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- Crisender111, on 08/22/2008, -1/+23Isnt there something like Gnet?
Google...Google where art thou? - Dalhectar, on 08/22/2008, -0/+17Eventually, people will have to choose to stick with Comcast and accept this crap, or ditch them outright in favor of either FIOS or DSL. If you live in an area with FIOS, great; otherwise, DSL. What difference does the speed difference make between DSL and Cable make when Comcast is slowing you down? But if people just fork money over to Comcast, they will continue unabated.
- galeninjapan, on 08/22/2008, -10/+27"Why do Americans fail to stand up to their basic rights "
Internet isn't a basic right. - Mariasha, on 08/22/2008, -3/+18Obligatory ***** THE RIAA comment.
- inactive, on 08/21/2008, -0/+15I ignored this situation for so long because I lived in Japan. Now that I am back in the U.S, I hope Cox cable isn't evil like Comcast.
- Linkin4, on 08/22/2008, -2/+16Lucky, Comcast just gave me a threatening call to not download anymore or they would cancel my services for 12 months, *****. I'm a paying customer on an unlimited plan, unlimited should mean unlimited. 650gb down in one month was apperently "more than they had ever seen". ***** you comcast *****
- Neoanarchist, on 08/22/2008, -0/+14That's a lot of porn, dude.
- Zipko, on 08/22/2008, -0/+14"if I'm uploading nothing and downloading 3k/sex on a demonoid torrent"
Freud says you download too much porn. - Cerialthriller, on 08/22/2008, -0/+12because they sell it as unlimited internet access. throttling is limiting.
- Keddren, on 08/22/2008, -1/+12Not sure I care since I'm switching from Comcast cable to Fios on Tuesday :D
- 4Paws, on 08/22/2008, -1/+12I'm on Comcast right now
It ***** sucks - Hermmunster, on 08/22/2008, -0/+10In my town there was one company that sold broadband. Qwest was just beginning to implement. I live in a small town.
Then Comcast came in. They essentially told the current provider that if they didn't agree to divide the town up they'd steal it all. What happened next was that in portions of the town if you buy from the original provider they are actually using Comcasts lines. What does this mean? It means that even if you choose the competition you could still be loosing out and have to deal with Comcast's unfair practices. - inactive, on 08/22/2008, -1/+10Problem is, cable companies are given contracts with cities for cable service. Thereby giving them a monopoly in certain locales. If I want cable, where I'm at, it's either Time Warner or nothing. I've never understood why this goes on, but it does.
- DeathfireD, on 08/22/2008, -1/+10Because people have little choice in what ISP they can choose from. Most of us only have one choice and thats usually Comcast. ISP's know this and ***** all over their customers because they know theres no place for you to run if you dislike the service you're getting. So people can wine and bitch all they want about slow speeds or being throttled, but nothing will ever happen until the FCC or some other legal group jumps in to slap the ISP on the wrist. But as you can see, when that happens, it only pisses the ISPs off more and causes them to "rethink" their plans on how to piss their customers off even more.
- Yatti420, on 08/22/2008, -0/+8CRTC Vs ROGERS|BELL...
- inactive, on 08/22/2008, -1/+9Enjoy your day. It was one of the finest days of my life. I marched down to Comcast with my cable box and told them what I thought of their service. Then, they proceeded to give me $150 to keep quiet and not to tell my friends how bad they suck. They throttled me for 4 months, refused to repair external lines which were shorting out when it rained and blamed my network for the problem.
- inactive, on 08/22/2008, -0/+8Freud was too wired on coke to appreciate empornium.
- LeviTheSmith, on 08/22/2008, -0/+6640GB?!? What did you download? I am actually interested in what you spent 640gb on. Please papa Linkin, tell me a story
- staticneuron, on 08/22/2008, -0/+5Oh no.... don't get me wrong. I am hoping for a viable alternate to show up in my area but the term "basic right" just seemed way to dramatic for me. If I really wanted to make a change I can just decide to live without. For now I tolerate them but make no mistake, if the service made me mad I would make sure to hit them where it hurt..... their subscribers.
If people want to make a big deal about this..... make a push. Drop Comcast and convince others to do that with you. - conorkirk, on 08/22/2008, -0/+5Digg me down, but Comcast isn't that bad (for me). I get a pretty good speedtest score, it has only gone down once (had it for 2 years at least), and if everyone in the house is on it, it still goes strong.
Speedtest.net score (current): http://www.speedtest.net/result/312454022.png
my best score: http://www.speedtest.net/result/305432122.png - Xanium4332, on 08/22/2008, -0/+5No, but that doesn't mean we're not in the same boat. Come to the UK, where all 'unlimited' broadband services are either throttled or capped. I'm serious, you can see broadband adverts saying 'Unlimited', no * or anything, yet if you read the T&Cs, there's a fair usage policy which capps you at 20gb or something. How can you advertise unlimited, but specifically state the cap, and not break any laws (false advertising).
- krahzee, on 08/22/2008, -0/+4Comcast customer here.
Throttling strictly for the sake of doing so is not the way to go. Especially when it is not speed based, but traffic type based or when there is no strain on the network.
On the other hand, if they have to cap the speeds to compensate for a heavy load on the network causing BT speeds to take a slight dip for an hour or two, to ensure others have reasonable access speeds for things like videos, I have no issue with that. This rings even more true if we are talking about 60 minutes instead of 55 to DL a large file.
What is the issue is that they make no attempt to communicate this to their customers. Had they done that, they could give people an option to either stay with them or seek an alternative like DSL. - inactive, on 08/22/2008, -1/+5I download around 150 gigs average a month - and that's a ton of *****. Mostly off hours late at night.
650 gigs just seems amazing. Did you download every blu-ray rip available? - TwiceHephaestus, on 08/22/2008, -1/+5If I pay x dollars for unlimited bandwidth, n megabits per second speed, I expect to get it.
If you think that's wrong, I've got a 1000 MPG sportscar I'd like to sell you. It can go 0-160 in 1.2 seconds for $5,000. - Hermmunster, on 08/22/2008, -2/+6"Heavy bandwidth users" is a subjective term. It could mean anything they want it to mean whenever they want it. What the FCC should also have looked at is how Comcast defines their policies regarding high bandwidth and what they did when they sold the service.
I suspect Comcast is still in deep ***** and will continue to be so for some time. Comcast's problems were foreseeable. They easily could have predicted heavy use. In fact, for nearly 10 years they have been complaining of heavy use. So, why haven't they done anything about it? Nothing was stopping them. They could have implemented existing technologies long ago. They could have been phasing them in long ago. Instead, they raised prices, lowered service, lowered customer service levels, and bitched. - Crisender111, on 08/22/2008, -11/+15Why do Americans fail to stand up to their basic rights even after seeing
that one by one each right is being ***** in the ass by the capitalist pigs?
Why not be more like the European counterparts?
I am amazed their hasnt been a class action lawsuit yet. And the ISP's
actually have the balls to talk to their customers in the face. The ISP's should
be as meek as a shy servant.
Hope some ISP stands up, or newly rises, that people would love to truly embrace. - icndvl, on 08/22/2008, -1/+5DOCSIS pipes use shared bandwidth. So you share the same bandwidth as everyone else in your neighborhood. The pipes do not have the capacity for everyone to use all bandwidth 24/7. Its a technological limitation of DOCSIS.
- BeatPunchbeef, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3Word
I have Surewest hooking a 10Mbit Fios as we speak. I get to call Con-cast when I get home and tell them to cram it with walnuts.
I cant wait to take the Fios for a spin. - ptxyz, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3The anger is actually over Comcast offering "unlimited plans", and then backing out on the deal (they basically lie to your face).
- inactive, on 08/22/2008, -1/+4"Yeah, well who's gonna support it, kid? You?"
"You bet I could! I'm not such a bad admin myself. C'mon, we don't have to sit here and— " - freezerburn666, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3game on
- magikz, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3Wasn't one of the holy internet commandments: Thou shalt clog the internet pipelines with an ever increasing amount of pr0n?
- secrity, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3I have heard of some people having problems, but I think that my Cox broadband is great. I strongly dislike Cox digital cable because it uses SDV.
- seraph582, on 08/22/2008, -2/+5Remember fanbois - SONY is a major proponent!
- tylermenezes, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3So? Download all your pirated DVDs at night, they're only going to slow you down when it's needed to keep everyone else moving, lest they incur the wrath of the FCC. The internet does not scale well, and I think this is good to prevent the people who insist on torrenting movies during the day from slowing down those who want to get work done or do something more reasonable.
Don't accuse me of having any relation to the cable companies, I don't. I still hate them, but I think this is one of the few "bad" things I agree with as a policy. - secrity, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3For most people the decision for choosing an ISP is a choice between dialup, DSL, and the local cable company. Some people are fortunate to have a second broadband chice, such as Fios.
- inactive, on 08/22/2008, -1/+4What's next is we demand better service. And get it.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3What color?
- Pecheckler, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3650GB in one month? I hope to god you are at least exaggerating, because that amount of bandwidth consumption is absolutely insane for a residential customer.
I once used just over 200GB in a month and got a threatening phone call. I simply asked to be upgraded to the business class line, for $15 more a month. Now I have three times as much upload bandwidth as before, and nobody has called me since. - Afterburn, on 08/22/2008, -0/+3That is a ***** of downloading to be honest.
- samard2002, on 08/22/2008, -0/+2I worked at an ISP during dial-up days. It's not made up. We talked about our high usage customers all the time. Back then, not only were they sucking more bandwidth, but they were using up a port in the modem bank 24/7. People would routinely cut loose their high usage customers. It was in the terms of service, even back then.
- samard2002, on 08/22/2008, -2/+4Those are called BBSes. They exist now and did before the internet. Enjoy your dial up experience.
- cthielen, on 08/22/2008, -1/+3"Why do Americans fail to stand up for their rights" sounds okay though.
Internet isn't a right, but access to it should be. It isn't a collection of hobbyists and universities anymore, it contains important political commentary, news information not found on the MSM, and even job opportunities.
Electricity isn't a basic right, but it's illegal in many (most?) areas of the US to live in a house without it. When Edison first presented electric lights to NYC, it absolutely wasn't considered a basic right, but as the technology grew ubiquitous, it became a legal requirement, though still not a right.
I'm not saying at this point in the Internet's development it's cheap enough or useful enough to be considered a basic right, but I'm saying that if it was a right, it would be a wonderful public service, much in the same way our tax-funded public education system is a wonderful idea (even if it is having trouble). - carlosos, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2What kind of data storage system do you have? A NAS? I not even have one hard drive that is that big and I wouldn't want to buy a new one every month. Every 6 months for a new one is good enough for me (even if they get bigger every year)
But I agree with you that you should be able to use the connection as much as you like if you have an unlimited plan. They probably lost money that month with you as customer and don't want to continue to lose money the next few months :) - Linkin4, on 08/22/2008, -1/+3Music, movies, and games. With a Discography at 500mb to 4gb, a movie at 700mb to 4.5gb for hd, games at 6gb a piece now, and tv series are ***** knows how big, some 20gb+, it's possible, although i acknowledge it's a bit extreme. I did rough math and I think it would be possible to pull down about 2tb through the line in 31 days, but I admit my math was very quick. But for the record I didn't download anything, I am poor at network security and I think someone hacked me and did it all ;)
- carlosos, on 08/23/2008, -0/+2The problem is that the ISPs will use that to charge even more overall. I don't have a problem with fair prices but what ISPs have shown is that they keep the current prices and just add charges at a even more ridicules rate like $1/GB or even more.
How about charging $10-$20 for the connection plus 10cent a gb? That's what amazon charges for transfers (without the connection fee) and they seem to still make money. So why do ISPs have to charge 10-20 times as much when they do the by GB charging in addition to the high monthly fee?
If they would charge like I said above than that would come out to be about 250gb of transfer when they charge $20 for the connection plus 10cent a GB for what I get with my current unlimited plan. Most people according to Time Warner only use 20GB on average which would mean that the average person saves $23 a month or better said they would lose on average $23 every month in revenue if they would use "fair non-monopoly" prices. - SchmuckofNI, on 08/22/2008, -0/+2Why pay for something that was free a while ago? That old man can go on dial up if thats all he does. Hence the reason why isps have different packages that advertise different speeds.
- adml_shake, on 08/22/2008, -1/+3Basically all this proved was that the FCC's growl is much worse then their bite.
- Sunscreen, on 08/22/2008, -2/+4I have a pretty good feeling that my ISP (Windstream) throttles my Bittorrent connections. Just wondering...how could I get my connection to work worth a damn again?
- bwwales, on 08/22/2008, -1/+3That 70 year old man has the right to download a gig per day also. If he chooses to only use his connection to check his email once a day then he should not pay for a cable connection. He would do just as well going back to a dial-up service. If that isn't an option, he could get a limited connection, do without, or simply eat the charges.
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