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- thesimo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+92if his seniors didnt have backup plans in place, its their fault
- DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -3/+81It's my first day!
- shifty2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+78• 70 people worked weekends, overtime for six weeks to re-enter the lost data
• Error cost the state $220,000"
Depending how this tech wiped the information, most data recovery center should be able to piece it back together. now if he used a drill and drilled holes in the platters and ignited some thermite on it, they might a have to re-enter all the data.
Data recovery would have been the first place i would go, spend a few grand and get the data back in about a week. better than what's quoted above!
I also doubt their IT department. I do test restores on a spare server every month to make sure my backups actually work. - tfratzke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+70@ solemnraven
You have a friend that's a deer? - TheCash, on 10/12/2007, -8/+75*Update*
Whoops, my bad. Apparently we will be losing some money out of this little debacle.
"All told, the overtime and extra staff cost about $220,000. If the state doesn't step in and pick up the bill, it will cost everyone about 37 cents from their PFD."
37 cents... damn... I had plans for that 37 cents. I was gonna buy... um... can you still get anything for 37 cents? A Stamp! I was gonna buy a sta.. what? They are raising the price of stamps again? Oh.... ok well I was going to make a phone ca.... oh wait I have a cell phone now. Well I was going to buy a handfull of M and M's next time I go to the tire place to get my winter tires put on, dammit. This jackass cost me a handfull of candy coated chocolate! Burn in hell tech man!! - Azimuth1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+67"....*****."
- OneZeroZeroOne, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61"wish i had that kind of time,"
WTF are you doing commenting on Digg then if you're so overworked?
Maybe you could use this time to do some restore tests.
Back to work peon! - u8myfoood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39*Ctrl - Z*
- Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40This is just stupid. With something THAT valuable you need another backup. And it said he also formatted the backup disk? Who the hell does that? Why is it even at the same location? What about tape? That guy isn't at fault. He might be a *****, but his higher ups really dropped the ball.
These are things they teach in Computers 101. Just pathetic. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Why can't something like this happen to all the records and back ups of some of the companies I owe money too.
- euphemizeme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Ever deleted some pr0n, and then wished later that you had it back? But were unable to find it, no matter how far and wide you searched... sleepless nights spent in some of the most virus-ridden places on the Internet. Nothing more heart-breaking. Well, except maybe this; but only by a hair.
- posergeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27Who knew the state of Alaska used Geek Squad for tech work
- bobcrotch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Gogo gadget tinfoilhat!
- waxoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23I think this applies:
http://content3.i-am-bored.com/games/4135_problemsolvingflowsheet.jpg - Leomarth, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27Power corrupts.... Absolute power corrupts.... my data? Ok, bad joke.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24Uh.. thecash, what the hell are YOU talking about?
A link to your claims would be helpful, rather than blurting out the exact opposite of what every other article I've seen has said.
USA Today, cnn, and AP say: Main crashed, backup crashed, backup of backup crashed.
SUPER SPECIAL UNKNOWN HAPPY SOURCE WITH FREE CANDY SAYS: Main is OK! Backup is OK! Backup of backup crashed. - vstmonger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1910 to 1 he was just doing what he was told to do, by the boss.
- ttamshadbolt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Totally the companies fault. No sympathy at all. Your just asking for trouble without a reliable backup strategy.
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15cause they have competent IT departments
- monkeysteps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Wow...title totally misleading. The data erased was the application data for permanent fund dividends and has nothing to do with the fund itself. Although costly and a real screw up..has nothing to do with the value of the fund.
- XIUgraag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Forgot the im in ur computer wiping ur $38 BILLION funds
- TheCash, on 10/12/2007, -31/+43Uh... what the hell is this story talking about? Does USA Today not fact check?
They were testing the backup of a backup, and it failed. The original info, as well and the first back up, are both fine so no money or information was actually lost. Yeah it's going to take some extra man hours to find out why the second backup failed, and then correct the problem, but why the heck is USA Today devoting an entire article on a story our local media only spent about 3 minutes on after it happened?
We're still going to be getting our PFD's in October, so the people 'affected' by this little boo boo don't really care, so why should any of you? - locnguyen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12***** happens.
- sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13See, that's what OFF-SITE backup is for... why on earth people with genuinely critical information put their backups of the data in the same physical location as the originals, I have no idea. But yeah, off site backup would've made this level of idiocy just that much harder to pull off.
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11i was able to recover a porn collection once with Undelete
- slipgrid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11To err is human, to really ***** up requires root.
- floridiot2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"My bad."
- OutcastJiob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Yeah, it's the government, but it's in Alaska, dude. The government is probably elks.
- Four20, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I would be shaking so much in Alaska, that I would probably hit the wrong key too.
- glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Actually most competent enterprises put that much work into their backups, or at least have the strike of genius to try data recovery. Unless he did like an 8 way random format they should be ok. It's not that hard to check your backups either. Just set up a job that runs every so often to dump the data from tape, then just email the file dump information to yourself. Then every month you get a pretty report that says... hey shiz works ! Then you feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that you will someday be the hero.... That'll be 80 dollars :0)
- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Well, it said that there were back-up drives in place, but he somehow formatted them accidentally as well.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Your dad is Ren?
- statikuz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8No, the tech didn't wipe the backup tapes, he trashed the original and backup drives, then they tried to restore from tape but they were "unreadable."
- didoubleg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Nick burns your friendly company computer guy"..............MOVE!!!
- housetim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8see what had happened was.....
- psycho79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"If you erase the debt records, then everyone gets to start over." - Tyler Durden
- faskippy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ thecash...and to think, they could've just asked you.
- rokinroj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Aren't backups and restores done by scripts? Or at best shouldn't they be? Seems a bit 1994 to have a team dedicated to backing up and verifying the integrity of the backup images.
- sdpdt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"...and $71,800 for computer consultants."
$71,800 for trying to retrieve lost data?
Ripped off. - ryanknapper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If the US President wasn't so gloriously incompetent, how would the world's comedians write new jokes for Dane Cook?
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've seen raid controllers do some crazy things. Once we were adding a mirrored drive to a raid array, the controller said it was copying the data from the source drive to the mirror, only when it finished, both drives were formatted. It was a Dell server, and apparently this is a known issue for that particular controller.
Took about 8 hours of data recovery, but we got everything back with some data recovery software. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"It was a Dell server, and apparently this is a known issue for that particular controller."
Dude! You're getting a Dell^H^H^H^H^H^***** in the ass! - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@jimv:
Fishes is also a correct plural form of fish. The same goes for elk. If you're going to point fingers so quickly at least be right. - futureisours, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Remember, this is the government you're dealing with.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@sporkmonger:
Yes off-site backups are a Good Thing, but even just testing their backups would've been sufficient in this case (as many others before me have already said).
When was the last time you tested your backups? I'm off to check mine now, and thinking about modifying my backup script to store the output of `ls -lR` and a hash of the archive along with it (similar to an ebuild digest for portage) and having another cron job to test backups regularly. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you. - ckedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah -- I'm sure they're all incompetent and you're some "master google-wizzard genious" who could have saved them 20 man months and $200,000.
NOT. - RavagesOfTime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"....Damn...."
I'm taking my lunch now...and I've got a doctor's appointment. - dbstovall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+638 Billion? Oil funded sales account? So that is about what? One days profits? Two?
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Shifty:
With $38 Billion in funds at stake, I think data recovery was certainly on the table, but the mission critical nature of the problem probably required that all the data in the system be deadly accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong, but data recovery isn't generally 100%. Sometimes things get lost or corrupted in the process.
And, certainly, if that wasn't the case, the tech was working with financial data. Financial data on 800,000 accounts. If he was to format the disks, I would certainly hope that he deca-wiped the thing with zeros, so that information would stay secure. - ryanknapper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why would they hire someone who accidentally screws things up? Geek Squad would want him, Fry's wants people who intentionally wreak havoc.
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