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- paul2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28ip range blocked in 3...2..1. problem solved.
- austindkelly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27robots.txt
- sleazy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17"Thats a pretty has idea some a start up."
Don't eat paint chips, kids. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Have fun weeding out material used under Fair Use and other false alarms!
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Haven't we seen the RIAA and MPAA using systems like this before? I recall seeing quite a few "take down" notices for files that had nothing to do with anything copyrighted...that just happened to carry a filename similar to a copyrighted work.
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It's the Gestapo!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The copyright cat and mouse game should be included in the Olympics.
- HitLines, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11http://www.domain.tld/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Disallow: /warez
Disallow: /pr0n
User-agent: attributor.com
Disallow: / - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+91. You already own copyright of it unless Digg's TOS states otherwise.
2. It's "royalties".
3. It's not always for life. The Beatles' songs will start becoming public domain in 2012, for instance. - bioskope, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10ooooh a copyright spider, hold on while i get my boot to squash this ugly lookin mofo
- mrjames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Spoilsports.
- PureHeretic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7GREED
- shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Companies like this are basically snitches for the RIAA/MPAA. Nothing but hired 'internet mercenaries' if you will. I got a warning from one of those companies the other day... they themselves have no legal power, but they sit and use scare tactics to make you think they do - they'll try and get you to log into their website so that they can confirm your IP address and identity so they can forward it off to the RIAA/MPAA/etc. Buncha greedy lowlifes you ask me. All they do is sit back while their spiders troll P2P networks looking for downloaders.
- MikeSeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is ***** retarded. And, it's been around for a while.
On one of the sites I maintain as a part of my job there's an article about available means of electronic payments over the Internet. The article casually mentions Western Union. Western Union hired some clowns that run a bot. The bot sends DMCA complaints to everyone who uses the words "Western Union" on their web pages. My hosting (ThePlanet) had to hire an entire DMCA department to deal with this stupidity. I actually had to edit out "Western Union" from HTML so that the poor folks could close the DMCA takedown ticket.
Someone is cashing in on this the exact same way they cashed in on the Y2K "bug". I wish I could shoot that someone in the face. - gklitt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Don't worry, the Internet Resistance forces will "raid" the Gestapo (servers) and prevail.
- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6These people are not the creators you want to compensate.
- Trueblood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That's a really great point... I can't imagine that they'll get many hits if they obey robots.txt files, but if they don't, bad things will happen.
It's only a matter of time before 'bots make up more web traffic than visitors do. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If they don't obey robots.txt, sue them for "stealing" your bandwidth.
Or argue that robots.txt is a copy protection mechanism for your site's content and that ignoring it is circumvention. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Or, if they somehow manage to use dynamic IPs (other people's computers via Zune Marketplace, etc.) to do the combing, whenever you publish any information on the internet, make sure you litter it with suspicious phrases so that there will be so much trash that the actual copyrighted stuff will be indistinguishable.
And so, the cat and mouse game begins again... - Markie1006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I sure hope they take fair use into consideration when they come across an infraction.
/rolls-eyes - FreakTrap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I have read quite a few articles regarding Google and YouTube, and what is being planned to combat legal issues, This is what I have surmised they are planning on doing:
Instead of removing copy written videos and materials, they are working to convince media broadcasters that having their material on YouTube is beneficial to them. Viral media and ease of availability of their shows and such will shurley increase viewer-ship and bring about a broader audience. While the TV advertisement money may not be there, neither are the costs of a cable channel and FCC fines. - venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think they should build actual robots to fly about the streets and listen in people's windows for music that hasn't been encoded with the silent-to-human-ears, high-pitched "copy*tone" (R). If they discover you are in breach of a serious copyright violation, they print a receipt and slap it on your door telling you you now owe $400 per violation and your credit is in risk if you do not pay within 21 days.
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Viva La Resistance!
- glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6So... its a giant overpriced web crawler ... ?
"The company claims to be able to spot a customer's content based on the appearance of as little as a few sentences of text or a few seconds of audio or video"...
[ what if you re-encode and cut the clip by a frame or 2 ? ]
"Attributor plans to announce today that it has received about $10 million in funding to date from investors..."
[ wish I could get funding for my half ass hair brained ideas ... asshats] - psjohnso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think I was a little mislead, I thought I was going to see the copyright "tool" although this is interesting information as I try to keep an eye on the internet giants.
A copyright tool for web pages is already in use at http://www.copyscape.com/ if you were looking for an actual tool. - raccettura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Something tells me that will be a fast and rapid bot. Better obey the robots.txt to the finest detail or else.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My dedicated server was shut down for almost two days because an automated system like this sent a DMCA takedown notice to my hosting provider. They immediately suspended my account, no questions asked.
- blueZhift, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have images of thousands of fan sites getting cease and desist orders...forever!
- harris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm not sure if this is relevant to the software, but Ebaumsworld better watchout, they've been notoriously stealing content from SomethingAwful and other sites such as Albino Blacksheep for years. Check out http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=1302 for more info.
- ogletree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They do not have the right to scan the whole internet. My websites are for my visitors not to help some company make money. Spidering a website that forbids spidering is wrong and stealing. It costs me money for these idiots to come and spider my site.
- insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So this program finds anyone who uses copyrighted material whether they have the rights to use it or not? Seems like a head ache.
Not to mention a tool that will release storms of harrassment. - heffae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't worry remember in the US copyright only protects corporations with more money that God. After all can you imagine the financial ruin that a Multi Billion dollar company like Disney would face if I were to use Micky Mouse on a web page without permission.
/sarcasm - jwomble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The title should be "Copyright tools, former Yahoo Inc. executive Jim Brock, and Jim Pitkow, will scan web for violations."
Lame, I do like the term Copyright Tool though. That's a pretty good slam if you ask me. - dotcom101010, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3AKA inst-a- sue
- Zoshchenko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know, I completely understand wanting to be properly compensated for the work that you do. But these people are not going to end up eating garbage and sleeping on the street because somebody posted a video clip on YouTube or plays their song on MySpace. They are greedy bastards who are trying to squeeze every cent out of every "artistic work" so they can become multi-millionaires instead of just a common rich folks. I wish they would realize that the increased exposure they get from these "illegal" uses of their material increases their back accounts far greater than anything they can possibly do. Money-grubbing idiots.
- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2IP lawyers don't care about fair or licensed use. Once they have a range of IP addresses, they will figure who the ISP is and send cease & desist letters en masse.
- terrab0t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You're right. They'll certainly pay no attention to robots.txt. That's just a polite way of telling a search engine "This stuff isn't worth indexing".
What you have to do is protect your stuff behind your webserver or script. Of course, as mentioned above, they will most likely not keep a static and easily determined set of IPs for their crawlers. The war begins. They'll probably end up getting tracked by referrer filtering software just like the current crop of spambots. - andergriff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is primarily being driven by large music companies and the movie industry. However, if this thing is successful, it could spill over into a lot of other areas and provide the means by which almost any person (photographers, garage bands, journalists, etc.) could scan the internet to look for "infringements". This, in turn, could cast a chill over the legitimate creative power of the internet and place even more power in the hands of a few powerful corporations and their executives. And with that power will flow the ability to set our political and social agenda to please a tiny, wealthy elite. Do we want or need snoops like Attributor?
- shotgunefx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think it's viable and likely to give a bizillion false positives. Then what?, people will just start cutting up images and tiling them, etc. Which is not actually a bad idea as it would make it slightly harder for people to snarf your images.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why dont we just shut down the internet and kill each other?
Sharing is caring! - mcraigw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3So what is Attributor Corp's IP range? and Indigo Stream Technologies Ltd.,?
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Phosperos
Sure, that might get the job done, but it would also make the web a ***** place. It's bad enough that some people practice these no-no's, we don't need everyone doing it. - w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2***** Eric Baum.
- djdole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh jeez. *Smacks forehead*
Here comes another batch of Internet faux-police again.
This article sounds more like fear-mongering, than anything that really needs to be worried about.
The amount of processing power and man-hours needed to identify and sort out violations from fair use seems to me to be way more than any company wanting to spend. (At least any company that plans on staying out of bankruptcy that is.)
Especially since there's the issue of jurisdiction that companies like this one (and their financial backers) always seem to forget about. - protogenxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hope they use ZFS or they are going to run out of Hard-Drive Space Fast.
- zarmazievex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21. RAR or ZIP with password
2. put password on forum - alwaysnomadic, on 11/18/2008, -0/+1I cannot imagine that it will be brain science for someone to create a tool which marginally shifts or alters the digital watermarking/unique data structure from the original content to avoid detection without visually impairing the media (no - I have no technical idea of what I am talking about). Good luck to them - it will always be an uphill and ongoing battle but there's always someone who is willing to fight!
Bite the bot. - Phospheros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One of the problems now is that people who put content up do so in text --- text is readable and understandable to this kind of crawler. However, humans can do things these crawlers can not. Take a cue from those trying to ditch spammer email address harvesting and have your files given rather random names, use images for their display with somewhat different backgrounds to them, and use scripts extensively. This wont stop a real live person, but it will stop a crawler easy enough. Its very easy with the processing power available to generate images for files & descriptions and other details, but its way more computationally expensive to try to get a machine to decphier them & often impossible given the variety of backgrounds which can be employed.
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2AKA "Capital Recovery Agency"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1figure out the user agent or ip address of this piece of crap, and block it on your servers.
there are a lot of copyrighted things on my site that i permit other people to use. there are other things i explicitly say are okay for people to use (without permission) for educational use. i don't want to get a billion emails now saying someone used my crap, ooooh... -
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