What is Digg?173 Comments
- garg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31I think i'm the only person on digg.com who rates comments.
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13So to sum up:
Digg needs:
* Better comment system & better commentors
* Better story summaries and spelling ;-)
Slashdot needs:
* Better editors / editor free content area
* Better looking pages
Alright, now go to your seperate corners, and lets see what you can do in round 2! - Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I think the reason that Digg's comment moderation system is under-utilized is because EVERYONE can moderate ... so nobody does.
At slashdot, mod-points are handed out stingily. And if you don't use them you lose them. This encourages people to use thier mod points when then have them ... and WISH they had mod-points when they don't ... which further enfoces that they will use them when they have them again.
Moderation is always a double-edge sword, but I think it has done /. more good than harm overall, and Digg seems like it could really use more effective moderation. (See Mr. GetInLine1 above...) ...oh yeah ... and threaded discussions. - NiX0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13>> I think i'm the only person on digg.com who rates comments.
This brings up an important point. ./ers are complaining about crappy moderation and stupid comments. I have to agree. It's not like we don't have the toools in our hands. Those of you reading comments really should help in moderation by rating comments. - manfesto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10And of course, ./'s comments are longer, better thought out, and more informative.
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Funny how the comments on Slashdot are several times more informative and interesting than Digg's for the same article.
The bigg flaw on digg is comment system, I think. More moderation is needed from users. And more moderation is needed for posting too -- so many poorly worded, mis-spelled articles get to front page. - NiX0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10/. has been around for much much longer than digg. Much like a fine wine, it's gotten better over time. As will digg. Right now, digg is still in it's infancy. A lot of diggers are still amused by age-old /.'isms. We also haven't really esablished any kind of Digg-Etequite (i.e. posting directly to articles instead of blogs).
All this nonsense of Digg taking out /. is silly. Those of you pleading that the two sites can coexist, well, you're correct. This is proven by those of us who DO visit both sites frequently. They both have their postives and negatives, but Digg does have the potential to be greater that it is now.
I am really anticipating what digg will be like after it matures. In the meantime, /. 'ers and Diggers alike, entertain me with your knowledge. - tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I totally agree with the moderation issues brought up several posts above. Just look at this page with 100+ comments--about 20% are valid and useful.
We need a better moderation system at Digg and Slashdot has a good working example. - spadin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I hate that there are 63 comments for this stupid site war, but when a good and important story comes out no one leaves a single comment.
- StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why do they have to compete?
It's not like they're charging you for this. It's not like Coke vs. Pepsi, with their exclusivity clauses. Just plug both into your RSS reader and get the best of both worlds.
Digg is more immediate and has a wider variety of stories. Slashdot has fewer dupes, exponentially higher quality summaries, a far better comment system (once you customize it a bit), and for the most part, a more mature, informed userbase. (I should note these are not absolute; slashdot has its share of idiots and misleading summaries, but nowhere near the quantity or magnitude of digg) - leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Personally, I like Digg over Slashdot because it gets rid of Slashdot's editor bias problem. You will almost never see articles dissing a Linux product or praising a Microsoft product over there, mostly because the editors all work for OSTG. I can't blame them, I guess.... When you work for a company that owns things like SourceForge and Linux.com, it's in your best interest to make Microsoft/Closed Source products look bad and Linux/Open Source products look good.
You will probably never have that problem here, however, since Digg's users get to choose the stories that make the front page. Sure... This often means that a few too many Apple stories make the headlines, but it seems to work well none the less. - quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, there needs to be a Karma factor, so people who get a few +s on their comments will start to get a +1 modifier right away. Anyone with a few -s would start at -1. This way would could keep our comment threshold at +1 all the time and keep the interesting content only.
- SquireCD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6digg is nice, but the comments system sucks. And jokes are more funny on slashdot.
posted by boklm (0)
Agreed. I've read Slashdot for about 7 years now. Since day one, they had great people commenting. Granted, the majority of comments on both sites are trolls (diggreallysucks), Slashdot definitely still has the best comments, bar far. The comments are generally more in-depth, debatable, and smart. That's a definite plus for Slashdot - Omicron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5can't we like using both? why does it have to be a competition?
- ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think one Slashdot comment summed it up:
"I tried Digg, and still get useful links from their sometimes, but it's lacking a soul."
I like Digg for the links, but that's it's only selling point. Slashdot has gets the news slower, publishes it in a linear fashion, and has interesting discussions; but has nowhere near as many links to interesting articles as Digg does.
There's no point in comparing the two, they aren't the same, and aren't mutually exclusive either. - mindactivated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What would be awesome is if Digg and Slashdot slashdotted and diggdotted each other into oblivion.
- _jinx_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What is there honestly to prefer, to get good feedback from a site surrounded with tech professionals ./ is the place, Digg has the topics already brought ou like the fact that its all community based news. I don't understand the battle?
- Ermenwyr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So now we have post on Digg about Slashdot having a story about Digg. Somebody should submit a story on this to Slashdot...
- Uthman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4>> Will Digg.com get Slashdotted?
lol, thats what I first thought when i read this. this specific post is, like JChung2006 said, about nothing, so no digg, but like the article on /. said, once digg scaled up, things will pretty much *have* to change. /. is so ugly it's painful, however if you consider that the amount of comments on this article (over at /.) alone is like equal to the summed # of comments on all of the articles on the frist page of digg... once digg grows up things will have to change.
well, i guess we can sit back and enjoy it for now =) - tarun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Welcome Slashdot readers! Come for our soothing colors, stay for the editorial freedom!
- syko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've been reading /. for a long time now and digg for about 6 months now. Both are great sites..period. Digg has the sites a bit faster but I don't read most of them. /. usually has more articles that I read, but I do hate their colors and the way the editors seem to fell elitist and pompous.
But over all I check both sites several times a day. - Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ucg1
I would say that Digg currently compares more closely to Fark.com.
Same level of useless trolling, linear posting and ubiquitous links.
Where Digg excels past Fark is that the User base chooses what posts make the front page, and there is at least a modicum of moderation ability in the forums. Digg is trying to be more of a "serious" news aggregator, where Fark has more of a focus on posting funny headlines and "news of the weird" stories.
If Digg wants to be more like /. and less like Fark, they should learn from /. about what has made them so successful. - culebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I like digg because it updates fast and has news that is funny,cool,etc. Often I'll see an article on digg that is really interesting. I often want to read about what the users think of a certain subject. This is where slashdot has digg beat hands down. Slashdot members are usually highly educated and have experience in the subject they are talking about. Digg has teenagers and 20 somethings that are wired on coke and live with their parents, and think that bevis & butthead are skilled music video commentators. When something strikes my interest here on digg I usually wait a few days to see it emerge on /. and see what the enlightened people have to say. FYI, I don't even post on /. I'm pretty sure I would be humiliated and given a digital wedgie by those geeks for even opening my mouth. Both sites rock, and I'm happy to be part of both!
- nazzurro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I can only read Slashdot comments with the threshold put to 6.
- hater2win, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Slashdot x Digg = The DigDot Effect
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*Internet explodes*
^-- I love that... - spin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I want the slashdot user base to take over Digg, they make much more intelligent comments than the flippant BS that most 13yr old digg users post. Digg is greatly devalued by the immaturity of its users, and their ignorant commenting.
- omnithrope, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Caling Digg an "aggregation of blogs" is missing the point completely.
- manfesto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Peruzing the aftermath of both this thread and /.'s, both were very much full of flames - /.'s got modded down (and I'd imagine that at least a few of the AC posts on /. were angry Diggers), and a majority of the flames on digg's thread are from members with zero ratings - a bit of a proof of concept that at least on both sites, those that contribute to the community (submitting stories on Digg, or using their Mod points wisely on Slashdot) are capable of civilized conversation.
Both sites even basically agree with each other - Digg is about links, /. is about comments, and they're not mutually exclusive. And that is that. - SquireCD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Threaded comments don't make sens on this site. We comment on articles... not on other peoples posts...
posted by binarypower (0)
I disagree. Digg likes to say that it is a community. You hear all the time that digg is "run by the users", and the "community feel" is what drives it. How much of a community can you have if you can't have a decent forum? - binarypower, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Threaded comments don't make sens on this site. We comment on articles... not on other peoples posts...
- t35t0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jakv5 you mean scooop.net yes and it has the capability to be better than slashdot and digg. The problem is the stories are on topics that don't attract people who use computers and are online 24/7. Those being the tech types. If that site had a technology section they could attract lots more people.
Also we need nested comments!!! honestly it's not that difficult to create *trees* in a database!!! - Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Slashdot is too chatty, filled with people who should be modded "Troll" isntead getting modded "Insightful" and people who should be modded "Insightful"...well, you get the point. I'd rather see content than comments anyhow as that's the whole draw of it for me.
I could care less about e-penis comparisons, I just want to read some NEWS dammit. - lickmygiggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2war? what war? Just because two things/companies/websites do the same thing, hardly means they're at war.
I was wondering how long it would take for Digg to show up on Slashdot. Christ, slashdot's been on Digg plenty of times (I still think that submitting links to slashdot is the laziest thing ever. Just post the link that the slashdot story links to... - jakv5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Now I feel bad for submitting this story 1 hour before:
http://digg.com/technology/Track_Slashdot_s_demise - SinNombre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What's Slashdot?
- molecool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, as chance might have it I heard about digg on /. yesterday and checked it out right away. Quite frankly, I've gotten sick of submitting VERY relevant articles in the last few years, just to see them shot down and someone posting the same article a day later. When Richard Smalley died, I actually submitted an article two weeks ago, 'which got shot down!!!' - I mean, come on - that IS important geek news. Anyway, I love digg and it's my 1st stop today ;-) BEFORE /.
- dasil003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Threaded comments don't make sense when there's 10-20 comments, they do when there's 500. It has nothing to do with an idealistic view of 'what we do here at this site'.
- bluffcityjk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Will Digg.com get Slashdotted?
- hanshasuro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree that the Digg commenting system really needs some work, but otherwise I prefer Digg to Dot.
- defylogik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2just s response to the story,:
QUOTE Digg is more chaotic, immediate and user driven, whereas Slashdot features more in-depth and technical discussions."
True, but i dont think that is the reason a lot of people use digg vs slash dot. the reason i stopped going to /. is because all they do, 24x hours long is post about how bad windows sucks, and how great linux is compared to it. all the stories are linux based, and all dog microsoft.
I honestly prefer a site that embraces ALL technologies, not just the technologies that 3% of the computer population uses, i just cannot stand linux bashing. Have you ever used desktop linux.. Its honestly a step backwards, rather than forwards.
and that is my rant. digg rocks, they should hire me, ill do the podcast video graphics. :) - Lesli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@diggcensorship
Oh yeah, you're bringing up an exremely important issue with supporting comments such as "digg sucks" and "eat my ass".
Don't post ***** comments and maybe you won't be "censored"? - AlanOfDale, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am glad I read the wired story about DIGG this morning. So far I have been real impressed. I am an old school slash dot reader( remember back with /. was on a single 64kISDN).
I will still read both, but I thing I will be paying more attention to Digg as time goes by..... - wmitchell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DIGG comments do as the SLASHDOT commenters say SUCK !
I know digg is much more change orientated so I will make an appeal to the develeopers of digg to fix (better) this. Please !!!! - conigs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I find it interesting that if I set the threshold to "+1 Usefull" on this thread, I get absolutely nothing..... just saying.
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(Read both Digg and /.) - succubuskiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@@@poster
^ New threaded response system for those asking. Hi-tech.lol
Use both if you like them, if not use one or the either. End of story. - Trublmakr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Biggest difference - Digg has the cool factor that /. never wanted. Slashdot out-geeks digg by metric pantloads but since Digg's pretty geeky., that's really kinda like bragging about losing a testicle to a dog-bite.
- atanguay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This should be good...a pile of guys with really dumb four word quips that aren't funny, and a collection of quasi-religious fanatics ranting about Digg without even checking it out. Feh. Slashdot is one of the finest sources of comedy that's not funny.
I stopped checking Slashdot months ago and really don't miss the news about an updated driver coming out for Red Hat. - _HAM_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I like both sites. I've been on slashdot for about six or seven years, and all probablly never stop reading it. Digg is good for recent news. Slashdot is good for a discussion, and its fun to moderate people.
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