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- MrHolla, on 10/12/2007, -3/+71The best action you can take is boycotting their products. Trying to communicate with these robots will be useless if they're still seeing an increase in profits.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42CALLER: Hi, I am an avid music fan, and recently I realized that alot of the music I am buying has DRM in it. I want my music without the DRM. Can I return the DRM?
RIAA: No you can't return the DRM.
CALLER: Well, I don't want it. I didn't know I was getting it. And when I asked at the store they told me that the RIAA (you) made them put the DRM in it, and if I had a problem I should call the RIAA which is why I am on the phone with you.
RIAA: I am sorry but we don't put DRM in music. We are just a trade association. - Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40Spam their emails with porn, but not regular porn no, doggie and goatse porn!!!
- freakyspook, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35The best protest would be to have a mass gathering of a few thousand people who all started singing copyrighted songs.
Cease and desist that RIAA!! - kodek, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36No. Spam them with torrents to the porn! :)
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -8/+34The 1960s is on the phone. They want their idealistic ***** back.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27"The best action you can take is boycotting their products. Trying to communicate with these robots will be useless if they're still seeing an increase in profits."
Sorry, but that is a load of hooey. Any sales loss that they see they will just blame on those bad, bad pirates and buy off some more politicos to push for even more draconian laws.
Yell, scream and get as much public awareness as possible. - luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23So you both feel it would be more beneficial to simply not speak out and not share our opinions? You can't honestly see boycotting silently as being enough, can you? Protests have been a tool of spreading ideas like these for generations, and while they may not get us instant results they certainly help to show our communities that there are people out there that actually care about these things.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20"The 1960s is on the phone. They want their idealistic ***** back."
Also, they're asking you to burn some Creedence CDs for them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19You: "I'm suing to download music for free!"
Them: "Uh, no."
Judge: "Get the ***** out of my courtroom." - tamzarian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Someone should work on a P.S.A. I see the cigarette and obesity (fat kid) campaigns all the time, why not make one for DRM?
I'd try myself, but it would come out bad. - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Nobody is going to be convinced by these kinds of tactics. Anyone who has the time, energy and inclination to call the RIAA about DRM or march in funny outfits in front of Apple Stores is by definition on the fringes of society.
- boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The song: http://media.zug.com/RIAA_Phone_Call.mp3
Yes, it's free. http://www.zug.com/pranks/riaa/ - joevill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Annoy people? That's something I'm really good at :)
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It could always be the fault of a little old lady without a single computer in her possession...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10CALLER: Hi, I'd like to report my neighbor Billy as a pirate. I've been looking at your website and you don't seem to have a place to report. Can you help me?
RIAA: Is he a college student with rich parents?
CALLER: I called the police about his loud music and they won't do anything. Look, he's not a college student and his family doesn't have enough money to pay your legal fees, but he's definately destroying profits for someone and all of the neighbors hate him. Please come and get him.
RIAA: Sorry, we cannot help you. - sjetha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think that this is part of the solution. To make it a solid protest would be to boycott the music AND protest about it. If the RIAA see a drop in sales they will find something to blame, but if everyone in the world is telling them that it's because of XYZ, then they'll have to start listening, and realising that it's not the pirates that are driving them out of business, it's themselves.
- mp3dog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think we should have a boycott this holiday season...
Absolutely NO MONEY spent on music or movies from Thanksgiving till the end of the year. - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5the leaders of the RIAA - "Release the lawyers"
- agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@jackwhispers
Or they could just make up some ***** about you downloading music illegally, sue you, not have to prove anything, and win. - andron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Now lets be fair here,we all know its one law for the public and a different one for corporations willing to bribe the necessary people.
Have we all forgotten Sony BMG?
They hacked a huge number of computers (was it half a million?), and yes putting root kits on machines is hacking. they where specifically designed to bypass and circumvent security systems on the machine, they blocked AV and Spy-ware scans, thus bypassing security systems. When convicted of this crime Sony received a fine of $7 dollars.
A British man was accused of hacking a few US computers and they wanted him extradited to the US so he could be sent to jail, despite the fact he hacked less machines why is he treated worse?
Simple: The government is being bribed. How can this be allowed to happen, democracy has failed the US is a dictatorship, only instead of being controlled by one manic its controlled by a few insane profit seeking manics, who don't believe the civil rights, or even human rights are good ideas.
Anyone here about HD discs? I read an article that said that discs won't play unless they carry a special fingerprint to stop people using a camcorder in a movie theater. How does i know its a pirate movie and not a home video? it doesn't and will block both. So that's anorther attempt to stamp out free speech, and to block anyone who wants to make a film from doing so without paying the right people. Why are governments so obsessed with creating such disastrous monopolies. - luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Harrassment? Calling a public phone number of a corporation to air your grievances with their products and standards is harrassment?
- splintax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah... they're not releasing public phone numbers of corporations. (By the way, IIRC, the RIAA is not a corporation.) They're releasing the (presumably private) phone numbers of the executives of such corporations.
"We will provide contact numbers for executives at the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and similar organizations around the world." - NeverSummer154, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Use Skype ... just remember that they could potentially track any phone number and prosecute for harassment"
Yea but thats what pay phones are for and the humor in it is worth 50 cents. - jamsea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Same here :P Dude I'm totally getting my friends over and phoning, this will be a great laugh!
Oh yeah and um... Down with the RIAA! Screw the system! And all that... - ozydingo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seems pretty unintrusive to sign up for an account, just give them a spammable email address if you're concerned and don't give your phone number.
But hell, why not...
Brad Buckles RIAA USA (202) 857-9607
Mitch Bainwol RIAA USA (202) 857-9651
Cary Sherman RIAA USA (202) 857-9632
Mitch Glazier (202) 857-9673 USA RIAA
Neil Turkowitz RIAA USA (202) 857-9647
Steve Redmond BPI UK +44 (0)20 7803 1324
Peter Jamieson BPI UK +44 (0) 20 7803 1311
Matt Phillips BPI UK 44 (0) 77 3951 4963
Michael Haentjes IFPI Germany +49 (30) 59 00 38-0
Peter Zombik IFPI Germany +49 (30) 59 00 38-0
Jean never Foitzik IFPI Germany +49 (30) 59 00 38-23
Herve Rony SNEP France +33 (1) 44 13 66 66
Graham Henderson CRIA Canada 1 (416) 967-7272 ext. 102 - unitedkronos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm sure someone who's signed up will put the info up on Digg for others to see.
- JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It seems like nobody has thought this through. The people who pick up the phone will not be heads of industry, probably low level employees or keyboard monkeys, people who are just in it for the money, people who don't deserve to be harassed, people who are probably affected by DRM too. Don't you think that after the first 10 calls from people in hazmat suits, they're going to stop answering. Like you say, boycotting is the solution.
- LegendarySock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"trade association"
what *****. - freonchill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2they have seen (or atleast say that they have) a negative sales for the last 5-6 years straight
so boycotting them would probably be useless, unless we made their year sales = $0. - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3no she was already dead
http://www.techspot.com/news/16925-riaa-tries-to-sue-dead-grandmother.html - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Why would you have to register and give them all ur personal info, just give me the damn number and let me call with skype! Tell them how sueing little kids with bad taste in music and cant afford a lawsuit isent right. I dunno if the RIAA protects classic rock songs, seems like all they care about is this new BS.
- nickerbocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Keep in mind since the Bush administration is paranoid as well, all ISPs are starting to have to keep records of who has what IP address at what time. Skype can be tracked as well.
- carver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When you call, ask if they can provide a dollar amount from the lawsuits they have settled that have gone to the artists that they are protecting. (I'm guessing its a number close to zero.)
- moeq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Or you could take it to an extreme and wardrive a unsecured RIAA WiFi AP, and then Skype them from their own IP.
It's a lot more efficetive (not to mention easier) to just boycott the RIAA 24/7/365. Buisness repond to only one thing, and that's the bottom line. Hurt them in the accounting deparment, not the PR department.
The hard part is to get everyone to do that. It's a generational war for hearts and minds. But have no fear, the RIAA shoots itself in the foot on that front every time they sue someone, so they're doing half the work for you. Aparantly, the RIAA thinks they're doing a "carrot & stick" stratagy, but it is coming off more like a "keystone cops" stratagy as far as I can see.
In short, don't bother jumping up and down in a silly suit or phoneing one of the RIAA's bored telephone PR wage slaves. You won't get the attention of any of the RIAA's big wigs that way. They've proven time and again that they don't care what you think. All you're going to do is waste your time and possibly come off looking like a whaco nurtbar fruit loop crazy.
Someone earlier suggested that a PSA would be the way to go, but TV air time costs money. Good luck getting a TV station to donate air time. Heh. Try PBS and CBC first, and then go podcast the hell out of it while you pray for a nibble.
Seriously.
All them "lost profits" that the RIAA keeps saying us software pirates are raking in doesn't seem to be coming my way, so you're on your own if you wanna fund an anti-RIAA PSA. I'm behind the idea, but I'm fresh out of disposable income. - darthmdh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2no, this is harrassment.
oh... wait... yes, I get your point. - aximbigfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1:me hello.
ra: hi
m: do you like the ice cream?!?!?!?!!? hehehe...
(squrrel referance..) - ozydingo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, they're releasing the office numbers of those execs. Which unfortunately means the secretaries get the majority of the beating, but such is the way of things.
- nikkesen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Pretend to be a poor suffering indy artist whose being hurt by increased record sales...
- JohnnySoftware, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Why doesn't the website publish their _own_ phone number?
They list a mailing address but no phone number. Seems like a double standard.
On their home page they are currently showing photos of a bunch of people who protested DRM at Apple Stores. Apple Stores???
Apple's music DRM, FairPlay, has that name for a reason. It lets people use their music on more computers than most people would have in their house (5 last time I checked). I think it does not put a limit on the number of iPod devices your iTunes purchases can play on. It is not inextricably tied to a particular computer or worse a particular installation of the OS on that computer. Computers get the OS reinstalled from time to time, they break, or they get sold. Apple knows that; they take all of that into account with their FairPlay system.
The Apple Macintosh comes with tons of open source software. Apple pays the costs of development/maintenace/distribution of several major pieces of open source software: Open Darwin, WebKit, to name two. Not lame stuff either; WebKit is used to supply the web browsing capability to genuine consumer products.
Protesting against Apple for DRM is like beating up a dentist because candy causes cavities. - fixyourthinking, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Use Skype ... just remember that they could potentially track any phone number and prosecute for harassment
- photomikey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My guess? Dugg two days too early. Diggers don't have a two-day memory, to remember to call on Friday!
- synch42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Interesting.... but why?
- ilovelamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is gonna be fun, finally a chance to strike back! sort of.. everyone who does call will probably get sued for pirating or something..
- XBassGuitarX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Did she have to pay anything?
- rickardl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CALLER: What's a pirate's favorite technology?
RIAA: I don't know...
CALLER: D Aaaarrrr M! - dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Alright he-man.
Calm yourself. - Skab, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2yeah something tells me, if enough people do this, something bad is gonna happen. something tells me a sleeping hydra of lawyers lay waiting, the great day of sueing.
on the other hand this could be the way, imagine 4 million people all do this, they sue everyone involved, and then waste all their money trying to sue us. self fufilling prophecy anyone?
(for the sake of my digg account not gettin banned, i do not advocate, nor condon nor advertise doing anything in the above digg story, thnx.) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5I think a class action suit would be more effective, you can be gahndi of the music world all you want but unitl they begin to lose money these outcrys of protest is nothing more then a mere fart in the wind
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2You support piratebay.org and you are opposed to DRM. Why not support house burglary and an end to door locks while you are at it.
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