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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, it works with standard definition, and with any box with an active firewire port.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, this actually works! I've been trying to get my DCT-3412 box to work with firewire, but couldn't find the drivers. Thanks digg!
- zone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3hope this helps the scene to bring better rips (here theres no HD) digg
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3too bad you can't do this with a normal cable box with NTSC... or can you?
- microsoftpwner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3No, all you need to do this is a set-top-box with a firewire port, a firewire cable, and a firewire port somewhere on your computer.
- microsoftpwner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4oh, well thanks for telling us.....
- Junel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg this!, this is very useful!
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does this only work with HD DVR/PVR boxes? I'm going to check my regular non recordable HD box right now for a firewire port.
- toomuchcaffeine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, this is an old topic so chances are pretty good that no one will ever read this but I did a search for "dct3412 firewire" on Google and this is the first thing that came up. The link is dead, anyone have a cached version, or any other suggestions for how to get video off my Comcast DVR and onto my MacBook/iPod? Thanks.
- yorxs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hallelujah, this is digg of the century, I have been wanting to do this for years!
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Doesn't MythTV have this built in? Hook up the cable box via firewire and it can "record" the shows directly, without re-encoding them (unless you want it to do so).
- Habemus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does this still work if the stream is 5C'ed to "copy never" or "copy once"?
Verizon FIOS is 5C'ing everything, even OTA local stations. - soda0289, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How bout in Canada are boxes are from motorola and also have firewire if I rember correctly.
- calabria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1great article, the steps worked perfectly, so many gigabytes! haha thanks!
- ssenne1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1from http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/part76.pdf
e-CFR Part 76.640 Section 4 Subsection i (skip to page 125)
(4) Cable operators shall:
(i) Effective April 1, 2004, upon request of a customer, replace any leased high definition set-top box, which does not include a functional IEEE 1394 interface, with one that includes a functional IEEE 1394 interface or upgrade the customer's set-top box by download or other means to ensure that the IEEE 1394 interface is functional
I read that as I can ask for a cable box that supports firewire, even if they gave me one that does not.
Question: Does anyone have a link for a howto on Linux? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I've been doing for this for some time. It isn't worth as much until someone hacks drivers that can record 5c content. All the really good stuff is protected. Can someone who knows something about drivers try to hack the drivers or something?
- Kermee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, CableLabs is stopping Microsoft from adding CableCARD 2.0 support to XP. Usually, it's never a technological issue. It's political.
CableCARD on Windows Vista Will Require "Certified" Hardware
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2047/cablecard_on_windows - screensnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks, wilkcards! I had no idea this was possible.
- blackmath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Very informative. Diggd.
- maanico1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1no i meant like tv cards or something on the computer
- adizzy615, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Vista media centers are cleared to have cable cards. Actually there is nothing that stops ms from adding cable 2.0 support to xp, I guess they want to give consumers another reason to upgrade.
- WikiTerra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+115 steps?? DAMMIT! When do we get cable cards in our PCs? Digg anyway, though. (Three cheers for screwing bloated media companies!)
- Xtopherous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1My guess is that you're going to need a Firewire port (just a hunch). Everything else seems to be explained nicely in the link.
- draegloth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0works fine on my motorola hd box.. I don't think it's country specific. try it and let us know.
- alexonix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have an HD DVR box from Dish, I looked and it has a USB port, should I even bother trying to connect it or will it not work?
- maanico1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1do u need any specific hardware on your computer?
- microsoftpwner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ya, a firewire port....same port used for DV cameras and some external hard drives
- Tanuki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No, it doesn't work if 5C is set at all, unless you are using a 5C-approved device, in which case it will obey the Copy Once flag, and then that's your one copy.
- RareButSerious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well said; I hope the remedy you suggest is achieved, and I hope to be able to find out about it if and when it is. Meanwhile, it would be good to promote the idea of refraining from sharing anything which respects fair use and isn't intended for sharing. Right now, this pretty much amounts to local OTA stuff and a few musical artists with a smidgen of vision.
Basically, I'd like to see BitTorrent, Grokster, Mute, etc. stocked full of "protected" content, but practically devoid of content that works on the honor system and where the owner has politely asked that it not be shared. I want to see the good guys funded, after all. - bmobile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wonder when someone will release some generic capture drivers that work on XP64. So far, I haven't been able to locate any. :-(
- Tanuki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The 5C protection scheme prevents the cable box from releasing unencrypted data over IEEE 1394, unless the receiving device is a 5C-approved device. In this way it's just like HDCP over DVI.
The protection is one part "broadcast flag" (specifying what you are allowed to do with the data) and one part encryption (meant to prevent those who do not obey the flag, from doing anything).
What we need, to get our fair use rights back, is to defeat the authentication portion of the interaction between the recording device and the playback device. This is a cryptography problem, not a driver problem. The devices we want to use to record the video stream data (our computers) are not approved for this use, therefore we don't have the digital certificates granted to us by the content provider. If we somehow got our hands on a certificate, the content provider could just revoke it.
By FCC regulations, the cable systems are allowed to apply 5C Copy Once protections to anything except rebroadcast over-the-air television. The only content to which they're allowed to apply Copy Never protections are Pay Per View and Pay Video On Demand (although they seem to be allowing HBO and Showtime to apply it to Subscription Video On Demand). - Kermee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0They've been using this method for years along with OTA equipment. Why do you think the NABA pushed the FCC to mandate a "broadcast flag" that was later shot down by the DC Court of Appeals?
- SmackAttack42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"Oh, that is freakin' sweet!"
-Peter Griffin
But seriously, this is friggin awesome!
Digg that!!!! - Kermee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3I'm sorry but these instructions have been available on AVSForum since May of 2004 and I have been doing this for just as long.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=403695
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