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- inajeep, on 10/23/2007, -3/+253Nice to see some major news outlets bringing Comcast's practices into the spotlight of the general public.
- cambrown99, on 10/20/2007, -4/+209Google, hurry up and wi-fi the entire world so this becomes a non-issue
- Pimpalicious316, on 10/20/2007, -3/+133this has been going on for months. i can't seed anything at all, ever. my ratios have plummetted and there is nothing i can realisticly do about it other than donating to the private sites for upload credit. ***** COMCAST.
my list of gripes regarding comcast (in my area)
No PPV in HD
If I'm downloading anything at a reasonable speed, the "on-demand" service won't work
"On-demand" won't work most of the time anyways
No seeding of anything (legit or not)
they took my god damned NFL network from the digital plus package and made it into a "sports package" for an addition $15/month. ***** THAT.
21 HD Channels, 7 of which are useless "music HD" channels that play lame ass concerts in HD.
I really hate comcast, but my alternative is DishNetwork and I had even worse experiences with them in the past. why can't i get a good ***** cable provider in central indiana. ***** COMCAST!!!!! - xerus, on 10/23/2007, -1/+103Is Comcast officially the worst ISP known to man yet?
- 93TILL503, on 10/20/2007, -1/+74Its just not Comcastic
- tmessing, on 10/20/2007, -4/+71Finally some exposure to this. Let the battle for the net (our ability to download porn quickly) begin!
- lepton, on 10/20/2007, -1/+61Yes, and this is actually an Associated Press story which means it will get very wide distribution..
- inactive, on 10/20/2007, -5/+62Reminds me of that time I asked God "What is 1 million years to you?"
"It is 1 second" - he replied.
"And what is 1 million dollars to you?"
"1 dollar" - he replied again.
"Would you please give me 1 dollar, God?"
"Sure, in a second." - konamicode, on 10/20/2007, -2/+51No, AOL still holds that title.
- mirzmaster, on 10/21/2007, -0/+35I wish someone would bring the same attention to Rogers Canada's anti-P2P discrimination. They are far worse than than Comcast by actively, totally blocking encrypted P2P traffic on top of already limiting unencrypted BitTorrent bandwidth and preventing seeding. (ref: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs#Cana ...
- amsterdamordeth, on 10/23/2007, -1/+35I have comcast and the best thing we can do is to turn off our television services with them.
I personally disconnected all of my TV services yesterday. No more tv for me. If more people did this, Comcast would suffer greatly.
Can you really not live without Television?? I get tired of my 3 year old coming up to me and repeating commercials word for word ad naseum. It is disgusting. She doesn't even watch tv that often, but the commercials are replayed so much I am tired of her being a sheep consumer who just wants all the latest crap they are selling. I will teach her to live without it. - bwiney, on 10/23/2007, -0/+32This makes me even happier that I'm canceling my service.
- DThatsMe, on 10/23/2007, -0/+31Myself and a few friends have experienced this lately. The phone reps are always rude and say there's nothing wrong. Oh and one actually said "There's nothing wrong with your connection. Maybe you just downloaded too much bad stuff and it messed up your computer."
- mjworthey, on 10/23/2007, -2/+32Comcast has a history of douchebaggery. They don't offer their services down here (Texas), but if they did I would avoid them and speak against them. Good to see this on a well-known, reputable new site.
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast#Controversies - fkr3, on 10/20/2007, -4/+33Bandwidth is still an issue with wifi..... it's not some magic, unlimited source of bandwidth you know.
- yujie, on 10/20/2007, -1/+28Time to send in the Grandma's with the Hammers
- SpykerSpeed, on 10/21/2007, -2/+26Eh, you're making excuses. This is a supply issue. Comcast doesn't supply its users enough bandwidth to do what they want to do. So instead of limiting their internet activities and discriminating against some activities over others, Comcast should increase their bandwidth somehow. Or a competitor will swoop in and do it for them.
- MrSpontaneous, on 10/20/2007, -0/+22Thats the problem. There are no other ISPs. In my area (Baltimore), as far as high-speed broadband goes, I have a choice between Comcast or FiOS. FiOS wont be in my part of the city until late next year.
Also, avoid Cavtel at all costs. Their service is horrible.
The FCC needs to legislate line-sharing... now. - dc2o, on 10/20/2007, -0/+21The story made a giant red headline at drudge. Its going to make the rounds.
- Travisty2012, on 10/20/2007, -2/+22Well, I guess they shouldn't advertise unlimited bandwidth at sustained speeds. They are struggling to provide what they advertise...so instead of actually providing it they are limiting heavy users. This is BS...
- inactive, on 10/20/2007, -3/+22WE SWEAR WE ARE NOT GAY EVEN THOUGH WE GOT BUSTED TRYING TO HAVE ANAL SEX IN A BATHROOM.
- misterpony, on 10/20/2007, -1/+19Sad that's the best option we have. Our so-called free market democracy leaves us so few choices that we can't find fair pricing and treatment in the US.
- mjworthey, on 10/20/2007, -5/+23Uh, so you support corporate regulation over government regulation? From this article it looks like the corporations aren't going to regulate in our favor.
- trer, on 10/20/2007, -5/+20Funny how the Capitalist Corporate-run American government is behaving similarly to the Communist Chinese in their attempts to regulate the internet to further its own interests (all the stories on Digg about the Chinese Communists blocking google, yahoo and msn and re-directing to Baidu)
- Acglaphotis, on 10/20/2007, -2/+17God is a cheapskate?
- cranium, on 10/20/2007, -0/+14Hey *****, they're paying for the bandwidth they're using. Don't try to turn it into a fairness issue, moron.
- cranium, on 10/20/2007, -0/+14What is this WiFi with unlimited capacity, and have you patented it?
- logomancer, on 10/20/2007, -3/+17At least with government regulation, the people can elect who regulates things. Not so for a corporation. Yes, if you own enough stock, you can vote to do things differently, but very few people can buy that much stock.
- logomancer, on 10/19/2007, -0/+14Many people can't. Their choices are either Telco DSL and Cableco Cable, and sometimes they can't get DSL because they're wiring's too crappy or they live too far away.
- asaone, on 10/20/2007, -0/+13what do you expect from the the tech tv killing people
- MikeSD34, on 10/20/2007, -0/+13How about neither? I paid for 6mbps down and 384kbps up, I should be able to use all of that, at any time, however I please. Not sometimes, not "Not during peak hours", not "Anything but torrents". I didn't pay for access to the world wide web, I paid for access to the Internet and all that it entails.
If it's not available for use, they shouldn't sell it as such. - signal15, on 10/20/2007, -4/+17Are you kidding me? Just because 90% of the legislation passed is pro-corporate and anti-consumer doesn't mean it all is. Net Neutrality protects you from getting screwed by big business. Believe it or not, some legislation can actually be a good thing.
This is right up there with Anti-trust/anti-monopoly laws. - p0tent1al, on 10/20/2007, -1/+13refreshing and not overused joke on digg? +1
- unmarked, on 10/20/2007, -1/+13Doesn't this type of action make Comcast liable for the illegal content on its network? I mean if they monitor traffic in this way, they are no longer just passing through the information. Thus, they should be liable for every illegal piece of data on their network: pirated movies, pirated songs, child porn, drug communications, you name it.
I think Comcast is setting itself up for some serious litigation. - necbone, on 10/23/2007, -0/+12I hate Comcast....someone please open up some other interweb service
- bbqsalad, on 10/23/2007, -0/+11Comcast sucks so bad. I feel bad for you people forced to choose them or dsl.
- mirzmaster, on 10/20/2007, -0/+11Yeah, BitTorrent traffic does produce congestion, something which counters the assumptions behind the pricing model and infrastructural plan of the ISPs. Right now, most ISPs deliberately limit upstream traffic from customers based on the old assumption that people will be downloading far more than uploading. However, systems like BitTorrent encourage cooperation and sharing as much as (or more than) you take. This goes against the infrastructural setup of the ISPs. I'm not certain how easy it is for them to change this setup, but it the bandwidth limits they set on upstream/downstream seem largely arbitrary.
Given the assumptions the ISPs operate under, it seems their aversion to BitTorrent is that it goes against their current pricing and revenue structure. After all, the old-school model is where producers of content like YouTube pay top dollar for upstream bandwidth and the rest of us pay a flat rate for consumption. BitTorrent shifts the burden of bandwidth responsibility evenly across the whole system.
The ISPs are trying to protect their existing business model which was based on assumptions of use that are no longer true. They are fighting P2P technologies because it will cost them to change, and in fact they may not be able to move fast enough. - misterpony, on 10/20/2007, -1/+12I hope this AP article will get people to wake up now and see that Net Neutrality protection is needed now! The Dorgan-Snowe bill might not be the best answer, but this should get the discussion going again and get some people who know what they're talking about brought into Congress and not just lobbyists and shills for Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, etc. This is totally unacceptable. These lying and scamming telcom companies need to be held accountable.
- algorythm, on 10/20/2007, -3/+14Comcast service is terrible. And their so called professional installers are nothing more than a Mexican with a drill and ladder. They just drill a hole in the wall and push a cable through from outside. No box, faceplate or anything. With brick, they put it through a window... Professional my ass.
Luckily FIOS will be available in a couple weeks...Hope they dont send the same goons. - NJank, on 10/20/2007, -0/+9because even though it's in the AP, the general public will say: oh, Comcast is blocking pirates. Ok. Oh, look, Britney Spears is at it again on page 2...
- jordan314, on 10/20/2007, -0/+10For linux, there's an iptables fix for this:
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp –dport $YOURTORRENTPORT –tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP
ipfw add deny tcp from any to any YOURTORRENTPORT in tcpflags rst
For windows and os x, there's an azereus hack:
http://www.fsckin.com/2007/09/18/the-real-fix-for- ... - totorototoro, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10The real issue is that Comcast has never been transparent about their actions. They advertise and boast about blazing speeds, but don't mention they are throttling. They claim unlimited downloading, then shut down people for downloading too much. Why do ***** consumer groups and reporters need to press them into revealing what they should openly tell their customers upfront?
- dougmc, on 10/20/2007, -0/+10Somehow I imagine that AOL's lead is going to be insurmountable.
(They're bad for different things, of course.)
But maybe if you pick a certain type of ISP, like cable modem provider, maybe ... - jcaino, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10You know what attributes to a large amount of wasted traffic and causes unnecessary slow-downs on servers? SPAM. Not bit torrent - spam.
And guess who has a ton of zombie boxes on their network? Comcast. (Not that others don't)
Comcast should be blocking those if anything... - BOFH2, on 10/20/2007, -0/+10Comcast doing something that the internet communities does not like? BAH Can't be true! /sarcasm
If you are using comcast drop them like I did. It is cheaper for me to have 2 DSL lines than 1 comcast line. - amsterdamordeth, on 10/20/2007, -2/+11Yea get Verizon DSL and your DSL gets patched through the biggest NSA datacenter in the world.
- memodude, on 10/20/2007, -0/+9It's surprisingly accurate for a mainstream news article as well.
- kurttrail, on 10/20/2007, -3/+12Yeah like the S&L scandal during the 80's.
Oh, *****! Wasn't that caused by DEregulation? - dukrous, on 10/20/2007, -0/+9Because all current solutions, net neutrality included, don't do anything to open up the market. If you continue with the idea that ISPs are simple businesses and utilities like power and water then you do nothing to assist the free market solutions. More competition at the same level as these ISPs would do wonders for the system.
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