com has got to do something about the commenting system. It sucks worst than Slashdot.
- ksgant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Digg would be much better, and I would come here more often if they had threaded comments. I mean, the comments on this now is all over the place, you can't really comment on another comment because it may be 10 or 15 messages above and lost in the sea of other crap.
Thread the messages! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Bullcrap. It's not like Coke or Pepsi. People go to both. They're unique, with varying content.
- TylerWeir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3spybreak++
Surfing Slashdot with the comment moderation set to 5 is a joy. The flat style of commenting on digg leads to a lot of useless short comments.
I think digg has done a great service to bring Slashdot back to reality. Now that there's a competitor, they'll have to start innovating. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There's plenty of room for both sites considering they have various subjects that they exclusively cover. Besides, the quality of COMMENTS at Digg on each article by no means eclipses what you find over at Slashdot.
- ReyBrujo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4From http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69599,00.html :
"A version 2.0 of Digg was launched this summer, borrowing features from social-software services like del.icio.us and adding broadcast immediacy through a page featuring a rolling list of live news links, appearing on the site in real time as they are posted by readers."
I didn't see any fanboy saying "Digg stole from del.icio.us!" as I saw when some site borrowed some features from Digg.
And 90% here are fanboys, while in Slashdot there is a broader market, with engineers, computer nerds and scientists, here there are only nerds. And Kevin's boot lickers. Plenty of them.
Digg is, in three words, an offtopic forum. Good to pass by and have a laugh, but not worth the time. - riffermike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I vote for "diggrading", like in "diggrading the site's performance."
- shaurz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Diggdotting indeed. Maybe we could call it "grave-diggging".
- keng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And, why does digg have to "bury" /. to be a good website? Can't they both just be good websites?
- tonyellard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have to agree with the "stupid folks" assessment of digg. Although I love digg, and turn to it far more often than I do slashdot, at least with slashdot I don't have to worry about stories like "Kevin Rose can Fellate Himself", and other such gems. It seems like there is less crap to dig (sorry for the pun) through at slashdot, though the variety and sheer volume of digg wins out every time. I still use both and have both RSS feeds on my google personalized home. If either one has something interesting to say, I'll listen.
- masterzora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@veamon
"You mean no more debates as to why Linux is better than Windows, or vice versa? What will I do?"
Isn't it obvious? You get into debates as to why Macs are better than PCs, or vice versa, on Digg!
Okay, guys, I'm sorry, but there's one reason that Digg can *never* come close to Slashdot like it is: People on Digg don't understand the concept of *technology news*. They think that a Flash cartoon is technology news because "it is news to me"! They think that a video is technology because there's a camera involved! Until Digg actually understands what technology news is, how could it *possibly* be better than /.?
Oh, and enough with the "Digg effect" or "burying" or whatever. It's the Slashdot Effect or unintentional DDoS. The site that causes it doesn't change that fact. - bluemech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I mainly use Digg because I can't get the slashdot at school. Slashdot's comments are exponetially better, digg has far too many stupid, useless comments. It needs more moderation. Plus Digg gets a lot of stupid links for 3 year old news stories, links to some retard's blog that may or may not link to something relevant, or just plain irrelevant news (zomg lego!!!).
- mighty_mouth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I vote for "grave-digging" instead of "diggdotting"
What worries me is the according to http://diggvsdot.com/, /. is currently ahead by 5 points! - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There have been a couple of stories like this, including one that showed the comparitive traffic on Digg and /. I got to both, but generally like Digg a bit more. However, I am often befuddled at how some stories seem to jump to the front page, and others (with more diggs) don't. So we get some weird stuff, like Diggnation basically missing out on the biggest tech story, maybe of the year (Sony DRM) in favor of other random crap.
And I personally, hate the branched structure of /. comments.
The average folks that come to the sites are diferent:
/. Evil Unix server admins. Or people that act like them.
Digg Mac Fanboys. - winner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Investors are going to be pissed once they realize that the majority of the digg growth is represented by kids who are looking for tips on how to get stuff for free and opportunities to slam any company that wants you to pay for their product.
- Greg-J, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I want to know who the hell told /. people liked to read italics.
- designergc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know, but just the design of Slashdot is enough to turn me away. Then there's the stories- I guess I'm more of a tabloid news reader then, since I usually only find 1 or 2 stories a month on Slashdot that are interesting to me.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i hope not, the slashdot comments are incredibly funny.
- MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1digg :: slashdot
dugg :: slashdotted - zweizweifunf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Oh----my----Freakin----Head----Is----Going---To-----Explode!!!!!!!!
Enough with the slashbashing! It only proves the point that diggers are fuzzy cheeked slashdot wannabes.
There have been too many articles on this. It's overblown, and unnecessary.
GROW UP!"
seconded - tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Problem with Digg. Too many kids using the site.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Digg should ban users with 0 stories on frontpage from commenting."
That is a GREAT idea! Or at least give users the option to only see comments by people with >1 story on the homepage. - Harlequn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0never got into slashdot, so don't really know what it's about. more and more I go to digg for my tech news every day.
- SuidAfrikaner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Scuse me folks, the proper term for when a server goes down because of a digg is either "dugg down" (as in "shot down") or "dugged down"
- TomJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow . . . digg v /. overload. Can we mix in some OS strife, to complete the feel?
- nicheplayer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0NEVAR!
- macapollox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hallelujah!!!
- B111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like certain aspects of Digg A LOT, but Slashdotcomments are often funnier, and more insightful. I like the "digging" of stories, but I think a /. style of moderating is in order.
- cesartorres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am so glad to see Slashdot getting a run for their money! I love their site, but it's great to have another player with comprehensive coverage.
- Gardenhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyway, I think that digg and slashdot have their own thing going on. I really don't mind the slashdot design either. It's straight and to the point. They confirm their stories before posting too. They wait on Apple news and the such until they can confirm it. Anyway, they both have their place. They're one of the four rss feeds on my google homepage. The others are engadget and tuaw (the unofficial apple weblog). Yeeeep.
- MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Dirk DIGGlering" a server...as in throwing the long, hard one. haha.
This could also be shortened to "Dirking" a server.
Man I'm in a weird mood this morning. - Kmfan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0 I don't even know the other site. But it is obvious how popular Digg has become.
- mutt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I propose that everybody still calls it slashdotting.. This phenomenon was invented by Slashdot, and the inventor should be remembered for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect - vlsi0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0although you can visit both,
Digg > Slashdot
But each has better things about them.. - jakv5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Untill scooop defeats both....yeah right:
http://digg.com/links/Ebay_Netscape_founders_Challenge_Digg.com - nanoguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The problem with Digg is that the way to get on the front page is to write some sensationalistic headline that has nothing to do with the story. For example "No more $.99 songs iTunes" which is clearly false. Digg is media sensationalism with an internet spin.
- rydawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0compare the article list from slashdot to that of digg.
Besides being five times fewer of them, articles on slashdot contain much more technically adept information (indicating very experienced posters), and industry-specific info. They also have cool things pop up here and there. It's all usually very intelligent and relevant, if a bit slow coming at times.
Digg has an overflow of 'news' articles including the latest digital camera review, the latest engadget.com review, One of a million Sony Root Kit articles, and so on. This is because there is no filtering or editing like on slashdot (which raises another question: digg and /. are different types of sites. Why do we persist in comparing them? It's like comparing apples and oranges.) Of course the major advantage is that users are directly involved with what gets posted on digg. Anyway, I said that to say that the articles posted on Digg reflect a younger, less experienced generation of geeks (hence the 'fuzzy cheeked' statement)
Now, since we keep comparing ourselves to slashdot, we are implying that we consider slashdot to be desirable, and we want to have the same, if not better status than it. Hence, the 'wannabe' statement.
Kapeesh grimdotdotdot(0)?
Don't get me wrong. I love both sites, and use both. I just wish we'd stop comparing them and get on with our lives....oh wait... :P - masterzora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@grimdotdotdot:
If they weren't "fuzzy cheeked slashdot wannabes", they wouldn't be comparing Digg to Slashdot every 5 minutes. Notice how Slashdot has never once put up anything like that. - shovel10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can we make a category, dig fan posts and just leave the maximum number of frontpage posts relating to either of them to 1. I really get tired of this we have bigger numbers thus we count more. The first post competition is a interesting one, however, could we add 2 more sites to make it comprehensive? Also leaving out wikipedia sound really lame too.. If I had to place my bets...
ps. AGAIN, could this hailed brilliant social software become 100x faster to load without stupid avatars (looks at my friends(0) and smiles) - Live4Soccer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Digg+
(duh) - cfarivar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wired magazine is not the same thing as Wired News, just fyi. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_magazine
Disclosure: I write for both publications. - rydawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh----my----Freakin----Head----Is----Going---To-----Explode!!!!!!!!
Enough with the slashbashing! It only proves the point that diggers are fuzzy cheeked slashdot wannabes.
There have been too many articles on this. It's overblown, and unnecessary.
GROW UP! - Gardenhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0chriskzoo, He tried to stay objective about it. He didn't want everyone digging digg because he ran it. He wanted the site to stand on its own. Hell, he still does.
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