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- SuperHyperKid, on 02/08/2008, -2/+74This is completely freaking retarded. My mind cannot grasp how this became law. pathetic.
oh yeah..
***** THE RIAA/MPAA - hardcorerikki, on 02/08/2008, -0/+57meanwhile, RIAA forcefully *reduces* the royalties they should be giving to artists, then spread their FUD everywhere, that "artists are starving in the streets because of pirates".
http://digitalmusic.weblogsinc.com/2006/12/06/riaa ... - pianomahnn, on 02/08/2008, -1/+41As long as people continue to avoid purchasing any CDs, the RIAA will soon be forced to shut down. Obtain the album you want through whatever means necessary and send the money directly to the artist. They forced our hand ...
- smashingmonkey, on 02/08/2008, -1/+28Freedom = the right to give away all of your freedoms. Apparently.
- americangoy, on 02/08/2008, -2/+27Artists get only 9% of the total profits from selling of CD's. The rest, 81%, goes to RIAA and companies.
http://gizmodo.com/352762/riaa-wants-to-cut-artist ... - ampersand2001, on 02/08/2008, -4/+28government-sponsored censorship at the colleges and universities?
what's next, burning books?? this is fascism, pure and simple... - CharlesSaint, on 02/08/2008, -1/+23This ***** isn't even surprising anymore. Let's hope this provision gets stuffed out in Congress.
- inactive, on 02/08/2008, -2/+22it's easy to grasp: our 'representatives' are bought and paid for and large corporations pay better than the public does. one solution might be term limits.
- inactive, on 02/08/2008, -0/+18Federal govt has too much power for this ***** reason alone.
They pull this same ***** whenever a state tries to change up its own laws. For example, if the drinking age isn't 21 or marijuana were to become legal, they will threaten to withhold funding.
This government is nothing at all like it was intended to be. - mcnasby, on 02/08/2008, -1/+18I love arguing this point with old professors that have their head in the clouds:
Professor: Copyright infringement is in violation of the law
Me: Why is it a law
Professor: Because congress passed the bill
Me: But what makes it have validity?
Professor: Because congress passed the bill
Me: But we all know that the law what bought and paid for by and interested group. Can you tell me how that works toward the greater good?
Professor: You're missing the point! Congress passed the law!
It really blows my ***** mind that people, with a decent education can just bend over and take it - with no critical thinking involved! So ***** frustrating. - bphicke, on 02/08/2008, -2/+15This is exactly why I don't buy CDs or DVDs anymore. I refuse to help fund these people.
- whyufail, on 02/08/2008, -0/+12This is exactly why nobody wants to stay on campus networks anymore. The filtering has become obscene, and its nigh impossible to access anything short of port 80 anymore without blatantly breaking policy and tunneling through.
- Gryffydd, on 02/08/2008, -0/+11Your college only has a T1? Wow.
- lucutus, on 02/08/2008, -0/+11Though I find it disturbing that this issue made it this far I still have to chuckle a bit. I mean if they actually try to enforce this, people will just hide their activity with encrypted headers, shell accounts, and proxies etc... Once there is enough motivation people will seek out and apply the technology to mask file sharing activity more widely.
- mnky9800n, on 02/08/2008, -1/+11It's not law. When something is passed in the House it then moves into the Senate to be passed as well. If the Senate passes it then it flutters across the President's desk and if he approves of it then it becomes law. Then if someone challenges the law the Supreme Court can decide whether or not it is constitutional. It's called Checks and Balances.
- Damian91, on 02/08/2008, -0/+9God damn people at RIAA, GET A JOB!
- 4degrees, on 02/08/2008, -0/+9its called tenure. :-P
- ctrlfreak13, on 02/08/2008, -0/+8Obviously I'll probably need to be tunneling all my traffic in college just like I am now in high school.
- nopointinnames, on 02/08/2008, -1/+9Members of Congress of course
- jefferygomer, on 02/08/2008, -0/+7Pretty *****. This is what our 110th congress brings us?
Rep. George Miller, ***** you. - lotsofcooki3s, on 02/08/2008, -0/+7it's no surprise... this nation has been sliding down the steep fascist doctrine for a while now
- prleet, on 02/08/2008, -1/+8I would say RIAA/MPAA can suck my balls but instead they can go toss someones salad.
ps
***** comcast too. - sugarhigh4242, on 02/08/2008, -0/+6Thank you for this. Its an incredible failing in the US public school system that kids can be savvy enough to have an opinion of a bill passing in the house, and at the same time not be aware of the process by which a bill becomes law.
Reminds me a little of 1984's ministry of truth. Remove the tools by which people express their discontent (language, education), and any expression will be ineffective. - oldhick, on 02/08/2008, -2/+8Happens every day on Digg. Read the comments from the obesity articles, or the universal health-care plan, or any number of other instances. The bottom line is that every American will sell their freedom for the right cause and the right price. As long as people continue to look at it on a case by case basis and not see the bigger picture, we'll have traded all of our freedoms to live in some monotone, state controlled world.
- jefferygomer, on 02/08/2008, -0/+6House Vote #40 on H.R. 4137
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h200 ... - jfreeman, on 02/08/2008, -1/+7Nothing is for free. It is paid for through much higher taxes.
- mannaran, on 02/08/2008, -2/+7RIAA sucks..!! Need new protocols that pwns the filters..!!
- mashw, on 02/08/2008, -0/+5Well said. How do you think I feel as a libertarian leaning fellow living in Daddy-day-care UK :(.
- midbc, on 02/08/2008, -1/+6i saw a flash and heard thunder when i read your comment
- NoCt1, on 02/08/2008, -0/+5They get a nice kick back for continuing to ***** with everyone else. Why else would they want to allow the RIAA/MPAA to continually take money from artists... Either that or Americangov cant do math!
- BSDaemon, on 02/08/2008, -0/+5ROFL @ T1
- Factionrider, on 02/08/2008, -0/+49% + 81% = 90%. Who gets the other 10?
- bruce86, on 02/08/2008, -1/+5obligatory, its more like NO checks and NO balances right now with the current administration. AMIRIGHT!?!?!
- gutenpress, on 02/08/2008, -0/+4The feds only have this much power because it has been given to them. This bill is a perfect example. There are pages and pages and pages of comments about how Obama is awesome, Ron Paul is awesome, Clinton is awesome, Mcain is awesome with regards to a presidency. Yet there is never any talk of what the representatives and senators are voting on. And _those_ offices are the ones that people can directly influence. Not to mention, _those_ officers are the ones that actually pass laws.
So while all this attention of "who would make the best president" might be entertaining, bordering on interesting at times, where the _real_ focus should be is on the Congress. - ericatdigg, on 02/08/2008, -1/+5since when did getting an education require customer loyalty?
special interest groups like this are basically tyrants....
i haven't bought a CD in over 7 years, but have bought plenty from apple mainly because i don't want the other 8 "filler" songs on the f**king album. - UnlikelyHero, on 02/08/2008, -0/+4the 10th and 9th amendments were effectively neutered ages ago.
- AriseNow, on 02/08/2008, -1/+5No, this is worse than fascism, which is a political ideal, wrong as it may be. This is censorship to protect the (artificially inflated) profits of the **AA cartel. How ironic that the vision of a free market leads to this protectionism which is all but free (as in freedom to compete or to choose).
- inactive, on 02/08/2008, -1/+5Doesn't this violate the tenth amendment?
- gutenpress, on 02/08/2008, -0/+4Here's the actual section of the bill:
H.R.4137
College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)
SEC. 494. CAMPUS-BASED DIGITAL THEFT PREVENTION.
Part G of title IV (20 U.S.C. 1088 et seq.) is further amended by adding at the end the following new section:
`SEC. 494. CAMPUS-BASED DIGITAL THEFT PREVENTION.
`(a) In General- Each eligible institution participating in any program under this title shall to the extent practicable--
`(1) make publicly available to their students and employees, the policies and procedures related to the illegal downloading and distribution of copyrighted materials required to be disclosed under section 485(a)(1)(P); and
`(2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity.
`(b) Grants-
`(1) PROGRAM AUTHORITY- The Secretary may make grants to institutions of higher education, or consortia of such institutions, and enter into contracts with such institutions, consortia, and other organizations, to develop, implement, operate, improve, and disseminate programs of prevention, education, and cost-effective technological solutions, to reduce and eliminate the illegal downloading and distribution of intellectual property. Such grants or contracts may also be used for the support of a higher education centers that will provide training, technical assistance, evaluation, dissemination, and associated services and assistance to the higher education community as determined by the Secretary and institutions of higher education.
`(2) AWARDS- Grants and contracts shall be awarded under paragraph (1) on a competitive basis.
`(3) APPLICATIONS- An institution of higher education or a consortium of such institutions that desires to receive a grant or contract under paragraph (1) shall submit an application to the Secretary at such time, in such manner, and containing or accompanied by such information as the Secretary may reasonably require by regulation.
`(4) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated to carry out this subsection such sums as may be necessary for fiscal year 2009 and for each of the 4 succeeding fiscal years.'. - norman619, on 02/08/2008, -0/+4They have been voted on and a few times some states actually passed term limits. But guess what happened? Our ELECTED officials who are supposed to be voice of the PEOPLE went to court to fight it.
http://allard.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseActi ...
OMG this pisses me off. - Zippo, on 02/08/2008, -1/+5Lobbying is a flawed and incredibly corrupt process.
- Gryffydd, on 02/08/2008, -0/+4Good to see Paul voted against it, though Kucinich voted for it.
- sleepwalkers, on 02/08/2008, -0/+3Except Apple is screwing the artists over on royalties as well, so how is that any better?
- jefferygomer, on 02/08/2008, -0/+3In my opinion, they should scrap the hole damn bill.
- Rikkochet, on 02/08/2008, -1/+4Dear America: This whole "über bill" method of creating laws is broken. Please find another way.
- sw33tsarin, on 02/08/2008, -0/+3If a college on the independent level decided to implement these filters that's one thing. The whole point of our argument is that the government has no room implementing restrictions on college campuses in terms of internet connectivity in the interest of a corporation. Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
- norman619, on 02/08/2008, -0/+3What we need is an old fashioned revolution and overthrow our corrupt government. They have proven many times they don't give a damn what the people want.
- digjam, on 02/08/2008, -1/+4I think ANON should stop worrying about stupid scientology and start attacking these freaks.. I will send in whatever money I can to assist them.
Obligatory .. FTRIAA! - shanomaq, on 02/08/2008, -1/+4Won't stop me and my file sharing friends! If they think they can force us into buying their ***** then the joke is on them.
- bluezombie, on 02/08/2008, -0/+3The actual text says nothing about network filtering, nor does it ever ask for any reporting or statistics regarding effectiveness. It reads simply:
`(1) make publicly available to their students and employees, the policies and procedures related to the illegal downloading and distribution of copyrighted materials required to be disclosed under section 485(a)(1)(P); and
University SysOp: "Here's your login id, your password, and we have to hand you this pamphlet but you don't have to read it."
`(2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity.
University SysOp: "So, Mr Director sir, if we formulate a plan of sorts to address this issue we can apply for grants that we can then use to beef up our infrastructure and network security."
IOW: BFD -
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