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- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36In other news scientists discover the sun is hot.
- thefat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22I think everyone should call customer service with fake "technical issues" related to DRM.
- newbee70, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20It cost me about $75. from one of the on-line stores. Media player would download the licenses then when I shut my computer down it would delete the file. The store reactivated the license the next day and media player deleted the file again. after that the on line store refused to re license the songs. And unfortunately I had not backed them up as mp3's. I'm out the money, but I will not buy another song either.
- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14You think DRM is cornering any music? pffftt There is one universal rule if it can be seen or heard it can be copied.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12http://www.emusic.com
- dt40, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The average iTunes user does not give a damn-at first. Then, they try to play their iTunes music on some non-Apple device and they are mighty pissed because they didn't realize that they got locked in to using only Apple devices when they bought their music. I've seen this happen with three different friends.
One partial solution to this whole DRM mess is to modify the DMCA to make it legal to create and sell tools designed to remove DRM for purposes of fair use. Does Europe even have a DMCA equivalent? - rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Companies that love money more than they work to satisfy the customer embrace DRM with open arms.
- wonderboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8A lot of people have no idea what DRM is. Just like a lot of people know almost nothing about cars.
- Jumba990, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9DRM was the worst thing ever created, I don't even know why people even buy songs with drm protection.
I bet that DRM actually contributes to the rising amount of people pirating songs. - numptydumpty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"or preferably live music played by actual human beings"
yes, so easy to carry around in your pocket too.... - rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Because people don't know any better. Go to Target or Wal-mart or wherever and ask people in the CD section if they know what DRM is. They buy it because its available and they have money.
- quazywabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4See here is what is bad, I love buying music, but I don't like waiting for that music to come in the mail, but even more than that I hate DRM. So I have a choice, download it illegally and get it now, buy the cd and wait for it to get in the mail, or buy the cd with DRM. Out of the three the downloading illegally is the best choice to get it right away, but at the same time If i can buy the cd in mp3 format I will, but most labels want to sell it with DRM. Maybe the RIAA will start understanding that DRM is lack of choice. each system has its own drm be it fairplay, play4sure, and whatever system the zune uses. I want something where I can play it on my computer, can play it in my car, play it on my home stereo, listen to it on my favorite mp3 player, listen to it at a friends place, etc. but DRM does not give me this coice, in fact it limits what I can do.
- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What I think is funny is all these rappers act like they're outside the law, don't need the law take a matter into thier own hands, hate cops, etc, etc. Then right on the front of their frickn' cd big as the title is a warning about how boot legging is a federal crime. If that doesn't scream poser nothing does. Really though the only way you are going to have 100% DRM lock down is to not show anybody your movie or music.
- lucid270, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Paris Hilton unavailable for comment.
- Seddon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If you burn then rip them though it reduces the quality of the audio.
- wdfmor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4big surprise..
- Toupee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2>> "Maybe the RIAA will start understanding that DRM is lack of choice. "
You'll be waiting a long time! They're just a bunch of scurvy shyster bastards.
When I go to buy an album, I check for RIAARadar.comto find out whether the label is part of the RIAA. If it is, I torrent that ***** and buy some merch at the artist's website. I guarantee they'll see a lot more of the cash and you don't have to feel guilty stealing from artists/fueling a piece of ***** organization.
(Of course, that's if the album's not already on eMusic. I love me some eMusic!) - rocknrolf77, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Drm do not prevent piracy. It's just the other way around. If I'm going to buy music I want to play it wherever I want to. I don't want to rent it. Drm just makes more angry costumers pirate music. It's not working, why waste all that money developing it? Use it for music instead. Only the honest customers get the problem with drm, then why bother.
- Spr0k3t, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I purchased a song from the itunes site once. I was never able to play the song on my computer through the itunes software. After a week or so of madening technical issues with the itunes store, I decided to just download the lossless FLAC version for free. I've since converted that song into other formats for all my musical needs. I've since sold my iPod, converted to linux (from windows), and found a much easier way to get digital music without the DRM... at the library.
I'd pay premium for lossless digital downloads without DRM. Alas, it's a pirates life for me. - Chandon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't let yourself get guilt-tripped into buying music just because they aren't utterly screwing you with DRM. The music industry needs to accept the fact that they're in competition with freely shared music, and if they want to keep making money they need to provide a better product.
It wouldn't be hard for an online music store to provide a better music download service than P2P file trading does. They could charge $0.50 to $1 depending on song popularity, and then they could allow unlimited downloads of that track in a number of different DRM-free formats (MP3, OOG, WMA, AAC, FLAC).
Actually, now that I think about it, there's an online music store that does that today: AllOfMp3.com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What're the other 25%?
I can't think of anything. - Zuggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah I had the same problem with Napster, and when I sent a complaint to customer support (a respectful, this happened can you fix it) they wouldn't respond, yet whenever anyone would complain about it on their forums they gave the form, if you have a problem contact customer support, post.
I have since switched to an iPod with iTunes (napster's music manager sucked IMO) and just buy CD's - Meowbiusfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DR, ..What? If Slim Pickens didn't give a cuss bout no danged ol' DRM
then I sure don't.I listen to victrola and eat deer steaks on the hood of my jeep.
The desert is cold as I poop on promo photos of music label presidents past and present. - DrGamez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was in the same boat until I realized how bad sounding the quality from iTunes was.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I been to shop where rappers were signing autographs and say to the people dont bootleg
I tell them they should sell their alubm for a buck cause that's all they'll see seriously
album at best buy 12.99 rapper gets 1 buck out that WTF - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3LOL...
I just don't bother buying songs for formats that don't allow me to have a portable backup that can be played on multiple devices. Forget about paying for downloads! If it isn't on a CD, I don't buy it. Otherwise, I just listen to whatever happens to be on the radio or on our satellite dish, or preferably live music played by actual human beings. - demizu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Sounds interesting... Even if it's not true it is quite a nice idea.
- clark24, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I highly doubt that DRM-free music alone saw a 40% increase on this service. Most people using these types of services don't even know what DRM is.
Back in the day I would spend hours scouring IRC channels for free albums. I now use iTunes almost exclusively. It's not that I don't "know any better" but rather that my time is valuable to me and I'd much rather shell out 99 cents per track or $9.99 for an album and have it in a matter of minutes. The alternative is to waste time trying to find it on bittorent, an XDCC bot, or drive to the store to purchase a CD. Why bother? So I can brag about how I backed up 18 copies of a CD and stuck it to the man?
Do I really need to "backup" umpteen copies of my entire music library? No. I have one copy on my computer, and one on my iPod. Occasionally I will copy a track to my girlfriend's iPod, or my iPod Shuffle. Even then I have not exceeded the FairPlay limit. - origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Is that DRM or the Windows..... or the user's technical abilities. This does not hold true for Apple music purchases.
- cheato, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I don't even bother with DRM or online music stores. I just buy the CD...on non-RIAA labels, of course.
- chrisfnet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I bet it does too.
- joegibes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Not many people realize that you can burn purchased iTunes music to a CD and rip them with winamp or WMP or whatever into UNPROTECTED mp3 format.
- slamscaper945, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Yes, joegibes is correct. I used that same trick on a few songs I downloaded from Napster that were protected with DRM. It really made me mad when I wanted to convert the format of the songs and the DRM wouldn't let me even though I had paid for them. I found that by burning them to a CD-R and ripping them back to my PC the DRM would be gone and I could do whatever I wanted with them including convert them to any format I wished. When you burn the songs to CD all the DRM metadata is discarded and it remains gone forever.
- VeganBob, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7This just in: sun causes 75% of high temperature problems on Earth.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2So, if you're going to blame DRM for pirating, then explain to me why it is that the majority of people who pirate music today were pirating music before DRM existed.
Yeah, nice try.
I think artists should have more control of their content and should make a bigger share of money compared to the record company. But guess what, DRM or not, artists still want you to pay for their work. Otherwise they wouldn't have signed with a label.
Stealing is stealing. Pirating is easy and you would rather spend your money on something else. Me too. Don't come up with some dramatic reason to justify it any other way. - xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Stupid question, on multiple levels.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3 "75% of customer service problems caused by DRM"
Wow. Sounds like you have a really bad DRM system, and really bad online technical support information.
"although his iTunes Store does not offer DRM-free music despite the fact that many artists have requested it."
Really? Have they? Wheres the research that backs this up? They get free advertising, so no actually a lot of them are probably happy about it.
"Championing the "Comeback of MP3," Musicload said that artists choosing to drop DRM saw a 40 percent increase in sales since December."
Really? So you're saying that DRM artists stayed flat, while DRM-free artists saw a 40% increase because of their lack of DRM? Or maybe, like every other retail company, the December quarter is the biggest of the year, and thus always has the highest sales boost. DRM or not. Statistical *****.
The fact is that, overwhelmingly, the average iTunes user clearly does not give a damn. Thats why iTunes is one of the biggest distributors of music in the industry. - fuckingusername, on 10/12/2007, -8/+376% dont give a PHUCK
- Jaysus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4did anyone ever really embrace DRM?
- numptydumpty, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2shut up
- DrGamez, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1shut up
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5"Running" Windows were you? Windows DRM is like that - it randomly deletes material you've paid for. Shame.
If you're stupid enough to "run" Windows, you deserve all you get.
Game Over, Microsoft! - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -19/+1If it weren't for DRM, online music stores wouldn't exist.
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