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- snatchmstr, on 02/13/2008, -1/+70I'm glad to see they are going to challenge this. It is a very slippery slope to allow this to happen.
- borez, on 02/13/2008, -4/+50That's the first time the words 'EU law' have ever brought a smile to my face
- imbob, on 02/13/2008, -3/+36I know this is gonna happen in the US.......... ***** comcast...........
- PickledJesus, on 02/13/2008, -8/+36The EU was actually useful for once.
- Chaoticfist, on 02/13/2008, -2/+24Long live The Pirate Bay, as well as the global pirate party movement. I can tell you guys that the Canadian Pirate Party will be up and running soon. We are working on our site, and as soon as it is ready, we are going public.
We have a facebook page here, and like i said the site will be up soon. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6709501675 - Octaman, on 02/13/2008, -0/+19According to EU law it's also illegal to log and keep IP-addresses, as they are considered "personal information"... awesome!
- InsaneMachine, on 02/13/2008, -0/+11It doesn't matter if it easy to get around it or not. It is a matter of Principle.
- pigfister, on 02/13/2008, -4/+15it is indeed, but the western governments are using all the tricks up their sleeves to allow them to reduce ppl's liberties by employing such scare tactics as paedophiles, pirates and piracy to spy on and monitor everyone and the sad fact is that the general public are fooled by this old tactic of fascism. Heil Hitler oops i meant bush, blair and brown.
- ubergeek09, on 02/13/2008, -1/+12Information should be free! Fight censorship!
- NikoK, on 02/13/2008, -4/+14*****
- djbon2112, on 02/13/2008, -0/+10It doesn't work that way. The government-created telecom monopolies make sure that you can't simply change to a different provider when the one you have starts ***** you over.
- Octaman, on 02/13/2008, -0/+9Tue Jan 29, 2008
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - "European Union countries can refuse to disclose names of file sharers on the Internet in civil cases, the EU's top court said on Tuesday in a blow to copyright holders trying to fight digital piracy." - MikeSD34, on 02/13/2008, -0/+9Unless they don't do it with DNS, and instead block off all traffic to and from thepiratebay.org ips.
Granted you can still use tor or something similar, but that doesn't stop it from being a pain in the ass. - MonsterChaOS, on 02/13/2008, -0/+9iAgree
- spiri, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Oh yeah, because in Denmark we all think that the block is a brilliant idea! So ***** us all...
I was being sarcastic, if anyone didn't catch it... - PaulOwen, on 02/13/2008, -0/+8The EU Privacy Law is a guideline for member states. In the UK for example, ISPs cannot hand over your personal details to a third party without your written permission first. Apart from he police of course.
- jamesov89, on 02/13/2008, -2/+10god dammit. I know I will be buried but I just don't know what else to say.
- ileftfark, on 02/13/2008, -3/+10The EU isn't run by Bush. Sometimes it's hard to remember what it's like to live outside of fascism.
- djbon2112, on 02/13/2008, -1/+8It wasn't "humorous". It was crap. Dugg down.
- Bilabrin, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7Something Is Rotten in the State of Denmark.
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7at least there are no College raids like in US.
- Plughie, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7I think the original quote was, "Information wants to be free." -- Stewart Brand. And, "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." -- John Gilmore. I don't know that information "should" be free. Roger Clarke added, "Information also wants to be expensive. ... That tension will not go away."
- Chaoticfist, on 02/13/2008, -0/+6I just wanted to add
Sorry for it being a facebook link. I know it blows. But right now we are sort of limited to that and msn in our communications. It is also where the Canadian Pirate Party was born. I started the group, and people started joining, and we started talking and planning. - alex7575, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6...because the internet is all about censorship... ask China... and Denmark... and coming soon to a USA near you...
- jerrro, on 02/13/2008, -0/+5As long as politicians aren't updated on the development in technology, there will be crazy laws. Of course a 50y/o who has had no alternative to supporting the record labels since he/she was a kid will not understand the other side of the argument. There must special IT-politicians who are constantly updated in the field. Even if someone is a master of agriculture doesn't mean he/she knows squat about technology.
- TechCF, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4European Union Law , NOT European Law
- linksus, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4ISP's will soon be as hated as the police!.
We cant let this happen! - djrbx, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4For people using Tele2 go to http://thejesperbay.org/
- mike117117, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Not that its a huge difference, but based on looking at the the instructions to get around the block(in Danish, I looked at the pictures), they just removed it from their DNS server, they don't actually block the ip.
http://thejesperbay.org/index.php?page=ajaxswitch& ... - HyperJack, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3He'll be back don't you worry! No-one can resist the awesomness of Digg ;-)
- banmaster, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3But ONLY because of pressure from the USA, a country that is already rotten to its core.
- danske, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3In a comment to TorrentFreak Swartz said: “I am surprised that the Danish ISPs have simply accepted the rulings in Denmark when they are so obviously illogical and dangerous. The courts say that any network provider performs “copying” in their routers. If that is correct the consequences are enormous and The Pirate Bay and the two other cases in Denmark would just be the beginning.”
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What other two cases is he talking about?? - verkon, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3If I recall it right, changing an EU law isn't something you just do overnight.
- digitalpencil, on 02/13/2008, -2/+4What good would black-holeing the site do anyway? I think anyone who knows how to port-forward, knows what a ***** proxy is!
- TaeBoX, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2It wasn't for me, until I read your sentence.
- jellygraph, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2so nowadays all it takes for an entire country to be branded like that is one stupid governmental policy... you and your entire country are retarded!
- Firehed, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3You do know that the fix (don't use your ISP's DNS servers) would be identical, right?
- Leviathan88, on 02/13/2008, -6/+8And what did they solve if they blocked piratebay? There are thousands of trackers they didn't. And DC hubs, emule, even http. Piracy will live forever. ***** the RIAA. ***** the MPAA.
- Hedegaard, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2I seem to recollect a few (I used to live in Denmark - and it was while I still lived there - so it must be approx. 5 years ago) - so Denmark got that one checked as well ....
- jeffsback2223, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2You pretty much have to move to a new location for that to happen. I know Virginia counties sign contracts with cable and phone companies ensuring no competition. I'm sure its the same way everywhere else.
- chachi4065, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1European Union FTW!!!
- MikeSD34, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1I disagree, those lists are maintained in DNS, Comcast only has to keep up with that, and that's easy.
- inactive, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1Any chance you could explain exactly what 'liberties' are at stake by blocking access to a site that's sole purpose is to allow the unlawful distribution of copyrighted materials?
- aqualung857, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1the man is trying to put down bit torrent
- joe-ball, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1I guess that's 1 more thing Turkey has to do to get in the EU. I'm in Turkey right now and the central government blocks TPB and wordpress.com.
- ubergeek09, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Good quote, but I wasn't meaning to quote anyone. =O
- Yodzilla, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1You guys need to check out this article to see what the Pirate Bay is all about
http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/The_Pirate_Bay_sho ... - jellygraph, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2lol
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1It'll take a long time before they actually get anything to court.
I heard there's a long wait time. - jellygraph, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2I just want to point out that I only support the whole notion of the pirate bay out of disgust with how the RIAA and MPAA have handled things since napster. They have become terrorists, with the law on their side and a strangle hold on artists, who get little in proportion to how much the pigs make.
But, at the end of the day, downloading music and movies without paying for it _is_ immoral. Its a lot of peoples bread and butter and, for this reason, I dont see why it is bad for any government to try to take action to prevent people from doing these sorts of things. They aren't throwing anyone in jail or fining people. -
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