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- chrisgeleven, on 10/12/2007, -6/+58Couple of guesses why this didn't work:
1) Doesn't work with iPods
2) The UI on the software sucks
Not surprised one bit this didn't work. - drumnbass, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Add to that another reason quoted in the article:
'The services won't run on Apple Computer Inc. computers, which are owned by 19% of college students' - scrubadub, on 10/12/2007, -13/+333) doesn't support Linux
4) contains DRM which i will never use when a cheap alternative exists - tsunamisteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Cdigix is a horrendous piece of crap and I'm glad my campus finally dropped it.
- Lorian, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23The quality of these service sucks, that's one of the reasons why allofmp3 is popular
- smurfmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Well, duh. People like to build music collections. For example there is some music I listened to years ago at high school and since then my music taste has changed quite a bit, but I still keep the old stuff for nosalgic reasons. Just listening to it brings up memories. Then theres song ratings, play counts, custom playlists and simply the freedom to do with my music whatever I want. No restrictions, no DRM. You can't do any of this with subscription services. Once the susbscription has ended, you have nothing. You musical history is gone unless you pay them for the rest of your life.
For popular music of the moment there's Top 40 radio. For must-have music there are CDs. No need for subscription services. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Whats the point of having Napster anyway? Who wants to get 'rented' music anyway?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18capwin
if musicians charged 5 cents for a song, how the hell do you expect them to pay their bills? cmon. thats just the mnetality of the illegal generation. ***** that. 99 percent of the people that listen to music cant tell the difference between 128kb and anything more. people that claim they can tell the difference are the same ones that claim they can taste the difference between brands of bottled water. blah blah blah. mod me down because i offend all you with the truth - frogpelt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Amen, Brother!!
- eczarny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10If the iTMS offered discounts to students at specific colleges and universities, that would be sweet. None of this Ruckus crap, which my school is currently doing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9My school (American University) tried to shove Ruckus down our throats 2 years ago, the student body overwhelmingly said "screw that", the school got the idea, ran a big survey about music services... the results showed students didn't want mandatory music services (should note that it ISN'T free, we're forced to pay). So did they drop Ruckus? Yeah. Then they brought in Napster last year. *sigh*
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Until the university or its students get sued for copyright violation
- Bostonsox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I had Ruckus, it was lame. I can just going on Oink and get a wider variety of music, at higher qualities, without any DRM.
- kaytrio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Penn State gives students "free" Napster downloads that are tied to their computers (not compatible with portable players). They started this service due to bandwidth issues from students spending too much time on file sharing networks. Their solution? Limit download (AND upload) bandwidth to 1.5 GB a WEEK, and force music-wanting students to use the "free legal alternative". Yeah, it's legal, but it's useless. And free? It costs a mandatory $110 per semester in tuition.
- powerpuffmidget, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Maybe because they don't work with over three quarters of all MP3 players?
- Aanidaani, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why bother to download DRM-protected music when I can just connect to the server running on my dorm's floor and download everything I could want? And in the event that there's something not on our server, I can just connect to the school-wide high speed file-swapping network.
- joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9DRM. Period. If they didn't have DRM, who wouldn't use it? At least supplementally to p2p.
DC++ Hubs still dominate college networks. But I don't see how these colleges are complaining about bandwidth being choked up. I got to WPI and all p2p goes on within the network, so it's not like they have to pay a bandwidth bill. The network is far more rugged than to take any major hit from file sharing.
Not counting that time we accidently plugged a crossover cable into a cisco fasthub we had laying around and hit the DNS server with 625mb/sec of TiVo packets.... That did a number on it... - invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6i don't know who wants it.. but i know who wants you to have it :-D welcome to the mafiaa, we'll charge you outrageous prices to inflate our profit margins, bust your kneecaps with DRM, then sue you for believing in that stupid "fair use" crap. it'll be gone soon, we've almost paid enough senators to erase the word "rights" out of the constitution! :-)
- howiloved, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i love the sound of defeat, "students with ipods will use itunes... it's a fact of life".
haha - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I am in College and know of Ruckus through some friends at OSU where they used it last year. It's like Rythmbox which is also a knock off of the iTunes layout without all the features yet it unlike Rythmbox it has no iPod support.
- fkuall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i love DC++
- joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Alot of colleges go to great lenghts to make BitTorrent not work. You can get around it, but it's more work than its worth when you can pull everthing on DC++ at 9mbit/sec anyway.
- crashingechelon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That would be awsome if iTMS offered that in schools. I don't see why they don't since they're on Windows and Mac.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5iTunes with MyTurnsRedux works great on a college LAN especially on the dorm LAN.
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Hmmm the music files are wrapped in DRM. You can't copy them to your portable
player. IE Ipod and the files only play on the computer they were downloaded to.
Wow that's just great and so convenient. not. - frem001, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7you get free music services in the usa... what a waste of money... just let students get their music their own way... they are responsible for the way they get it... i just relied on my student discount at hmv, p2p (when something came out before it was in stores) and itunes
- jiub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The greatest college music download service is myTunes Redux our ourTunes. Get a few thousand people on the same network with different music tastes....you can find anything you want. For free, no DRM. Don't mean to support piracy but it happens on almost every college campus where I've talked to people.
- Virion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, technically if the services used DRMless mp3s they'd instantly be compatible with all devices, but the use of DRM and very limited access methods is really the issue. Besides, as some other posters have mentioned, if your service is limited to IE, you'll lose users that technically have compatible systems, but use alternative browsers.
- neomis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Here's why it doesn't work at RIT, to get the music you must use internet explorer. You have to use Windows Media Player to play the music. You aren't allowed to transfer the files b/w computer, cd's or mp3 players. Finally because of low quality WMA files. Thats why we still choose to get the music by our own means.
- fishmasta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ruckus = slow website, buggy program, bad UI, and a lot of the most popular songs aren't available even though the rest of the album is.
- afterthoughtCA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Well, the point of napster is not to have music but to listen to it. That is like saying "What is the point of XM radio because you only hear the music but you don't own it?"
I mean, napster is a decent service for finding new music and putting it on a portable player so you can hear it...but it is no substitute for buying the music. - frogpelt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4yeah, that's true but almost 3/4ths of the students who have mp3 players have iPods. Those who don't have mp3 players probably aren't as interested in downloading music anyway.
- drunkjack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Only place I buy music anymore is Emusic.com.
Methinks Emusic should trump this bandwagon by offering colleges deals. They'd likely get customers because well, they sell DRM-Less MP3s that don't suck and never become useless. All the things these services don't offer.
Besides, College kids who want to listen to the type of major label crap on Napster and Rhapsody need to try new music. Emusic is the best place to do that.
I drunkenly heart Emusic.com - dh8r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am a college student, and I would actually use one of these services if they
1) didn't have DRM
2) had higher quality
3) had better support for alternate OS's (ie Linux, Mac) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i agree. napster isnt a replacement to owning music. its a great way to discover music. and get things the second you want them without all the hassles of finding a bitorrent file for it. plus, if you really care about keeping the msuic, just download Tunebite, and it will strip all the songs of DRM and you can fill ur ipod up. so stop compaingin about rental services. the very nature of rental implies you cant own it. so dont gripe. its just one more convenience for us to choose form and force apple to stay innovative. al these choices are making the music market change in many radical ways and yall are lcuky as *****. in my day, we had to walk 5 miles to the nearest record store, adn it was snowy outside, and i didnt have shoes, and we liked it that way! and we had to carry big boxes of records to parties that weighed a ton, and we like it that way!
- cooppw02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I get a deal through the University of Minnesota where I pay only $24 per year for Rhapsody Unlimited. I like it well enough: decent selection, gratification more instantaneous than P2P, and there is even support for Linux and Mac. Not sure I'd pay the normal rate of $10 per month though.
- idleminded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know, I'm pretty happy with Ruckus at the moment. For me, free music is free music. Doesn't really matter where I get it from. Sure, Ruckus charges you extra for putting it on a Player... But in the end, I'll burn it to a CD, rip it back to my computer and be set.
- simianstyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I use the Ruckus music service provided by my college, and believe me EVERYBODY I know just downloads them and reencodes them to mp3 to get rid of the DRM. They're actually making things more conveniet for the educated ones!
- Virion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey, good to see another RITer. I remember when they began offering it with some special discount that made it near free, not a single person I knew bought into it. They couldn't give it away, and the attempts to get students on-board (little table ads and maybe an advert and a brief article in the Reporter) did little to build interest. At least it was optional for us, an option which I gladly turned down.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well, i agree, but that was weird al's fault for the ***** contract he negotiated. i know for a fact that most artists get much more than that . especially independent musicians without a label. they make more than 50 cents. so maybe u2 and weird al dont get that much, but the little guys are the ones that need to be protected the msot anyways
- LordFate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"4) contains DRM which i will never use when a cheap alternative exists" Quoted for truth
I work in the networking department of a state uni that just installed one of these systems. I personally have used it quite a bit but when I ask all my friend why they don't the answer is pretty simple. They see right through this little marketing ploy to 4 years from now when they move off campus and suddenly have to pay $20/month to listen to their tunes.
People seem surprised that this free music isn't appealing to people but the reason is simple. What benefits does this free music hold for me that pirated music didn't offer me? None, these services are just a bunch of hassle, a waste of funds, and the selection on these services is poor at best. - l0rdn1k0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2agree with first poster!
point #3:
you lease it for 9.99 cents a month.
once you stop paying, you no longer own the music.
that's why. - kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2mytunes really is a great thing with itunes. you friend has, say, 3 GB of phish cds, and you don't want to import each one? no problem, just use mytunes. its the same as borrowing a CD from a friend, which the RIAA still says is illegal
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love Cdigix, I use it to stream music, find new music, and even rip them (Using TuneBite) to my MP3 player. When I don't have access to the DC++ hub at my school, Cdigix is great, hell, even my dad shares my account. Great for music on the laptop or in general. Sure its buggy, but it provides a great service, i hope RIT doesn't get rid of it.
- daedalus01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thank goodness Purdue is dropping cdigix!
IE and WMP and DRM = :-(
(and too many acronyms) - Erfus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3At Purdue no one used or liked CDigix, it required IE. It was a piece. And we have a campus network that the data doesn't leave which is super fast, so no one needed it.
- simianstyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The bonjour service it installs can be uninstalled - who needs "online friends" in your music player anyway? Also, the cool thing about ruckus is that you can use it off campus as well, plus it offers some old movies from way back in the day (hey, at least they're free).
- Evilstanley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1True to that :)
:cough: DC Gate :cough: - codeman38, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1...It's part of the tuition? Can non-Windows users get it refunded, I wonder? 'Cause that's not much of a fair deal otherwise...
- bbrosemer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ruckus is ok other then the fact that it puts crap on your computer which pisses me off, not good crap, I love every thread that goes through my CPU and Ruckus puts some werid ***** on your computer...
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