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- Hardflip, on 09/18/2009, -0/+47Genius. This solution sounds so foolproof. They should DRM music too, I bet that would stop all those mp3 pirates.
- Fhwqhgads, on 09/18/2009, -1/+36Yup, that's right. Keep ignoring the elephant in the room called the Internet where all your crap can be downloaded and watched for free, commercial free.
Consider yourselves lucky anyone watches TV anymore. - pigfister, on 09/18/2009, -4/+35
lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted into changing their ways. Don't purchase any RIAA (BPI) affiliated media and avoid as much Sony Hardware as possible, why allow these corporate fecks to dictate hardware DRM to restrict Indie media any-more.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** corporate globalist wankers from bad press.
RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
MPAA, MPA:
# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)
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RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtm ...
"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/141326 ... - gritta, on 09/18/2009, -2/+31Idiots... everything has been pirated from American TV stations, DVDs etc. long before it gets to Britain. :D
- inactive, on 09/18/2009, -0/+21Door swings both ways. Who wants to wait months for a new episode of Doctor Who on SciFi or BBC America when you can download the torrent.
Putting a broadcast flag on it just makes for a minor annoyance for pirates. Work-a-rounds will be in place weeks after implementation. - MacBookForMe, on 09/18/2009, -5/+20Dugg for that Absolut vodka
- palehorse864, on 09/18/2009, -0/+10To disable the DRM, you just need the proper tool. Ahh, here it is.
http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FPY/O0YS/ ... - Myztry, on 09/19/2009, -0/+9It's not illegal to buy DVD's with a different region code.
That fact actually caused Sony (Playstation) to loose the original case against against mod chips because although the chips were circumventing a copy protection, they were also circumventing an anti-competitive measure in the form of zone locking.
Anti-competitive measures are not protected by law and often illegal themselves. - LostSoul83, on 09/18/2009, -2/+11I'm with you. TV is garbage. I spend most of my free time playing games... older games... games that don't install malware on my PC.
- Frostek, on 09/18/2009, -3/+11I haven't watched TV for about 6 years now.
(I have a lot of books) - HeavyWave, on 09/18/2009, -1/+8That's what I had to do to get the Office Season 4 in Australia. Apparently, it's illegal to buy DVDs with a wrong region code or I would've bought it from Amazon. So stupid, they are just cutting their own profit.
- Appox, on 09/19/2009, -0/+7DRM doesn't work though.
- LostSoul83, on 09/18/2009, -0/+7This is yet more evidence of the evil capitalists trying to infect anything and everything with DRM. Why? So they can then sell your rights back to you at a later date of course.
- akiller, on 09/18/2009, -0/+6Obligatory ***** the MPAA/RIAA/Ofcom etc
I'm sure it will be cracked though. I hope so, because I rarely watch live TV in favour of recording it with my TV card. - inactive, on 09/19/2009, -0/+5The radio station thing is one of the most ***** up things I've ever heard. If they don't get sued over anti-trust violations for this I'm going to be very suprised.
- protogenxl, on 09/18/2009, -0/+4FECK, ARSE, DRINK!
http://www.fathertedonline.ukf.net/Images/wallpape ... - Stavrosian, on 09/18/2009, -0/+3The trouble the chap at that website has is that he keeps reading what they send him and replying. I've found that just binning any envelope which has the TV Licensing logo on the front of it and pretending such an organisation doesn't even exist is a very effective technique.
(I'm being flippant, of course. I realise he is only demonstrating a point.) - HeavyWave, on 09/19/2009, -0/+3Wow that is actually true. A lot of DVDs I have said that you are not allowed to import DVDs with different region code. Guess, I shouldn't believe what they say.
- mabsark, on 09/18/2009, -1/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
- ohreilly, on 09/19/2009, -0/+3You don't have to prove that you don't own a television, they have to prove that you're watching broadcast TV for a prosecution to happen. You are allowed to own a TV (or freeview box) for a multitude of purposes that don't require a licence.
They have very little power unless they can catch you doing that. - supermanred, on 09/19/2009, -0/+3I know the Executives of these cable companies have NO IDEA what the internets is, or what DRM is... so my question is WHICH ONE OF YOU ***** FROM MY GENERATION IS SELLING THESE ***** IDEAS TO THEM?
We should find out who is selling these DUMB, STUPID, ideas to them and hang them (figuratively speaking I mean) on the internets. - ohreilly, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2If you get taken to court, that's because they have evidence of you watching broadcast TV (or your TV has the channels stored in presets), so it's your own fault.
If you ignore the nastygrams (which legally you don't have to reply to) and their inspectors (who you don't need to let in, unless they have a warrant which would be obtained with evidence that you've been watching broadcast TV).
Can you link directly to someone who has been taken to court yet doesn't own a TV, or said TV isn't tuned into any of the broadcast channels (that is one way the "inspectors" check if you actually let them in). I've skimmed through some of the links (too lazy to scour for you) and they are about people constantly being sent nastygrams that are all bark and no bite. Better yet, has that person who has been taken to court despite having an untuned TV (or is using it under one of the exceptions) and no licence, if one exists, been convicted of the offence? - ohreilly, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2DVB-T (in the UK) is a completely open effort, the boxes are made by many different companies with their own software. Freeview is just the branding and marketing effort.
Freesat is much more tightly controlled, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from using a generic DVB-S box (like what is already done for DVB-T). You don't get the interactive TV or 7-day EPG, but you can watch any of the channels on Freesat on a box with HDMI but without HDCP. - ASSASSYN360, on 09/18/2009, -2/+4Jack asses!
- protogenxl, on 09/18/2009, -2/+4This is the same country that runs the TVLA so it all seems Par for the Course
http://www.marmalade.net/lime/ - RoiPerez, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2I've read the article, but I don't quite understand what they are trying to do. I am British and live in London. Does this affect me? What does a 'broadcast flag' mean?
- pissshivers, on 09/19/2009, -1/+3I thought by now it was obvious that DRM doesn't stop piracy, and it's a big inconvenience to paying customers. And why do they care about protection anyway? BBC is funded by taxes...
- Myztry, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Freeview has been pushed a fair bit in Australia. The push the idea that people need a freeview compatible box. I was curious about the difference but I've discovered they cloak the true intent by explaining it away as a difference in the EPG (Electronic Program Guide) format.
Call me paranoid, but it seems apparent now that Freeview is an attempt to inject a branded (one party controlled) DRM into households using 'free' as the carrot. How long before Freeview boxes comes to require Freeview 'certified' screens as well? It's only a matter of 'free' firmware being pushed over the digital airwaves. Much like the domestic robots in iRobot.
Naturally I could be totally wrong, and it's a totally innocent and consumer friendly exercise (LOL). Here's a good review where they don't draw a DRM based conclusion. http://www.cnet.com.au/what-is-freeview-339294833. ... - Myztry, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1And a suggested link I missed pointing towards branded DRM extending to screens.
http://www.cnet.com.au/freeview-epg-won-t-be-compa ... - Jennefah, on 09/19/2009, -1/+2Not taxes... by a license fee. People can choose not to pay it but it's often a hassle to actually prove you don't own a television, or that if you do you don't use it to watch their broadcasts.
- jusjus, on 09/19/2009, -1/+2Your comment isn't Turing complete.
- pigfister, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Apple are not the MPAA or RIAA!
- waydee, on 09/18/2009, -0/+1Exactly, if they don't listen to you the first time when you tell them you don't have a television or don't watch broadcast TV then it's their own fault, just bin all future correspondence and on the offchance that they make a visit, which they never do in affluent areas, you don't acknowledge them.
The onus of proof is on them. - TheJenks, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Why not go the whole way and encrypt the broadcast as well - Then we would have the option of not having to buy a TV license and just stick to the decent channels. Oh thats why.
- pigfister, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1sued, that was passed by congress after sony lobbyist bribed them all.
read the link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24/141326 ... - ohreilly, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Because most people can't be bothered to waste precious internet bandwidth to download absolutely everything they watch, it is far easier to press record on the PVR and get it in at a superior quality.
The BBC doesn't care so much about the internet, since it is satisfying its rights holders in restricting iPlayer to the UK. It also receives a guaranteed income, and is able to sell its programmes internationally pretty easily. - Frostek, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1None of this says the BBC support the idea - just that they've been asked to ask for it by the other providers.
- RoiPerez, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1comment of the year, love it :D
- Nicoon, on 09/19/2009, -1/+1But buried for associating it with DRM.
- Jennefah, on 09/19/2009, -1/+1Then why are there countless stories all over the internet and from my family and friends of harrassment by the BBC and pressure to prove they aren't using their television for broadcasts? Stories of people being dragged to court? Maybe prosecution won't happen but there's still a hell of a lot of harrassment of people who, if they don't have a licence (or watch TV), are NOT BBC customers and should be left the hell alone!
http://www.onebillionpageviews.org/intimidation.ht ...
http://himmelgartencafe.blogspot.com/2009/03/have- ...
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general ...
http://www.marmalade.net/lime/
Those are just a few examples. - captspaulding, on 09/18/2009, -3/+2Who uses a sonic screwdriver?! Laser is where it's at.
- abk0110, on 09/19/2009, -4/+0There's an Australian version of The Office too? How is it?
- urbanetruth, on 09/18/2009, -6/+1Yeah, don't buy Sony stuff. Buy from Apple or any of the other "corporate fecks" who aren't making a profit.
Eventually, they will all be forced to grant you a free license so that you can copy and distribute other people's work as much as you want. - gumballer, on 09/18/2009, -6/+1Obama? Is that you?
- Taru89, on 09/18/2009, -7/+1Do you like Absolut?
- inactive, on 09/18/2009, -9/+1The Brits are always slow when it comes to IT
- inactive, on 09/18/2009, -11/+0Hey that's great Mr. Moral crusader, but I wonder what kind of content you download?.
Hmm....
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