What is Digg?81 Comments
- bash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3good things about slashdot:
- less dupes
- REALLY insightful comments are the only ones shown (and they are very good)
bad things about slashdot:
- doesnt put the most interesting stories on the front page
- has an infamous troll culture
that said though, slashdot is still #1. digg has a long way to go before it can slam a major server to the ground. - covaro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I wonder if this will help people who submit their site with crap on it."
Doubtful, people will always be self promoting ego hounds. Anything that a person can do to get themselves more attention, they will do it. What does this mean? Well, people will always Digg their own blog, or a site they own, and sometimes try to cover it up by saying "my friend's site" or "I found this cool site".
People are social animals and will do almost anything for general acceptance. - ph3rny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3one of the reasons for no ad clicks are a good percentage more of digg users use firefox + adblock
he shoulda written in about the browser percentages - psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Oh, and guys, stop referring to the Digg Effect. No matter what site causes it, it's still the Slashdot Effect, just at a different site. Or, better yet, it's an unintentional DDOS if you don't like "Slashdot Effect". But Digg seriously does not have its own effect.
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Precisely. In this respect, a number of Digg users are conceited fanboys who are jumping the gun, demanding an amount of fame for Digg which it hasn't yet earned. - XDataBurn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2'I'd give my left ovary to be slashdotted or dugg or whatever.'
Yet you leave no link here for us to check out, and 83% of us are at work and bored enough to check out almost anything.
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-XData - bivouac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It is definitely abused, see the wikipedia entry for 'slashdot trolls'.
Regarding the comments above, I couldn't agree more. I hope this is a turning point at this site.
It is the democratic ranking that makes digg so innovative. I like digg more than slashdot for this reason alone, but without active and thoughtful participation, the site loses a lot of its potential. - bivouac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As they make improvements, Kevin and the Girl (Diggnation, that is) should emphasize how to report lame stories. Also, I'd like to know the logic behind how a story is promoted. Does anyone know the impact of reporting a story as lame? Does it mean that the story will be reviewed for possible removal, and if not removed does being reported as lame affect a stories ranking at all?
Kevin? The Girl? (you know I'm kidding you Alex) - qwertygirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd give my left ovary to be slashdotted or dugg or whatever.
- qwertygirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If people will listen, it should keep people from submitting crap.
Digg traffic doesn't equal page clicks. Digg traffic = major bandwidth usage.
Die. Sploggers. Die. - 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> macharborguy originally wrote: "I am not,have not and will never be a slashdot user."
> chango_family replied: "So, Senator McCarthy, what you are saying is that youve never went to Slashdot yet you feel qualified to comment on it? Priceless."
At least this person is being honest even if they are misguided. How many times have you read anti-Windows diatribes or anti-Macintosh fulminations or anti-Anything_Else tirades and you just know that the source of the whining has never used the hardware/software/other that they are bitching about? - chopcow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's what I feel is going on. This site has gained so much popularity, that most of the members are now non-techie.
So you have tons of non-techie members digging sites that are fun and interesting, regardless of whether they are tech related or not.
Then you have the techie members looking confused and saying "Why is this on the front page?" or "Why is this still getting Diggs?"
This is just based on my observation though. - Stobes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This guy is doing exactly what he is saying you shouldn't do.
- psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Something more relevant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlashDot_Effect - xeyr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1less dupes? What Slashdot do you read?
- strangeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@the people who ask "why don't they dig me?"
Because you content is not hot and fancy. People might have seen it somewhere else, already or just don't like it.
On the other hand.. why would you want to get dugg? If you produce good content people read/consume it anway. No matter if it appears on digg.com, or not. The only good thing I got out of digg, was that I was forced to optimize my site and serve most of my stuff as static instead of dynamic pages. Well.. plus I can now enjoy digg.com myself because I initially found out about it by going through my referrer statistics ;) - MacHarborGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Not true, cus:
- They are the same users.
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+digg"
Not true, because:
- I am not,have not and will never be a slashdot user. And though I am the exception, not the rule, I can only bet that there are alot more exceptions out there.
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+digg - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The first point about 'Digg users dont click ads' needs expanding upon. Most often, advertisers are more concerned about you *seeing* their ad rather than you clicking it. A 0.5% click through rate is considered 'good' - yes, just 0.5%, even for a site like slashdot, or any other big site you care to think of.
What i'm trying to say is that big sites (with proper ad deals) don't need you to click their ads for them to benefit.
It's the smaller sites that are affected by people 'not clicking ads' as they are paid per click, not per person seeing the ad.
:) - masterzora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@bivouac:
Sorry, it ain't democratic yet. Not unti they institute a "negative digg" or "bury" option.
Besides, the democracy only works if people use it correctly, and that just isn't happening. - masterzora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@bivouac:
Of course there's potential. We proved that when this site was still just a fledgling and everybody here came directly from kevinrose.com and people actually posted technology news (novel concept!). It worked beautifully. In fact, it started going downhill as we added members, but it was when we got to Digg 2.0 that I think we really lost Digg.
But, yes, the potential is limitless. - Mark_H, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://digg.com/users/MRSA/submitted
Most stories he's submitted to go tech-recipes.com
Suspicious? I think so. If it's really that bad for his bandwidth, why would he keep doing it? - jasonsbytes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was on the front page of digg once and made about $25 extra dollars on ads that week at a cost of a few hundred in bandwidth... Hmmm :|
- robotplague, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought that was pretty informative, interesting tidbits. Dugg.
- KevinJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wonderful submission. Very informative and analytical.
- rc_collins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"you are wasting your time trying to make a fast buck" ... Says the person with no hard numbers to prove anything.
For all we know he just wants less competion in getting to the front page and thus making more easy $ for himself.
--dan - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Slashdot's moderation points system is pretty genius I'd have to say.
Is it ever abused?
It might be a pretty good way to do Digg stories themselves. Sure, let all users "save" a story if they'd like, but they can only Digg a story and give it positive ratings if they have submitted good stories themselves and have earned the points. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Isn't this irony? Even if he didn't submit it, he knew talking about this would get him submitted to digg, and his ads would see more hits...
Crafty little bastard! Why didn't I think of it first? - MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@kwilliam71
I just did, read all comments. Yes nothing better to do. just waitng for ubuntu to download so i can try it out. - igraham, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As to the Digg Effect - Top Ten Things.... Thanks for the recipe. As to the other Digg "effect", it must be real as you are all on the site posting comments and spending the most valuable thing you have; time.
- JesusDeluxe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0great information, this story makes me happy
- masterzora, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@xeyr: "less dupes? What Slashdot do you read?"
Dude, Slashdot might have dupe problems, but they are NOWHERE near as bad as Digg's. I don't remember any time when /. posted Project Gutenberg once a day for 2 weeks, but I certainly remember something at least similar occuring on Digg.
Oh, from TFA:
"Digg users are more polite than slashdot visitors. I don't know if digg has less of a troll culture or not, but digg users do not wreck a place like slashdot members can."
The correct answer is that Digg doesn't have as many users as /. and has a much smaller footprint.
Oh, and guys, stop referring to the Digg Effect. No matter what site causes it, it's still the Slashdot Effect, just at a different site. Or, better yet, it's an unintentional DDOS if you don't like "Slashdot Effect". But Digg seriously does not have its own effect. - domainiac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0great article...i really appreciated that
- Stranger678, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just like the bullet that says "If you are on the front page, you will be flamed"
- staszko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1this guy is worried about an increase of 5,000 - 10,000 hits a day crashing his server? that's unlikely. even if he's serving media files, that's not exactly crushing traffic.
- bivouac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think that most people on digg do mostly digging and don't participate too much in conversation (perhaps because of functional limitations of the comments). On slashdot, when you read comments you get the impression that you are talking with experts, and it is common to learn something from another reader (obviously that isn't always true). That isn't to say that one site's base is smarter than the other, but I don't see the same level of participation here.
As he notes, most of the commenters here are just contrarians, present company excluded. - covaro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Fortunately, I run Microsoft IIS, which can handle any load I throw at it!"
Wow, talk about flamebait. - psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2one of the reasons for no ad clicks are a good percentage more of digg users use firefox + adblock
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Or they use an updated HOSTS file, which is more efficient. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The one point that I don't think is true here is the thing about Alexa toolbar. If it is true that Digg uers don't use Alexa, then why does Digg climb higher and higher in the Alexa ratings all the team, and is currently pretty far up there? That wouldn't happen if a sizable percentage of Digg users didn't use Alexa, right?
- heartborne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Digg users are more polite than slashdot visitors"
Not true, cus:
- They are the same users.
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+digg - eyesx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0More links about the slashdot effect
http://pchere.blogspot.com/2005/10/get-slashdotted-tips-and-tricks.html - anorris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Not true, cus:
- They are the same users.
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+digg"
Not true, because:
- I am not,have not and will never be a slashdot user. And though I am the exception, not the rule, I can only bet that there are alot more exceptions out there.
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+digg
I'm another exception, apparently. Can't stand slashdot for the trolls - kevmaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0How I managed to easily survive 2 frontpage diggs at the same time. An in depth article.
http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_easily_survive_the_Digg_effect - kevmaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0A complete guide how to protect yourself against the Digg effect
http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_easily_survive_the_Digg_effect - jshirley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0jellzey, I totally agree with you. It'd be nice if you could just reply to a comment, have it in the flat view like it is, but either auto-quote and/or when you mouse over/click on the comment it will pop up some sort of window with the original comment. Same thing if you click on a comment with replies.
- taherk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Good post. Never thought about digg effect before.. Some more webmaster articles are at
http://www.itdiscover.com/links/web_development/top_zines_and_blogs - jshirley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There are definitely people who have the whole idea of how to get onto the front page into a science. I would love to see it for my site (shameless plug: http://www.toeat.com) just to see how it handles the load. I want real people (preferably geeks) poking around and all that.
Screw the ad dollars and the google rank. If there was a digg category like, "Nifty and useless sites, please click through while bored" I think a lot of other sites would get the type of exposure the owners want.
Who knows... I posted about my site on here and 25 diggs. Either I have no clue how to do this right, didn't put "AJAX!!!" in the title, or my site really isn't that interesting. In any case, feedback is good, even if it is flames in the comments saying why the site sucks and why they would never visit. - binarypower, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0+digg
He described exactly what I do when I digg through links... block ads, dont travel outside of the main page on the site, and no comments on their sites.... I do, however, sometimes find a few sites that I check frequently now only after I first saw them on digg (still no ad clicks though). - bivouac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is so funny that we complain that the stories aren't techy enough. This site is only as techy as its users.
I just checked out the friend list feature and only now just realized that it puts a banner on the stories that your friends dugg. You can find people who like the same technical level as you.
Err, right, old news. - jellzey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0am i the only one that is frustrated with the commenting section, i would love to make a valid contradiction to a statement made somewhere in the far above comments, but unfortunately there is not a "quote function", and i do not want to repeat the entire comment mostly because i fear that repeating the statement would only add to the collective dumbness of the comment, so now i am tired of typing and i forgot what my comment was going to be....
- pasteler0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0off???
- bivouac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@masterzora:
True, but I'm sure you'd agree that there is potential. I'm not going to get all Albert Pacino on you, but I'd like to see this site do well (call it faith in the democratic process, or wishfull thinking). It must work fairly well because most of us check the stories every day.
I think you are right that without a minus digg, the only recourse is to flame everyone who dugg the story in comments. -
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