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- ITNick, on 12/23/2008, -0/+26I dont undertand bullying on Myspace, wouldnt you have to friend the bully for them to communicate with you?
- A11YND, on 12/23/2008, -3/+28a Troll Law? Give me a break. If you don't like what's being said, ignore it, block the user, whatever. The court system shouldn't have to play mommy just because your dumbass can't grasp the concept that feeding the trolls is bad.
- MWeather, on 12/22/2008, -5/+26The lesson here is that your right to not get your feelings hurt is more important than the bully's right to free speech. The crazy thing is that in most cases if you said it out loud instead of online, it would legal.
- toenail, on 12/23/2008, -3/+21i have a solution for cyberbullying, its called logging off or going to different sites. my god, can we get any stupider
- zantos420, on 12/23/2008, -0/+11who said cyber?
/me puts on robe and wizard hat - BullHunter, on 12/22/2008, -3/+13Bullies are Wankers. They have nothing better to do than mess with others to compensate for their own very low self esteem.
- norman619, on 12/23/2008, -2/+11It's more of the pussification of our youth. This law sounds a bit unconstitutional. I hope someone has the balls to take it to the supreme court.
- norman619, on 12/23/2008, -0/+8exactly. explain this to the lawmakers please.
- firex726, on 12/23/2008, -1/+9Laws do not prevent people from doing things, they define the consequences for when people do those actions. Making a law for something is not going to magically make it so people will stop doing it. (The percentage of people that would not break the law for bulling, are probably not the people that would bully to begin with.)
Most people don't intentionally break the law.
Take for example speeding... I don't drive around town trying to break the speed limit, just that sometimes I may not see the next sign and not know I'm going too fast. Or I forget to check when I do see one.
There is a law against it, but it still happens, and if I get in a car wreck that law won't do anything to prevent me from hurting the other motorist, it just says what kind of consequences I have to face. - norman619, on 12/23/2008, -1/+9Cyberbullys are a lowest order of bully. C'mon folks! These people don't have the balls to face their targets in person so they do it online. LOL!!!! If your kid gets their panties all up in a bunch over a harsh email or chat session get their heads examined. I say this because if thats how they handle impersonal bullying how will they deal with the regular kind which is face to face and has the real possibility of an ass kicking? Plus if you can't deal with some trash talking online then you need to GTF off line.
- Pritchard, on 12/23/2008, -1/+9I'll have to check out the details of this case. From summary, this does *not* look like a great development, but rather a step towards the internet bending over for the ignorant.
There's harassment, then there's having thing said to you that you don't like. Cyber bullying generally has no grounds for harassment since most of the internet provides fine control over which content you can and can not see.
Also, for sites which are privately owned (almost all of the ones we visit), I don't feel that they should be required to implement anti-cyber bullying controls, although most do this anyways. Blocking, filtering and access controls are standard features for internet communication utilities. - Cerialthriller, on 12/23/2008, -0/+7since when does anyone have a right to not have their feelings hurt?
- Icetype, on 12/23/2008, -0/+7No kidding. "Cyber" hasn't been cool for like 15 years.
- A11YND, on 12/23/2008, -1/+7There IS NO difference between trolling and "cyber-bullying."
Trolling:
Posting a topic or messaging a user to elicit a negative response and confrontation.
Cyber-bullying:
See above. - norman619, on 12/23/2008, -0/+6Or that your parents aren't doing their job with you. I remember my dad telling me "If I hear you were in a fight it better be because the other kid hit you first." He taught me harsh words and gossip are the weps of a coward and should be ignored.
- Cerialthriller, on 12/23/2008, -3/+8or just stop being a pussy, lol
- MacParrot, on 12/23/2008, -0/+5I disagree norman. Just look here on digg. Show a preference for something (and I'm not singling out Macs as there are plenty of Mac users who go out of their way to bully Windows users) and someone who likes something else goes off on a rage.
Usually it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed other than in the broadest of terms of being A Mac post or Windows post or PS3/Wii/XBox post. It can be impossible to actually HAVE a discussion because of people hijacking posts to say nothing more than Macs/Windows/Linux is teh suxor - Spoomeister, on 12/23/2008, -1/+6Less laws, more parenting.
- rda1441, on 12/23/2008, -3/+7They need a law for 'cyberbullying'? What ever happened to just fighting fire with fire?
- inactive, on 12/23/2008, -2/+6Internet tough guy alert
- oxdeltaxo, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4no but what itnick is saying is bullying on myspace is voluntary, you give your permission when you add them.
- jekylltech, on 12/23/2008, -0/+3Yes more laws! This is exactly what we need, more government rules and regulations that monitor nearly anonymous chat rooms and message boards. I'm so glad at there are laws against rape, murder and theft; otherwise those would happen everyday....wait there is something on the news...
- oxdeltaxo, on 12/23/2008, -0/+3I'd like to see a troll law enforced on 4chan.... Let the /b/tards loose, on those who would rather censor us.
- silentboom, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4There is no such thing as cyber-bullying unless you can punch someone with your computer. There are already laws that exist for slander, etc. We do not need more laws for god sake.
- slantyeyed, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4but this isn't just online bullying. what if someone had to deal with this online and then at work or school or in public where rumors affected someone's reputation? how would you be able to make a living? how would a false online rumor affect a court case involving custody of a child, etc?
- Pritchard, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4"The case that spurred the new Missouri law was that of Megan Meier, who committed suicide in 2006 after receiving a long series of manipulative messages on MySpace from someone who she believed was a teenage boy that she was flirting with."
I remember this one. This is not a problem with the internet and its laws, IMO. People need to stop diving into the internet hoping to find some fantasy world which has just been waiting for them. I never take internet communications seriously until I have a way to verify its content. That being said, I still take whatever good I can from unverified communication.
The internet allows the best and worst of people's inner selves to come out. I don't think any law should interfere with this, because it's great to be able to do that in a safe, experimental environment. Just teach your god damned kids that just like video games, novels, art, etc., you have to be careful how deep you dive into it. - Pritchard, on 12/23/2008, -0/+3Cyber Bullies are just as bad as the people who get hurt by them. In real life, bullying is often pretty bad, especially for kids, because there's laws, administrator intervention, and in general, a system which works against people standing up for themselves.
Online, fine control utilities exist. I see no reason to ever, EVER let yourself get too upset over a cyber bully. A troll, maybe! - If you're inexperienced, that is. - inactive, on 12/23/2008, -1/+4Or perhaps for kids the generation below you the internet is a more real and tangible form of their communication/lives?
- JonForTheWin, on 12/23/2008, -1/+3"who committed suicide in 2006 after receiving a long series of manipulative messages on MySpace from someone who she believed was a teenage boy that she was flirting with. The exchange went sour when the "boy" started accusing Megan of various social crimes like being mean to her friends and being a slut."
This is like a ***** onion article. People are pathetic. - inactive, on 12/23/2008, -4/+6The internet is serious business.
- missingnoh4x, on 12/23/2008, -1/+3Oh no! Meanies on the internet!
- blackturtleus, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2The legal system is out of touch with reality. What happens online is nowhere near as dangerous as what goes on in real life. People actually die in car crashes and various accidents everyday. Only once in a great while does some poorly adjusted teenager actually do something stupid as a result of an online interaction. The problem here is that law-makers really don't understand the Internet and you get stupid laws when people make laws about things they know very little about!!!
- msaleem, on 12/22/2008, -16/+18IMO this is a great development. As online communities develop and become a more permanent and more important fixture in our daily lives, we need a way to prevent people from behaving in a way that can have severe (and sometimes fatal) consequences for other members.
- starslinger72, on 12/23/2008, -1/+3actually there is a difference between trolling and "cyber bullying"
the troll is targeting anyone who will take the bait, while a cyber bully is going to pick a specific target, generally one that they know in RL. - inactive, on 12/23/2008, -1/+3QQ more noobs
- oxdeltaxo, on 12/23/2008, -0/+2Grammar bully.
/s - Aitese, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1If I call you an ***** to your face, exactly how is it different if I send it to you via email? You're mistaking these cases with anonymous comments like mine from people you're never likely to meet. The case that started all this was due in part to one of those anonymous relationships, but also continued harassment from people the girl knew. Knowing people you know think horrible things about you and don't mind sharing said opinion with even more people on-line is not what a small kid needs. You're an adult, you can brush off such insults...kids can't.
- scheming, on 12/23/2008, -1/+2word, atomicdog1471 is right, but for you to actually pay attention to what a bully has said if the bully is not a friend, you would have to be informed by someone else. it would be like someone talk about you behind your back. people, not just online, need to learn to brush off or ignore the *****. and those who don't (13 yr old girls who are not legally allowed to create myspace accounts), should not interfere in the business of those who do.
- antistupid, on 12/23/2008, -1/+2Yeah but in all fairness MacParrot, you're a trolling fanboy. You can't expect to have a discussion about a topic when you start investing emotions into it..which is what fanboys do. Also, if you don't have thick enough skin/self confidence to deal with words on a screen, you probably have bigger issues to worry about than having a civilized discussion on digg.
- MSUKate, on 12/23/2008, -3/+4"Missouri is prosecuting the first handful of individuals for harassing others using various technology, although critics insist that such laws do nothing to actually stop bullies. "
Laws dont exactly do nothing to actually stop any crime. People still get assaulted, beated, raped, murdered, and the laws actually do nothing to stop it.
Its societys reaction that the law implies. the law is saying that harassment (which is a crime), via any methods is still a crime.
As for the adult woman who played the "prank" on the girl who committed suicide. Isn't facilitating a suicide a crime? Her telling an emotionally vulnerable girl that the world would be better without her to me is enabling her to committ suicide.
Personally the whole case is disgusting.
But its about time that harassment (which is what bullying really is) is finally being taken seriously, becuase it can have serious consequences. - spyd3rweb, on 12/23/2008, -1/+2Yeah we've got a way its called the 'block' button and I will be using it on you.
- cj959, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1In today's world, if you defend yourself from bullying in that manner, you'll be the one serving time in jail.
- rda1441, on 12/23/2008, -1/+2Agreed. In my younger days I'd get bullied by a guy once, usually the broken nose taught him back down.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+1So posting pictures of a bullying victim on your page, posting rumours about them on your/other peoples pages etc wouldn't happen if the victim didn't have the bully added as a friend?
- inactive, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1you underestimate how sheepish and easily manipulated most people are. just look at digg.
- faskill, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1"thanks to an changes" indeed.
- adkenc, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1e-bully? iBully?
- toenail, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1then u just play along, most of the ppl talking ***** are pussies that hide behind a keyboard.. behind the keyboard im the biggest pussy alive.. in real life, im just your average pussy. ppl arent killing themselves on camera because they are being "cyberbullied", there doing it because that wanna be internet superstars..
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