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- Dynamoo, on 07/16/2009, -1/+36Hopefully the first of many, quite a lot of disreputable companies do this.. and it's usually fairly obvious when they are.
- IgorUnchained, on 07/16/2009, -0/+31Im not only the president of Lifestyle Lift, Im also a client.
- Stev3nSoo, on 07/16/2009, -1/+30This should be happening much more often.
- inactive, on 07/16/2009, -0/+20I expect this kind of thing with made for TV *****, but not surgery.
- ChromaVita, on 07/16/2009, -0/+18A++++++++
GREAT COMMENT! WILL READ AGAIN! - citn, on 07/16/2009, -1/+17you're mistaken! those fantastic products from Lifestyle Lift have changed my life around! i cannot imagine a single moment with out them!
also we're not douche bags! - Cashezo, on 07/16/2009, -1/+13Wow what douche bags.
- bluekangaroo, on 07/16/2009, -0/+8I wonder when the hammer comes down on Yelp..
- sodoh, on 07/16/2009, -0/+8Sadly it is not easily obvious at all for the more skilled ones. Often the companies will employ a number of users who have the job to maintain 50 or so accounts across multiple websites. They would then work in a team to spam covertly.
For example. First they might post asking which product is best for X. Then a day or few hours later another account suggests Y and then alternate fake accounts from other users also give it praise. If someone actually says Y sucks then they use those accounts to attack that persons opinion.
They would also use this for spamming viral videos, mission statements, etc.
There is a well detailed write up on it somewhere, don't have the link offhand. I think Penny Arcade did do a write up on it one time though and SA caught Sony out on it with PSP stuff.
http://consumerist.com/consumer/all-i-want-for-xma ... - skinrock, on 07/16/2009, -0/+6Sense, this makes none.
- esco, on 07/16/2009, -0/+6I don't understand how is this suppression of speech? Sounds to me like false advertising. They created sites and posted fake testimonials on them.
Article: "Lifestyle Lift also registered and created stand-alone Web sites, such as MyFaceliftStory.com, designed to appear as if they were created by independent and satisfied customers of Lifestyle Lift."
You: "The web sites that host the review are responsible for monitoring the quality."
Sounds like you want companies to monitor themselves? Are you high? - darksecret, on 07/16/2009, -0/+5Held...for 8 years, oh yeah you fall into the 15 or so percent of people who were asleep during the past decade.
- tehstyles, on 07/16/2009, -0/+5The sherdog and bodybuilding.com forums are full of paid internet posters. I had no idea this was illegal. How was newyork able to track them down?
- shagg187, on 07/16/2009, -0/+4All I Want for Xmas is a PSP!!
- Myonosken, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3You think that'd stop them?
- ShingoEX, on 07/16/2009, -1/+4And someone's stupidly gotta shoehorn some Obama hate for no reason whatsoever.
- acknotSW, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3I always just assumed that more than half of all reviews on a popular website were fake.
- Sagags, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3they won't stop until somebody is dead.....
- Sideshowslob, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3If you speak poor English, I'd recommend not using as many big words.
- warp99, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2And before there's any argument about what is required by law:
FTC Moves to Unmask Word-of-Mouth Marketing Endorser Must Disclose Link to Seller
By Annys Shin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
(except)
The Federal Trade Commission yesterday said that companies engaging in word-of-mouth marketing, in which people are compensated to promote products to their peers, must disclose those relationships.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - warp99, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2@4AntiStupid
By law a company has to disclaim if the people making the testimonials are paid actors. In this case you have hired personnel making statements about the product or services as testimonials without disclosure. In both cases it's deceptive marketing and violates most state consumer protection laws. - skipvt, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2Well played sir!
- ikartik90, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1you misdo! you suffer!! :/
- Twinnie, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1We should ask David Manning for his opinion.
- DouglasQ, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1Most of those things are in some way dubious.
- warp99, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1For anyone who thinks this practice is not illegal:
FTC Moves to Unmask Word-of-Mouth Marketing Endorser Must Disclose Link to Seller
By Annys Shin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
(except)
The Federal Trade Commission yesterday said that companies engaging in word-of-mouth marketing, in which people are compensated to promote products to their peers, must disclose those relationships.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - inactive, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1lifestyle lift has something to do with spatula of some kind ?
- ChinezePanda, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1well... goodbye Lifestyle Lift.
- smacksaw, on 07/16/2009, -1/+2Yeah, my mom went there and I told her not to go. It's pretty obvious that the reviews suck, but it's the same bunch of old people feeding off of each other and chain emails about Obama's birth and other totally bizarre stuff that gets sent around. A bunch of them went there. They probably got a chain email to begin with. I didn't care for the salespeople in the office. Yeah, salespeople.
I thought they did a ***** job and charged way too much money. I just emailed her the story...you know how it is, if it gets emailed to them, it's true! Good to know. Scammers. - s0nicfreak, on 07/16/2009, -1/+2Please, stop using babelfish or whatever, none of your comments ever make sense.
- sponeil, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1They should've been fined a lot more.
- mmrp, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1The Purdy paint brush folks (part of Sherwin Williams) had their marketing firm (M Force, Brown & Martin) spamming usenet and message boards with fake customer testimonials. Details:
http://www.ownrecognizance.com/purdy.html - inactive, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1oh got it all wrong, would be more of something like :
I've liked thveir productve vsoo much tvhat i bougtve the Vhole Companyvvvv... - MelissaOfTroy, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1My company does this all the time. I wish they would get fined.
- happyMensch, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1I ask people to review my company by posting online (I give them the link) or by emailing me. If they email me, I'll look up my business via google maps and then post their reviews. If i were to not-post negative reviews, would I be in danger of being prosecuted?
- sexybobo, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1Lots of fake reviews on amazon but they are not from the company trying to sell the product usually.
- ZacharyTG, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1Cough, cough, (Dell) cough.
- NeddieSeagoon, on 07/16/2009, -0/+0Mark V. Shaney, is that you?
- unpredictedM, on 07/16/2009, -0/+0very true...doesn't this type of thing happen on amazon?
- Coffeeflavor, on 10/30/2009, -0/+0This is really sad. A frail attempt on making the public believe something false. There are a lot more marketers who use this scheme. It's all a matter of catching them.
http://www.cosmeticsurgerytoday.com/skin-resurfaci ... - kkiran, on 07/16/2009, -1/+1Trust me, many companies do that. I have seen many such reviews on Yelp! It is really unfortunate but well, that is the reason consumerist and all other critics exist : Do your research before you buy a product. A simple 'Google' will do!
- 4AntiStupid, on 07/16/2009, -1/+0So, you think those testimonials on infomercials are real people? That's a standard marketing method.
- inactive, on 07/16/2009, -2/+1They should have covered their tracks better. Like, hire people through intermediaries.
- crackmeuppp, on 07/16/2009, -4/+1DouglasQ,
You are to much the optimist! - 4AntiStupid, on 07/16/2009, -8/+1It's annoying but the government should not be involved in suppression of speech. The web sites that host the review are responsible for monitoring the quality. It's in their best interest to not be known for allowing fake reviews on their site. Also all you have to do is make it very public the company posts fake reviews and should not be trusted.
- crackmeuppp, on 07/16/2009, -11/+1It simply boils down to this. We have an ex-drug addict(?) holding the highest office in the land!
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