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- wisedude, on 10/10/2007, -5/+197although it's a dupe, I'm digging it because it's ***** important
- u235sentinel, on 10/10/2007, -9/+128Unfortunately Comcast really doesn't care. They have been an abusive company for many years and I don't believe it will get better. Only projects such as Verizon FioS and Utopia will remove their Government Sponsored Monopoly and give American's quality Internet services (which we've already paid over 200 Billion for in the 90's under Clinton's NII). I've found and linked all this in my blog.
http://comcastissue.blogspot.com - Armor1901, on 10/10/2007, -4/+111***** Comcast and this ***** tiered service.
- macinturd, on 10/10/2007, -2/+105I was thinking of going back to comcast after my contract ended with qwest, but now I'm going to stay with qwest/xmission. At least Xmission doesn't pull that kind of B.S., though I wish I had the 7 meg DSL I was hoping to see soon in my area. Thanks for the heads up. I won't be doing business with comcast anytime soon.
- Rodman930, on 10/10/2007, -1/+73you had me for a second...
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -2/+71***** monopoly having bastards...........I WANT A CHOICE, DAMMIT!
- jorgepblank, on 10/10/2007, -0/+60For those who don't know what Tiered Internet is (I didn't): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiered_Internet
- koughen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+61This is the funniest thing I have seen all day. As I was reading this (pissed off, like the rest of you) I couldn't get over the irony of what I saw. I took a screen shot and posted it here, if you care to share in it.
http://www.koughen.com/comcast.png - alphacoder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+53But Comcast and other such monopolies will care once you write your politicians at the city and county level informing them of their complicity in such tactics aimed at their constituents.
I'm serious, until we all make these real issues at the municipal and state level - just like Comcast and the rest have done with their lobbying - then not much may happen in our favor. It's one thing for the lobbyists to throw money at candidates but the bottom line is, candidates live for votes. Yes, money helps buy airtime which influences voters but a local campaign that speaks up for a majority of citizens' interests over those of a monopoly shouldn't have too much difficulty. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+52Does this really matter to non-torrent users though? I haven't downloaded anything in months. I've gone legit. Ok I lied
- Bartboy919, on 10/10/2007, -2/+39First they take my TechTV and now this! Hey comcast, I've got you tiered internet right here!
- WolfDV, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34Tiered access is EVIL
some people will say . . "I don't use torrents so it doesn't bother me" . . true . . for now.
if they get away with this soon it will spread to other things ..
want youtube access . . 5 bucks extra
want to be able to search using google . . 1buck
want to stream live tv . . 2 bucks
skype access . . 5 bucks
Internet gaming . . 10bucks
get the picture !?!?!
they can't get away with this. . all of our other services are already corrupt (cable tv tiers, cell phones, sat access, etc)
the Internet should not be restricted . . you pay your month fee, you use the Internet . . everything available in all of its entirety . . tiered access is bad for all - D3koy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32It's Comcast-*****!
- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -5/+34Well they're denying that they are throttling bittorrent connections.. but there's no way to confirm this I guess.
http://digg.com/tech_news/Comcast_Denies_Limiting_BitTorrent_Traffic - GawtMilk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+28hack your parkinsons and cool it with the submit button
- k1down, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31When World of Warcraft patch day rolls around, there are going to be some pissed of Comcast customers.
Comcastic! - moocow1452, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Comcast is blocking me from looking out the blog, that or it's down. Mirror?
- aluminumpork, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24Qwest has 7meg service throughout my entire area, EXCEPT MY 2 BLOCK RADIUS... BASTARDS
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -6/+30amazing that where i live in Jacksonville, FL, the largest city in the country (land wise) only has comcast for cable tv and internet. but somewhere like BFE Idaho has 4 or 5 choices. what the *****, bury me, im just ranting
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26It's amazing that most Diggers who don't trust the government and/or Bush administration, are so hell bent on letting the government regulate {control) the internet. Sure it may be oh so important to fill that new 1TB hard drive up with HD porn asap, but you are setting up a dangerous precedent with congressional control over the internet. Have you never heard of the FCC? Look at our radio and TV programs compared to the rest of the world. Is that how you want our internet to be as well?
But "some regulation is needed".....yeah by the people. Why are you guys still sheep of the liberal thought that government has power and not the individual? If every person that had a problem with this, and had Comcast, canceled ALL of their services and complained, complained, complained up the chain, something might change. What does the sheep do though? Whine and complain on digg and make stupid comments about how the government should have yet more control over a media of the people. That's what Net Neutrality is folks, government control.
*sigh* What is the populace coming to? - aidanr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24still up for me, you with comcast? :P
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Update: Visit Save The Internet and let your voice be heard!
Sunday afternoon I finished setting up a dedicated rtorrent server for seeding Ubuntu .iso images. I do my best to hand out all the CDs I can, but I also figured I could make use of the bandwidth I have to do the same. Once I got on that idea I realized I had access to two Comcast connections (family) where I could drop in two more of these “rtorrent appliances”. So, I got to work setting a second one up and dropped it on the network at my Dad’s house.
Wasn’t I surprised to find that my seeds weren’t taking off. After some quick Google searching I found that Comcast is cutting torrent connections nearly across the board. All across the internet people are complaining about Comcast not letting them seed anymore–and many of these for completely legal material!
I know bittorrent is associated with a lot of pirating. Hell, so was ftp and whatever other protocol you want to drop in here. This doesn’t mean that it is *only* used for pirating. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t legit reasons to use the efficient protocol. Apparently Comcast doesn’t see it this way.
The way I see it this is the first step toward a Tiered Internet, whether or not any such thing is approved in Legislation or by the consumers. Comcast doesn’t care. They are simply cutting off access to part of the Internet, plain and simple.
I would not be surprised at all to soon hear that Comcast will allow bittorrent traffic, for an additional fee. If you *really* want to use that protocol you can pay us more, but otherwise we don’t deem it as part of “normal internet usage”. Once that starts what is to stop the avalanche that will happen next?
“You want access to YouTube? It really uses a lot of bandwidth and we weren’t expecting most people to use more than casual browsing and email. That’ll be $5/mo additional.”
If Comcast is able to start cutting off access to internet protocols they are already to the Tiered Internet that will only become grounds for corruption and extortion. Who will be next?
The telecoms like the idea of a Tiered Internet because they can then extort both sides of the product. Since they are the middle-man they can charge more to the consumers for access to “the whole internet” and charge more to large domains and take pay-outs from big online powerhouses to provide “better or preferred” access to them.
What do I mean by that? We all know Google pwns the internet. We start getting into the Tiered Internet setup and Microsoft gives a big payout to Comcast, requiring them to limit access to Google, while preferring access to Windows Live Search (or whatever the hell its called). They’ll make up some reason why its more efficient for bandwidth or some BS and you’ll have to pay more to get to Google. They would be in the perfect position to rake in huge piles of money from both ends, with nothing to stop them.
The internet needs to stay open. The *whole* internet. Not the convenient internet. Not the bandwidth friendly internet. Not the bribed-into-becoming-the-new internet. The whole internet. All protocols. All sites. All networks.
If Comcast is allowed to continue cutting off even one protocol we’ve already lost. Voice your opinion. Contact your local office. Complain. Make some noise. Switch providers.
Until then I’ll be getting these two Comcast connections switched to a competitor. It may be a slower internet (in my area) on DSL, but at least its the whole internet.
Update: Visit Save The Internet and let your voice be heard! - Okari, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Boy it sure would be nice to be able to refresh and still be able to edit my comments.
- Nick22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22...You're a ***** retard.
- DanH, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23you really think Verizon cares about breaking a monopoly? ha.
- ChildeRoland420, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21The fact is, Cable companies are monopolies because of franchise contracts signed with municipalities. How can you argue that the government shouldn't regulate these monopolies when they are the ones creating them in the first place?
- gamer31, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16How am i supposed to download my Linux ISOs and my Creative Commons CDs now?
- ProKid, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Just when they started to make it usefully fast with uploads. I ***** hate Comcast.
- Gadren, on 10/10/2007, -11/+25So... still think that Ron Paul and his anti-net-neutrality stance is so great?
- mastercheif, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Yes, because if people are in a monopoly, they can't make money off of them.
- amoirae, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12cdnyny: DIAF.
- panzergeist, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Why yes, because that would mean that Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and others would not be able to negotiate contracts with local municipalities, any competitor could come into any area at any time and if I wanted to, I could start my own wifi ISP without fear of the big guys lobbying me into oblivion. We're in this mess because corps can get the government to back them up. Now, because of that idiotic move the only way it can be fixed with the least amount of pain to consumers is to have the government control everything an ISP can do.
The more painful route is to get the governments fingers completely out of it, and deal with the repercussions of their initial involvement for the next ten to twenty years. The payoff is that it will not be able to happen again. I don't know, I guess I just believe in the principle that if everyone has equal footing without aid from an outside influence, there is a better opportunity for real competition. That equal footing has to come from either complete government control, or complete lack of government control.
You obviously want the former. I want the latter. We both want the same thing but believe in a different path to reach it. Mine has the caveat that it's susceptible to collusion and a corporate controlled monopoly. Your's comes with the caveat that it's susceptible to corruption and a government controlled monopoly. - darkhero, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Qwest did the same to me. They said they didn't provide 7mebs in my neighborhood. They only give me 3mebs. But atleast they don't have a limit like Comcast. I seed all day and never got a complaint.
- Pilot85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10now you must use windows.
- ElectricMunk, on 10/10/2007, -10/+19http://www.copowi.com/
Net neutrality respecting startup ISP. Bit pricy compared to other DSL but 7/1 MBS down/up for 59.99 a month isn't bad. No throttling etc. Available in 12 western states since they are just getting started but let em know if you are interested. They will expand. We need to demand new business models and SUPPORT them. More action, less talk.
www.therealnews.com
www.democracynow.org
www.truthout.org
Where do you get your news? - Kwipper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I have to admit, I don't think Comcast is going to give a ***** about those who don't like them because they're interfering with torrent uploads. In their eyes, the majority of people who use torrent services today are people who pirate media, so why should Comcast give a ***** if they're ***** up their service for those who violate their TOS anyways? I'm not siding with Comcast, just trying to see the situation from their viewpoint. That is all.
- ErBiC, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1279 diggs and already down... mirror?
and yeah, ***** comcast. i can't wait until verizon gets off their collective ass and runs FiOS out to where I live. - mikesly, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Come on Verizon FIOS come to my area already. They are in the two towns to my north, south, east and west. How is that possible?
- ghoti06, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11This sounds like a complete non-issue. Comcast says they're not doing it, and Comcast users say they're not experiencing it, and yet we're still picking up the pitchforks? This is nonsensical. Diggers should save their ammo for real outrages, not just "maybe" ones.
- rhinopig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Why the cable companies usually have local monopolies: http://www.freedomworks.org/informed/issues_template.php?issue_id=2817
And as for teleco's: http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cjv14n2-6.html (hint, it has to do with AT&T and more government regulation). - gamer31, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8So the non-profit linux organizations should host 700 meg ISO files instead of being able to lighten their load with bittorent?
- pogfreak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8This is like a train of logic that eats itself
- Denelson83, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Obviously, Comcast is just another corporation that will do anything to get as much profit as possible, even if it means oppressing us even more. Time for Comcast to get its charter revoked!
- galiean251, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8It hurts to be saying this - but here in South NJ, Verizon is the underdog as Comcast has contracts and agreements with almost every town and municipality down to the fact they sponsored the new "Welcome to" our town signs so that each one has a little tiny Comcast logo at the bottom. Verizon, the 800 lb gorilla elsewhere had to fight a massive Comcast FUD campaign and legal fights with the towns (because the Comcast agreements used the words "exclusive") just to get "in the game". Six years ago, I swore I would never use Verizon again when I gave up my land line. Now, I finally can have decent internet and TV through their FiOS service and my bill went from 130/mo for Comcast Digital w/ Internet (only option being a DVR) to 100/mo for the same with Verizon, but now I have HD, a DVR that can share between rooms, and HBO. So there's the sick thought: Verizon just might be the monopoly breaker (at least in my area).
When I canceled Comcast, it was also the first time they ever offered to lower my bill when I said I switched to FiOS. I didn't get a chance to bitch about the bittorrent blockage since they did that right after I switched. - aresef, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9AH *****. I'm a podcaster, and I recently moved my show from Podomatic to libsyn and promised to eventually put my old episodes up on a torrent or something. This is ***** wonderful for me.
Coincidentally, we just got a mailing from Verizon about FiOS and this will definitely be a factor in switching. - ghoti06, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11This sounds like a complete non-issue. Comcast says they're not doing it, and Comcast users say they're not experiencing it, and yet we're still picking up the pitchforks? This is nonsensical. Diggers should save their ammo for real outrages, not just "maybe" ones.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I have already replied to a thread on this subject, I have been throttled, meaning my UL and DL speeds are much lower than normal. I have since encrypted Azureus traffic, and all is well again, my DL and UL speeds are back to normal (64k U 754k D) This began within two weeks.
- kualla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+718003161619
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Pick a number and call and complain... remember, customer support starts at $9/hour with tech support surpassing $20/hr... ;)
Time that concrap, I mean comcast learns a lesson... - d00by, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7i cant wait til wireless routers get some real range on them, then we can create a "real" open internet. Might not span state to state, but city wide would be pretty cool.
- dracostimpy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah I'm cruising right along getting the Bioshock demo torrent on Comcast. Should have the full 1.8GB in about 45 minutes. That's pretty good. Either it's bs or they're just testing it in certain places.
- jayhawk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7"I would not be surprised at all to soon hear that Comcast will allow bittorrent traffic, for an additional fee"
right now, that's the missing link that makes this digg worthy; however, it's not.
but, comcast killed my dog so they deserve the attacks they're getting here. -
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