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- loftx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27It's against Adsense's terms and conditions - if someone reports your MFA site you will get kicked out of Adsense. Google probably won't try too hard to stop you before that though, as they're still making thier cut off these types of sites.
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27 No man. You buy 'Cheap' keywords, and use search engine results for 'expensive' keywords as the content on your website so that you get high paying ads from adsense on it.
So you pay $0.05 a click, and 1 in 100 click one of your $10.00 per click ads, than you've just made $5.00 per 100 clicks. Get it?
It's sleazy, but it sounds like an easy way to make some dough. - ig0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22You misunderstood him. He means that for 333 days you make 1 site per day, so at the end you have 333 sites going, all generating $1 per day. That adds up to just shy of $10k per month.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Google, take notice and take action! MFA sites make the internet cry.
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Good.
- dan.grover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15The guy is presenting it as a way to demonstrate the damage these sites do, not as some straight-up money-making strategy.
- batman88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17RTFA. They clearly state that this scheme is evil and hope that Google shuts these sites down. If only Google could shut down PCs of people that post comments without RTFA...
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I believe the "hour" figure is fudged. I'd almost believe "half a day." A day would cover it pretty reasonably.
"Find an expensive and popular keyword (there are numerious free lists of keywords online and you can use Google AdWords Keyword Tool in order to estimate keyword popularity and price). It took us 1 minute."
Almost Nothing takes 1 minute. Even minute-rice. - sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11it stands for RTFA
- nomad111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I see this all day... Google is a doubled edge sword.. they want to be this pure and good search... To be "Fair" yet they allow this... MFA sites are not duping Google... Its all about money at the end of the day, like any other company
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"The problem is, this, like many other get-rich-quick schemes completely ignores the value of your time and resources. You have to expend a ton of effort to set up these things and for a $1/day, you're not really investing your time wisely -- especially considering the very real possibility that these schemes will be invalidated and unprofitable in the near future."
Yeah, but you only invest your time *once.* Through their experiment, it took them an hour. Assume they're poor college kids and their time is worth $10/hr. Also assume it took them $20 to pay for hosting and storage of their site. They just spend $30, and the site will recoup that investment in 1 month with no further effort. The next one will probably cost about $15 ($7 for the extra domain - no extra storage needed - and we'll assume that it's easier to do the second time). Recoup that investment in two weeks.
That's a pretty good ROI. Really, I bet you could share a domain among 20 of these things, and knock out the work in a day once you got the template down. So then you're at $20/day with a $20 investment and $100 of your own time. Recoup investment in a week.
Hell, maybe I'll do this after all. - BrandonAbell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Did you post this just to put a link to your site here?
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Shame on us honest/ethical people getting up at 7:00 am to work our legit cubicle jobs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The thing that doesn't make sense is this: what calendar system is this guy using where he gets *33* days in a month?
- sho222, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8RTFA
- chewbaka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The main problem with this article is that the title is misleading. Their website only makes $30 a month. They justify the $10,000/month figure by saying you can make 333 websites just like it.
Well I can say make 33 million websites just like it and be a billionaire in a month. Obviously it doesn't work this way and it's exponentially harder to hide a few hundred sites under google's radar than it is to hide one or two.
But then again "make $30 a month" doesn't sound as good a title. - OneZeroZeroOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Search for "sex" then right click, view source, select all, copy.
Open notepad. Write a basic HTML page. Paste.
Stick a bunch of adsense ads at the top of the page.
Mess around with the formatting so that in order to see the sex search results the user has to scroll past and look at all the adsense ads. (Add a ***** of [br] tags? Get creative).
Or just write a bot to do this for you. - ubertroll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5# Extract search results from Google or any other search engine. It took us 5 minutes.
# Create HTML page with these search results. It took us 7 minutes.
# Insert Google AdSense code in the way that search results aren't visible without scrolling. It took us 10 minutes.
What do they mean extract search results from google? And what do they mean by create an HTML page based on the results and then insert google adsense code so that search results aren't visible without scrolling? Crappy instructions so it's hard to follow what they mean and how this could be unethical. - Wenham, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6But all the money he makes won't by back his soul.
:'( - lhenkel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Slightly less controversial way to fight MFA sites: http://www.adsblacklist.com/
- kalleanka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hahaha what a idiot. He just made $1 for one days work and now he starts multiplying this with numbers taken from nowhere and end up that he will make $10000 a month. Idiot!
There are so many factors that are involved. In "333 days", who knows what Adsense/Adwords will pay, maybe his site is banned, maybe all keywords don't give him $1, maybe he will end up LOSING $10000 per month in the future.
Come on, give me a break. If he had made $1000 a month now then sure, he might speculate in how to make this into $10000.... But starting with $1 and talking about making this into $10000. Cmon, why not make it into $1000000 when we are into all this. :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From the article:
"We started to earn $1/day after a single hour of work. $1/day is $33/month, spend 333 days to earn $10,000/month. It's that easy."
Such a misleading headline... they made a buck and immediately did the math on it? Hell, some days on my site I make $50 in a day... but the rest of the week can be in the gutters.
Dugg down. - pheonix2og, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@MrUnderbridge-
$10/hr....I'm a college student making about half of that..aka...minimum wage... - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5..and BTW is by the way.. ROFLMAO
- AlanLivingston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Uhh... Maybe your profile name should start with dumb instead of cute. Did you even read the first sentence of the article?
'"Developing Made for AdSense Web Sites for Dummies" tutorial as an attempt to create a vaccine against Made for AdSense web sites.' - rbaibich, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"We started to earn $1/day after a single hour of work. $1/day is $33/month, spend 333 days to earn $10,000/month. It's that easy."
Is it just me or their math doesn't make sense AT ALL? - aembleton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5At least huhcorp.com are honest! From their about page: http://www.huhcorp.com/about.htm
huh? is an enclave of new-age e-movers. We use catchy names for our job titles, like Vision Guidance Leader instead of Consultant. Cool names make us sound smarter and more clever.
Our CEO is rarely in his office, and all female team members are expected to sleep with him, or at least pretend like they want to. Our designers ride Razor scooters around the office, while wearing mail-bag style backpacks to hold their iPods.
We have lots of shiny espresso machines, and all of our new-age e-movers (that's our cool way to say "consultants," remember?) drive to work in VW Beetles. Appearance is everything to us, because we'll get more of your money by looking cool than we will by doing quality work.
If you call our office, the phone will be answered by a very disinterested intern, giving you the impression that we're too important to talk to you. Because we are. - timophy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They survive because you just advertised for them.
- shindig111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That is absolutely true...
- ig0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Made for Adsense.
- roblambert, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I don't understand how this makes any money. You pay for the adwords and then get paid for the adsense clicks. The adwords->adsense click thru is certainly not 100%, and the adsense clicks only pay you a fraction of what you paid for the original adwords click. Do you turn off the adwords after a given amount of time and somehow you still get the traffic?
- EV1L, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4MFA sites all should be banned
- adam.skinner, on 10/12/2007, -5/+81 ... ??? ... Profit!
- kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Making money with adsense is a lot harder than it sounds.
While it is possible to make money with adsense, you have to constantly analyze and tweak your keywords and CPM/CPC, which is a hassle. It's often more trouble than it's worth. - Wenham, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@cutefcuk: Yes it is naughty, but people do it all the time. This is article exposes some of the naughtiness so that you can understand why and how people do this and why Google maybe reluctant to do anything about it…
- violentvinyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't understand why this was buried. You're being told it doesnt work, and it's backed up with personal experience. God forbid the article is approached on a personal level and explained why it DOESN'T work.
I question the motives of this article anyway.
"It will reduce the cost of advertising for ethical companies."
Speaking as a consumer, and not a business owner, is that really something we want to do anyway? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nothing unethical, or easy about it. And you have to prepay the ad costs against possible future revenue, usually 2 months out. You also have to manually find the cheaper keywords to buy to route into the more expensive words, and to say you spend $.05 and get a $10.00 is completeley false. Obviously not all of your visitors will follow through with it.
The fact is, most of the "legitimate" advertisers don't take the time to research and utilize a lot of the cheap key phrases, and that leaves a whole in the system, one that is filled by tons of these kinds of advertisers. The article's author is either clueless or just cheap. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4How does a sleazy site like http://www.huhcorp.com survive? Isn't Google onto this?
- TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5That's "Read The ***** Article" BTW.... we could do this all day.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3good thing i don't have any ethics..
..and the dough begins rolling in (thanks google!) - seraph741, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dont get #7 "Create a new Google AdWords campaign for this keyword by copying any other MFA campaign. It took us 10 minutes."
how do u copy someone else's campaign? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What's wrong with huhcorp?
- violentvinyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed. I miss the old fashion way. What was that stuff we used to have back in the day? Oh yeah. Content.
- mcottier, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The only way, while keeping your dignity, to make money online is to make a website that is useful to people. End of story.
- Pizpump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Slightly less controversial way to fight MFA sites: http://www.adsblacklist.com/"
How disgustingly hypocritical for them to have adsense ads. Amazing. - violentvinyl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"When we deliver your new designs and business strategies to you, they'll be in really snazzy binders that look nice sitting on big, round meeting tables, so you'll think you got your money's worth. When your project has been completed, we'll give you several follow-up phone calls to give the appearance that we even remember who you are or what we sold you."
HAHAHAHAHA - enzomedici, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3
Unethical for getting clicks on ads which Google runs? That's called clever. If anything is unethical it's the entire AdSense program and Google itself for profiting off of the click fraud that is rampant. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2dead link anyway.
- hotdrop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dont think its going to be as effective any more now that everyone and their mother knows about it
- jtron5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If I play my cards right, one day I will be an exec. at Huh-corp.
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