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- rahein, on 09/16/2008, -0/+57Science needs to be open for everyone!
- SEOAly, on 09/16/2008, -0/+32The only reason NOT to share information is the intent to manipulate it for gain at some point in the future. Anyone trying to hide information from anyone, for any reason, has something to hide themselves. What ever happened to transparency? Accountability? We should have access to absolutely ANYTHING that has been funded using our tax dollars - and I do mean ANYTHING...not just scientific research.
- digalibert, on 09/16/2008, -0/+30The recent foray into open access by NIH is one of the best and most important scientific publishing efforts, it needs to be encouraged, not blocked!
- BigManOnCampus, on 09/17/2008, -2/+26Not only should science be open, but publicly funded research should be available to those who paid for it, namely the American taxpayers. This is wrong on every level.
- thealsir, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8I don't know about anyone else, but I just hate it when academic libraries are closed off to anyone who doesn't have a subscription. To me it's the antithesis of scientific progress to keep information closed behind a login screen and $$$.
- waspbr, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8I keep thinking that we are becoming the next monarchy/nobility like system, where the rich/corporate and the politically affiliate people have access to the benefits of medicine and technology and the peasants don't. Come to think of it, even today about 50 million people in the US don't have access to health care... it doesn't seem to be that far off...
I often just dismiss the thought as being paranoid - arjie, on 09/17/2008, -0/+6As a non-American who frequently uses Pubmed, thank god for open access. There's no way I'd be able to afford Elsevier's fees (though we do have an account here).
- chrissku, on 09/17/2008, -1/+6I really think Congress should be worrying about the financial crisis right now. We can worry about copy rights and patents as soon as we know for certain that we aren't going completely broke.
- Calinthalus, on 09/17/2008, -0/+5Knowledge is Power
Power Corrupts
Study Hard
Be Evil - 5xSTUN, on 09/17/2008, -0/+5That's like poop trying to one-up toxic waste, my friend.
- pradvan, on 09/17/2008, -1/+5Congress'sesses's'ses'ess's'
- DarkNemesis618, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Wrong on so many levels, we're not talking about company secrets, music, movies, etc. We're talking about the advancement of scientific studies that should benefit everyone, not just those directly involved. Part of this benefit is to be able to see the results to see what scientists have learned so we can share the knowledge.
To quote an old saying "Knowledge is Power" - jezsik, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Let's see, the taxpayers fund billions in research every year. These journals don't pay the researchers or reviewers but actually get paid to take the copyright away from the researcher. Talk about legalized theft!
- strictnein, on 09/17/2008, -1/+5Are the dems actually trying to one up the repubs in terms of being absolutely worthless?
- Junior612, on 09/17/2008, -0/+4Since when is Science copyrighted?
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3"research it has funded"? you mean we funded right?
- strictnein, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3Science(TM)(C)(R)
- arjie, on 09/17/2008, -0/+3Good point. Isn't all of it effectively 'derivative work'?
- SpinningHead, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2And, to put this in perspective, some of these journals can cost universities up to $1mil per year...for research funded by the taxpayer and performed by scientists who pay to publish it and do not get the copyrights.
- doktorrocket, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2I wonder if this is due at least in part to the fact that anonymous genetic databases aren't as anonymous as originally thought:
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nationworld/sto ...
I think the results of federally funded science should be as open and available as possible, but I'd like to see a slightly higher standard with NIH studies compared to, say, NASA, NOAA, etc; especially when individuals medical, genetic, and demographic information might be at risk. - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2nah, that was only a recent thing.. this is all abooot money
- docsavatchniya, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2echo much?...
peace... - strictnein, on 09/17/2008, -1/+3The US provided 1/6th of the funds for the LHC. Look at us stifle science... by burying scientists in money?
Major particle accelerators have basically alternated between the US and Europe. This one is in Europe. Hopefully the next will be in the US. - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1Tax payers and joe public get screwed again.. I sense a them running here
- DryMaltExtract, on 09/17/2008, -2/+3Does it even really matter? All they have to do is stifle scientists even more and they'll just go to less restrictive countires. Science is leaving America already, LHC, etc.
- BrewmasterC, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1NIH has no excuse to hoard data. Heck, the data they produce is probably more important than their analysis anyway. Clock cycles are cheap. Sequencing billions of reads is expensive.
- puffenbargerme, on 09/19/2008, -0/+1I think that this is one of the areas that the US is still continuing to go strong in. In the near future, there will continue to be a wealth of entrepreneurs that create the new Google or Facebook. However, if the US education system does not really embrace and teach this new technology, the US will end up in a position similar to our current status in the math and science world.
- KelticKal, on 09/17/2008, -0/+1There is no need for hard-copy scientific and technical publishers anymore anyway. Researchers should just publish on the web so everyone has free access.
- collytade, on 09/22/2008, -0/+0I agree with KelticKal. Reseachers should publish on th web, if more people have access and can study their work, the researchers can get more recognition.
- simmin, on 09/17/2008, -0/+0War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
Hopefully it never even comes close to either of these... - billbugger, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1They need an open source license they can use for such projects/research, like creative commons.
// probably do, i didn't look. - NotYourProdigy, on 09/17/2008, -1/+1Open source and the internet have a funny way of allowing the truth to rise to the top. Hmmm.
- wukillabee, on 09/17/2008, -11/+1hey .. crysis warhead is out.. its EA, you must pirate
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