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- grendelboogie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32No, domr, spend more time on digg. That is the whole purpose. All your freetime are belong to us.
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Just a couple of points: We are going to eventually allow people to select their default view, and we also will fix duplicate article submissions. The developers are very busy. That's why this is called "beta."
- domr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Funny - if not particularly informative - interview.
I'd still like to see some honest, open responses about some of the critcisims of digg v3 though. - mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Please:
- Fully nested comments. Discussions are incredibly hard to follow, make loading times excessive, and just generally makes the discussion look cluttered and hectic.
- More than 60 seconds to edit. At the very least, give me 60 seconds to click the Edit button. Sometimes it will cancel my editing session when time's up!
- Add a "Windows" category. I know you're all Linux/Apple fans, but you don't need to make your bias this obvious. I'd imagine that the majority of your readers are using Windows anyway.
That's all I can think of right now. - jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Please don't tell my cat this. Oh wait. What are you talking about?
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Points all noted.
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I just love this guy's site, fwiw. I'm sure, as Jon Stewart says, the "fake news" is not the right venue for a truly informative interview...
- CatfishJones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I think "overwhelming success" is a little optomistic. The number of duplicate submissions in the upcoming stories is asinine. I've gotten to the point were I can't stand it in there anymore. It used to be my favorite section on Digg.
And you guys -really- need to write a decent search engine. (then enforce it before submissions as before) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16overwhelming success of v.3? when did that happen? last time I checked the search didn't work and we kept getting lame funny videos that belong on newgrounds.
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17So far, our measurements show pages take less time to load than before... just a minor nit since I happened to be here.
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16There was a time when the general public didn't have to deal with 'betas' I hope this new philosophy doesn't make it's way to hardware...especially cars and aeroplanes.
- roach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Page loads have been a bit long for me, better recently tho!, what really annoys me is digg.com defaults to technology, a subsection for the main page. Why does it not default to all?!?
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19V3 is a mess. It adds nothing (useful..maybe a bit more fodder to make pages take longer to load.) I like the content, that's why i stay, but i wish the option to use the old site was there.
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12(c) Norwegia, 1995. All proceeds go to the Rat & Raven Memorial Fund. Shhh, the Simpsons is on.
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Well, i can assure you, my browser freezes if there's more than say 50 comments for a story, and it didn't before the downgrade.
- riz94107, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11But, but... Norwegia!
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Yeah... the collaborative web makes this useful (i.e. "you guys should of thought of this!" and poof it show up), though in general I agree. I like things to be done. However, we wanted to get a few things tweaked right like this before we opened the containers to the general public (hence the temporary forced login).
- jayadelson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Sound more like a bug than a feature... Please submit it.
- W00DR0W, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I just hope they fix the article submission; people should be warned when they're submitting duplicate articles, Digg never had so many duplicates as when V.3 came out. It's ridiculous
- domr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8No I agree. But I would still be interested in your response at a suitable time - possible when v3 has had a little more chance to settle in though.
I do love digg, but I am getting a bit tired of burying spam from the recent influx v3 bought with it. Maybe it'll settle down over time... maybe I should get out more and not spend my life on digg. :) - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"That's why this is called "beta.""
Beta == feature complete
Digg 3.0 -beta- is not feature complete, and it's surely not fully tested or debugged.
Alpha is a more appropriate term. - Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I hate digg's new layout. So I use 3.5. :-)
(CSS hack that hit the front page, I can't find it any more, not even buried... I sense a deletion..)
But here it is again for the world!
http://digg.oxygenetic.org/ - kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8v3 is great - but as long as you have the CSS hack to make it look like v2.
- Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Little lame to have a Digg news stating "Overwhelming Success" for nothing more then a few site changes.
- canyonblue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9V3 is a nice bit of polish, the AJAX works great etc. but it isn't the revoultion that V2 was. i am in particular disappointed with how the new categories almost seem an add-on with tech being the mandatory default, they won't grow the non-tech portions when they treat is like a red headed stepchild.
so... digg is still fantastic, V3 is more polished than ever... but the big picture view of the future is still a mixed review for this humble user. - RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Overwhelming success? Huh? If almost all of your power users using a custom CSS because they absolutely hate your ugly new design is a success... then yeah - I guess it was a success...
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11"So far, our measurements show pages take less time to load than before... just a minor nit since I happened to be here."
Sure page loads 'there' are going to be faster. Try dealing with page loads when the ping and hops are greater than 100ms and 10 hops respectively.
Page loads are longer... much longer, and the damn script failures are maddening.
And, new visitors to Digg get the 'Digg beta' screen... since when was 3.0 beta?
Everything about 3.0 strikes me as a disingenuous dog and pony show.
Statements like the one I quoted are... bizarre, to anyone who watched the 2.0 -> 3.0 transition.
Stop treating our criticism like some kind of useless flotsam. - yuckfou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The real time stats page looked great on diggnation episode #51. Very slick looking stuff indeed.
My only 2 gripes so far about v3 is that stories now get submitted to technology section when they are actually political or vise-versa. The other being digg pages don't load in firefox until a script being run times out and I physically have to stop the script. If that is happening due to operator error, I would certainly appreciate it if someone would tell me how to correct it.
Hopefully digg can keep the self promoting spammers to a minimum too. - falcon707, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I dunno... I don't like v3 very much. I hate having to log in to look at other sections (I know it's beta, but still). I also feel like it's more bloated than v2.
- deut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7zzzzzzzzz, I'm a little fed up about hearing how digg 3.0 was an overwhelming success.
Come on folks, please answer me honestly - what has changed? How has digg got any better? I'm not asking these questions to be a troll. I've been coming here everyday since last year and it upsets me when I see my favourite site going down the tubes like this.
Kevin, Please listen to your users before you go on and fcuk this site up even further. Let's hear some honest answers to the valid criticisms that your most loyal visitors have made about the new digg. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7They failed to answer the most pressing question of all . . .
. . . Why does Jay Adelson hate kittens?! - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I beleive I speek for a lot of people when I say
TOO MUCH JAVASCRIPT.
thanks. please forward this to the dev team. - domr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Fully nested comments" don't necessarily have to be displayed with indentations, but a 'reply' option on every comment would make things a whole lot nicer.
I've written a large photo blogging site (100,000 members) and I use this approach. Users can keep track of all their comments and replies on a separate 'my comments' page, which instantly shows if someone has posted a reply to any of your comments on any photo (or article in digg's case). - rivviepop, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6amen. the V3 css hack (nav on right) thread is probably the one thing that saved V3 from oblivion for a lot of people, myself included. honestly, what was wrong with the UI of V2 to begin with? (not the code, just the UI). V3 loads a lot slower, is more bloated and "death pauses" more when switching the tab in Firefox foreground/background. let's not even talk about those Flash ads that drive up your linux CPU skyward, thanks to our ancient v7 plugin we're stuck with.
- marauder34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think it defaults to technology because the other topics are 'in beta' right now.
- 2gunnZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If I remember right the Tech section is only default for now.
- diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh yea, and if digg.com was like this last summer, I would have not become such an avid visitor. Seriously, find a way to customize the interface so I can decrease the text size, the "navigation" bar should have an option to move to the right, and find a way to filter out content so I don't have to see a "colbert" video everyday.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Overwhelming Success... yea right. If we want to keep readin digg.... do we really have a choice?
I don't consider something that is forced upon users even if they do like it, a success on any level. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3When the Digg 3.0 Service Pack 1 is released...
- kp3469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"overwhelming success" = large number of new users plus more total hits per unit time. wow, a lot of you folks are so freakin resistant to change. relax. things will get better. and, if for some reason, if they don't, a new digg will rise up and take over. its the way of the web.
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Do you get it yet, Jay, Kevin, and co.?
A majority of users hate 3.0.
It only works well if you have superfast hardware and superfast connections, otherwise, it's a downgrade.
Digg leapfrogged Slashdot because it was user-centric, now that you've turned your back on your users, start looking over shoulder. Someone will fill the gap if you're not going to listen to the users that fill your databases with content.
I discovered Digg last November, and long for the old school Digg.
Digg used to be about users, now it's about money and fame.
*starts looking for css hacks* - Magadass, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Digg 3.0 is a piece of *****! Nothing but problems, and the design is horrible, I am sorry but lets cut through the intensely dense ***** around this subject!
- DarkPrince11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2its not annoying..its just bad marketing..they should've put a better t-shirt up there..
- braddobbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe its just me, but does it bother anyone that the stories aren't listed chronologically anymore? I end up reading the same headlines again and again. I used to be able to read the headlines until I started reading ones I had seen, and then know I don't need to look anymore for new stuff. Do you think a view option could be added for this?
- heretic24, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3OVERWHELMING success! It's amazing -- now there's a list of links to news stories, and people write comments about them.
What is with you fanboys? What is so exciting, so unbelievably amazing, about this site? What does it *DO* for you? What problem is it solving? - marauder34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You do not have to care, but then really would you not like changes that help you find those links more efficiently?
- Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think it's good that people know who runs whatever they partake in, and it's especially good (as you see here) that the people running it get involved at ground level.
I'm a critical person, and although i may sound like i'm slating digg, i'm genuinely not, it was a great discovery (especially since it took me away from neowin where i would have lost my account, and have, for the slightest criticism towards the site.) - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4work is needed on small screen display
reading digg from a nokia 770 is more unpleasant than it should be - shizane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2AWESOME. i love it when i get to read more asskissing that is dug on dig! quick, where's another Kevin Rose interview???!!
- InternetUser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@reldren: Haha, jealous?
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