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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -19/+262***** comcast
- strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -6/+117Not trying to defend Comcast here, but the "4 movies a day" thing is just pulled out of thin air:
"It's rumored that a customer would have to download about 1,000 MP3s or 4 "full-length" movies (XVID format I presume) to trigger a disconnect warning." - vat0r, on 10/10/2007, -5/+110Not much to worry about considering 3 out of 4 Hollywood movies are crap these days anyway.
- NeoRicen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+90As one of many unhappy Australian broadband users I wish I COULD download 4 movies a day.
(I'm exaggerating I know) - inactive, on 10/13/2007, -5/+89So what they are saying is that a customer would need to download anywhere from 2.5 GB - 5 GB / day to trigger a disconnect warning. That sucks. I'm going to have to start choosing my porn carefully.
- yetdog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+82If it isn't "unlimited," then they shouldn't be allowed to sell it as such. If you're going to make the limit 150GB/month, then SAY it. Don't sell it as unlimited and then pull the rug out from people. That's called false advertising, and it's a crime.
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- ZenFountain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+49This isn't news, Comcast admitted nearly a year ago that they have an invisible wall at around 200GB where they cut users off. 200GB may seem like a lot but that doesn't last long for heavy torrenting or usenet leeching. What angers customers is that they have de facto bandwidth caps by not clearly starting that service is limited. They should simply state that there is a bandwidth cap like any other ISP with caps does when you sign up.
- hexr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+40Very sadly I work for comcast because thats the only kinda good paying job I can get right now until I finish college, and I can confirm that there is a limit on the line. We got an email not long ago saying to say to costumers that the internet is "unlimited" and that the throttling was not true but when I was checking the guidelines it clearly states that they clearly have a limit. Comcast contradicts themselves and thinks we employees are stupid we are never going to see that. Unfortunately I need this job to finish college and I'm gonna have to live with saying that comcast is the best "unlimited" internet company in the world... I feel like shooting my self by saying that
- Chompy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+42I see what you did there.
- chrisc262, on 10/10/2007, -16/+47another monster corporation sticking it to the end-user. Thanks again american government for looking out for your citizens!
- chrisc262, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24it certainly is the governments job to regulate a monopoly
- manicallday, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24You forgot Ubutnu.
- notman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22I'm curious if this would also apply to people downloading from netflix. I know they refer to bit torrenting in the article, but Comcast just keeps referencing bandwidth usage.
- lava, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Well, I know I'm downloading tons of full seasons of shows a day and I'm not getting disconnected. All my bt traffic's encrypted though
- csplinter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22Why is anyone calling this abuse. It's obviously use. You can't abuse an unlimited connection by using it too much. The only abuse that's happening is of the customers.
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21it should be once the (local) governments police the cable industry and say that comcast is the only cable provider allowed in their area.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18It bay be if they do it "every day" but for how many days? 5? 10? 30? It dosen't say how long they have to be doing this every day in order to trigger it.
Also, what is wrong with just giving an actual data range? Notice its always # amout of movies or # amount of songs, quality can very filesizes greately. What, do they mean 96k crap realmedia format audio? 320k MP3? Do they mean low-quality 400 meg movies? Ultra mega quality 9 gig ones? - vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18@"Do you have Comcast? Switch to another ISP"
I don't know if you are retarded, but the majority of people that have comcast can't get another ISP other than dial up. Verizon FiOS is only going to the rich neighborhoods right now and will take years to reach most comcast customers. - MarkOfTheDead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19It's just a job, a lot of us have to lie to customers, I was with comcast for a while. Don't let it get you down and keep the faith.
- vileS, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16This must be in a different part of the country or something, but I consider my Internet usage rather high, and I've never had my connection terminated due to using too much bandwidth. I don't even like Comcast, considering they're unreliable and expensive, but where exactly is this happening?
- FireStarterBob, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16xvid movies are like 700mb a piece usually, assuming it's not 2 parts... So, that's like almost 3gb of data... that's not even half of an HD movie
Hope nobody on comcast likes getting a good amount of HD content lol - hardwareguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Limit yourself to 15 minute clips and you should be fine.
Why waste time downloading hour+ long clips when you never see the end - andydumi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I lived in Australia for a while and the network limits are crazy there, both in terms of speed and overall caps.
- strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Hmm... looks like they updated the story since I first read it.
- tinkafoo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17They're gearing up for tiered internet access. "You want to download 'movies'? That'll be an extra $14.95 please!"
- aliengoods, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16His comment was dugg up so much because of the huge number of people who have been ***** by Comcast.
- toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -13/+27its not the government's job to police comcast.
- archlich, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Ubuntu FTW
fixed that for you - techmonkey4u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14How did you come up with such a deviously clever scheme? Indeed clever AND hilarious, mind you.. too hilarious for my ass to stay firmly attached.
- BobTurtle, on 10/10/2007, -13/+27The fact that your comment has been dugg up so much is a sad statement of the typically Digg user's mindset.
- x0nIMIn0x, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Someday, divx is really going to rock your world.
- digitizit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I have Comcast and download quite a lot. I work in video and I download DV video all the time, significantly larger than XVID or DIVX movies. I've not been cut ......
- deltronik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14They went too far when it happened to me.
- aggies11, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Even if it's time, it's still not unlimited. Let me know how I can use my internet for more than 24/hrs per day. That is still a hard and fast limit.
The hard fact of the matter is the company line of "They are ruining it for everyone, slowing down people in their neighborhood" translates to "They are ruining it for everyone, as we are too greedy/cheap to upgrade our networks to actually to support the speeds/services we advertise to our customers. Our system is set up that we charge people $50 a month for a 10Mbs connection that they only use to check their email and browse the web".
Not all bandwidth usage is "i77egal warez d0wnl0ading". I have 5 people in my house and youtube alone can easily and often max out my broadband connection. The multimedia internet age is upon us, it's time ISP's get with it.
(*Note: Even if someone wanted to do it 100% legally, buying all the tv shows you watched in a week off of iTunes, the ISP companies would still consider that "abuse". Any usage that causes them to make less money they will loudly protest".
Aggies - fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15When ZeroPaid regurgitated this news from the other day they missed out a crucial little snippet:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/06/AR2007090602545_pf.html
Washington Post:
To trigger a disconnection warning, customers would be downloading the equivalent of 1,000 songs or four full-length movies ****every day****.
ZeroPaid's rewording and seeding with ads:
According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download about 1,000 MP3s or 4 "full-length" movies - rivalius13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Comcast need to invest in more tubes.
- MrM1yagi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Ever since they screwed TechTV, ***** them
- knightboat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11"Switch to another ISP."
The only way to do this in many places is by moving to another state. - poracious, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12... And well over a hundred dollars a month.
You CAN get that, if you're willing to pay through the nose still. ANd ASDL2+ coverage is still spotty per carrier so you're not guaranteed to be able to get a good one on your exchange to even get that. - BenevolentD, on 02/19/2009, -0/+11I don't think people necessarily have an issue with not having "Unlimited" internet. The issue is that you have no idea what that limit is...one day you are downloading minding your own business and comcast shuts your internet off without prior warning or provocation. That is inherently wrong.
- brufleth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Um...Yeah that's a lot of downloading.
I understand the frustration of being told "unlimited" when that unlimited does in fact come with a big "but you still can't download TOO much." However I've done some intense downloading in the past for web design, ftp, ISO files, etc. I never had a problem as far as getting a warning. I can only assume that some people are maxing out their up and down 24/7. Which really should be their right but still...buy a higher grade connection if it is that big a deal to you.
What I see as the main problem with Comcast is that they've been offering the same level of service for over 15 years now and despite latencies going up they've continued to raise their prices. Inflation is one thing but would it kill them to improve their level of service? Cell phone companies are continually offering better plans at better rates (in seven years I've gone from 500 minutes for 30 bucks to pretty much unlimited for still about 30 bucks). The lack of competition in the ISP market has let companies like Comcast deliver the same crap service they always have while they charge more and more. Nevermind that their service contractors suck, they charge you ***** fees without explanation, and their provided services are crappy.
Pumping out commercials claiming you have "High Speed" doesn't magically make my ***** connection better. - daggah, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Let's get something straight. The reason this is a problem is because for the last 10 years or so the ISPs have been overselling their bandwidth with nice little claims like "unlimited use!" hoping that no one would put it to the test. Now people are, and suddenly it's the customers' fault? No. It doesn't work that way. If the ISP is overselling their bandwidth, they need to either stop making the claim that they are providing unlimited usage (omg, being honest to customers? Whodathunkit?) or upgrade their infrastructure. Kicking off the people who do take advantage of the unlimited use is *****.
- elizabethmuelle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12"According to the Washington Post, a customer would have to download about 1,000 MP3s or 4 "full-length" movies (XVID format I presume) to trigger a disconnect warning." ?
- dragon76, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12I download about 3 movies and about 15 TV shows a week from iTunes, and that excludes the music videos and music I download. I love how you assume everyone downloading large files is a pirate.
- Antiproton, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Internet data is not a commodity. It's not as if there is a finite amount of data to be had, and so would need to be commoditized. The problem here is that Comcast is unwilling to upgrade their backbone to accomodate increasing usage. There are two choices here: Comcast either publishes their limits and writes down the policy, or they stop grousing about it.
The impetus, however, is on the people to stop paying for ***** service. - ivandir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10What do you think triggers all the downloading. If movies were AAA quality people would have them as collectibles.
But anyway who cares download away and if Comcast bitches and moans then slap their ass and move to the next internet service provider. - yetdog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10But you would most likely not pay less if you only use 2-5GB/month. You'd see "basic" internet service, starting at 44.95 for "up to" 25GB. Then anyone who goes over that will get usage charges. They get you on both ends.
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