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- stray, on 10/29/2007, -2/+108If you've ever used Lotus Notes, you'll be thankful.
- TheZorch, on 10/29/2007, -5/+88Comcast is going to block themselves right out of the ISP business. What if they start blocking the TCP streams needed for WoW. They'd kill their business in a second if they start doing that.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -9/+89***** Comcast. It's not my ISP, but if it was I would've dropped it faster than a nut on Jessica Biel's ass.
- SomeImagination, on 10/29/2007, -2/+69Makes you wonder if the RIAA/MPAA are paying them money to block p2p
- RealmDown, on 10/29/2007, -6/+55Beverly Hills 90210
Cleveland Browns 3 - steffinb, on 10/23/2007, -2/+43Most Hybrid Fibre-Coax/DOCSIS networks (like Comcast's) are arcitected with a significant bias toward download speed and a weakness in uplink capacity. At the same time Comcast is heavily pushing it's Digital Voice product which is a heavy upload bandwidth user. To many seeding torrents will result in a crappy VOIP experience which results in customers leaving the triple-play to find another phone carrier.
That's the sole reason why Comcast is so scared of torrents. - zaren, on 10/23/2007, -0/+37WoW pushes updates over built-in p2p networking, doesn't it? Aren't people already seeing this as a problem?
- dynacrylic, on 10/29/2007, -4/+36I wonder what Comcast considers as a "quality experience"?
Maybe their definition of quality has more to do with controlled and disruptive which benefits certain agencies than it does with exceptional and valuable for its customers. - adragontattoo, on 10/23/2007, -0/+27This would also explain why my FTPs will drop as well. Thanks Comcast, I cant even FTP pictures that I have taken, I appreciate your ensuring my safety by blocking MY CONTENT.
Verizon PLEASE speed up the rollout of FIOS!!! - MaxPayne3476, on 10/23/2007, -2/+29I think it should be a requirement on digg that if you are to criticize one country with retarded troll statements, that comment must end with /your country so I can blast your corrupt system as well.
- Firehed, on 10/23/2007, -0/+27Right, because people have a choice of ISPs. It's high-speed cable from Comcast, maybe a half-decent DSL provider if you're in some areas, and dial-up, which is hardly a valid choice in 2007.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/29/2007, -3/+27This is true. Limewire is like a badly diseased prostitute.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/29/2007, -2/+26"Use a different service for Internet"
Stupidest argument ever. See I have this little "monopoly" issue in my town where it turns out that Comcast... well is the only ISP available. And if you don't even use the 8MB/1MB up, why bother paying for it?
95% of users DON'T torrent or share files? Pft, please just pull statistics out of your ass. That's reliable. - leetleo, on 10/29/2007, -6/+27yeah lol, because 95% of Comcast customers don't use torrents or share files.
What a shockingly dumb assertion. - simpleid, on 10/29/2007, -5/+25guys it's ok, allow me to let you all in on a nice little bit from early 2000's
DC++ and IRC. pirating can't die. - the3kgt2, on 10/23/2007, -0/+19Unfortunately, neither of those tips work with Comcast. Comcast seems to detect p2p traffic by the large amounts of connections. Neither changing ports or using forced encryption will help.
- dlammert, on 10/23/2007, -0/+19I am a Notes/Domino Admin and can confirm the findings that comcast is manipulating the notes traffic on port 1352. The thing is though, that comcast seems to be doing this only in selective markets and only some of the time. We have a wide variety of field service engineers based out of the home office using comcast. Only some are effected and of those individuals only some of the time.
I spent a couple of hours troubleshooting with one individual in the Philadelphia comcast market that was experiencing the symptom where any email over approximately 2.5Mb he would try to pass through to our Domino server would basically time out.
Doing further investigation I was able to confirm (using the wireshark packet sniffer) that he was being sent RST packets by comcast basically telling the server and client to drop the session. These RST packets were made to look like it came from the server but doing traffic analysis on the server side, the server definitely was not sending them out.
I opened a PMR with Lotus technical support and they are just as frustrated as I am. They are aware of the issues specific to comcast and are cant do much because the problem is not on their end and comcast wont even admit they are doing any thing to the traffic stream. I can confirm that comast is lying by my traffic captures. Bastards. - Salzar, on 10/29/2007, -4/+23Ya since WoW is why Comcast exists.
- SomeImagination, on 10/29/2007, -1/+19Do you have any idea what that program actually does?
- Orion682, on 10/23/2007, -0/+17The question is, who will everyone jump ship to? A tremendous amount of the US only has one service provider for an area, so that even if they were on Comcast, they may not HAVE any alternative, other than absurdly costly, and last I checked, not particularly effective, satellite connections. I'm on time Warner's RoadRunner, and for a while we were having a lot of problems with them (still are to some extent), but there was literally no one who served our geographic area other than them. FIOS was getting started, but it hadn't run pipes to us yet.
So pray tell, who will we jump ship to, when we're in the middle of the ocean? - explnx, on 04/27/2009, -0/+17This won't work. Even using all of the encryption settings in bittorrent, comcast can still block them with traffic analysis. The only way to get around the filter is to tunnel out, which is expensive and/or slow.
- explnx, on 04/27/2009, -6/+23How can you know you are getting consistent 8MD down/1MD up is you aren't using a lot of bandwidth?
- psion01, on 10/29/2007, -1/+17Uh huh. Except that in the article posted about this yesterday, there were claims that Comcast is doing this to packets crossing their network regardless of source or destination. That is, even packets between non-Comcast parties are running afoul of this if they happen to route through Comcast hardware. This effects everyone, and compromises the integrity of the Internet.
- bjornski, on 10/23/2007, -1/+16No, you don't understand it either.
This is about Comcast sending reset packets causing your connection DROP the torrent connection. Not be throttled to 20k. God, I could live with 20k seeds.
This is them causing them to DISCONNECT.
BIG BIG BIG difference. - inactive, on 10/23/2007, -3/+18i hate comcast
- psykiv, on 10/23/2007, -1/+16Oh crap. My dad is not very technically inclined and he uses Lotus Notes for work. Now I see him calling me every 2 seconds asking me why it's not working. :( Thanks comcast for making my life hell.
- deadbaby, on 10/23/2007, -0/+15Any "man-in-the-middle" style attacks by Comcast are going to be more far reaching than they expect. The internet is designed to work with properly implemented TCP/IP packets. Changing the way the system is expected to work can only result in more problems. Comcast will be seeing a lawsuit over this very soon.
- GothAlice, on 10/23/2007, -0/+14Forged HUP packets (hang-up / connection reset) is the -exact- same filtering method China uses to block "subversive" content on the internet, only China does it randomly, not constantly. Good to know that America is even better at information suppression than China!
- norman619, on 10/23/2007, -1/+15If a large chunk of your customers use a service you are crippling then it should be a very big concern for you in those markets where they do have viable options. I use torrents and noticed my speeds were pretty bad. After the first article exposing this came out I jumped ship to FIOS. My speeds are back to normal. I do what I can to steer existing and potential Comcast broadband customers to their competition. I can only hope if they loose enough customers to this practice they will rethink this policy and do something that does not degrade the customer's service to fix their bandwidth issue.
- TypeEE, on 10/23/2007, -1/+14We need more competitions in ISP. If it is not monopolized, these could never happen. The idea of a tiered internet (counter net neutrality) would have never come up.
I am hoping the introduction of WiMax or city wide free wifi could stop these kind of crap. - Disfnord, on 10/23/2007, -0/+12Because he's a troll.
- woohhaa, on 10/23/2007, -0/+12Doesn't supprise me. There are now three things you can expect from Comcast. There use to be only two.
1) Price Increases
2) Crappy Customer Service
3) Filtered "Unlimited" Internet - cawpin, on 10/23/2007, -0/+12No, it isn't within their terms of service. Blocking business applications means blocking you from hosting servers and such. Blocking you from connecting to your workplace is far outside their TOS.
- jrittenh, on 10/23/2007, -0/+11Files via IRC were around long before 2000.
- sacherjj, on 10/23/2007, -1/+12Tell him to call his IT support. It is their job.
- sio2man, on 10/23/2007, -0/+11If an ISP sells "unlimited broadband", then they should sell unlimited broadband. If they are going to limit it, they need to state that. Truth in advertising.
- ApokalypseNow, on 10/29/2007, -3/+14LimeWire and many other clients use the Gnutella network, they just present different interfaces to it.
- SomeImagination, on 10/23/2007, -4/+14FTP > *
- xOKxWhy, on 10/29/2007, -3/+13Oh Comcast, you amuse me.
- Buelldozer, on 10/22/2007, -0/+10Because LN opens enough connects that it gets whacked by the sandvine software.
- kazamx, on 10/23/2007, -3/+13But the millions and millions of wow addicts would leave within days if they couldn't get their fixx
- mapleshade, on 10/23/2007, -0/+10Comcast uses Sandvine for bandwidth shaping. Sandvine uses Deep Packet Inspection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspectio ... to determine what packets are suspicious. Ports and encryption are irrelevant.
- sacherjj, on 10/23/2007, -2/+12Probably not. It is just Notes being Notes. :)
- inajeep, on 10/23/2007, -0/+9I have to take that a bit personally. I'm a LN developer and a Comcast customer. WTF do they have against Lotus Notes? You can't tell me it's sucking bandwidth! I wonder if it's just email and not replication?
- klpowell, on 10/23/2007, -0/+9Ok, Gnutella I can see their reasoning (don't agree with it but, I see it) but Lotus Notes? WHy would they block an enterprise email client used by many of the fortune 500 companies... many of which proably have employees reading email at home.
- Salzar, on 10/23/2007, -2/+11Comcast is a private company, not the GOVERNMENT of the US. See in America we have private enterprise, welcome!
- mustang460, on 10/23/2007, -1/+10they cant shut usenet down, they can shut down usenet.com thats all
its like trying to shut down the internet, by going after internet explorer - bjornski, on 10/22/2007, -0/+9To whom? AT&T 1.5mb DSL? Dial-up?
Those are the ONLY alternatives in my area - Darc, on 10/22/2007, -0/+9Get away from them with the quickness... all ye subscribers.
- vertinox, on 10/23/2007, -1/+10Lotus Notes is the spawn of the devil!
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