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Hopefully hostmysite will have this available for their hosting plan soon.

ColdFusion is much faster and easier to develop with than PHP. Perhaps its worth the price when I can do twice the work in the same time. Not to bring down PHP as it is a very worthy language in itself.

Yeah...I download the beta, and have been quite pleased.

cue the Adobe marketing drones posting its praises.

I work for a firm that programs in CF and even our developers dont get that excited about a programming platform.

ColdFusion has always been known as the 80% language... I stopped using at CF7 when Adobe bought Macromedia because I realized CF was going to be rewritten -- for the fourth time. I have a good friend who manages a shop of about 160 CF developers and it works great for them, so I am happy for anyone that it works for. But ColdFusion is definitely no Django or Ruby on Rails. Open Source will prevail.

Meh.

I have saved so much money for my clients by telling them in come cases it might be better to go with Coldfusion over PHP or ASP.net. 10k in the business world is nothing. What business really hate is long expensive development schedules. They want the thing to work and they want it to work now.

Even this new version offers nothing that .NET doesn't (for free with Windows). It's still playing catch up.

Unless your using a non Windows OS, CF just isn't worth the price. And if you are using Linux, why not an OSS for web development?

Honestly, CF was great in the day. Can someone please give me a non-fanboi justification for it? Don't say how "easy" it is, because if you can't make a decent web page in .NET you shouldn't be in the business. That's how bad web sites get made.

OK, OK, I'll try it!
Damn, no torrents on Pirate Bay, yet!

I wonder if myspace will benefit from this....

Nah, who am I kidding.

...for a minute there I thought they had solved the world's energy crisis. :(

Dude on the front page looks like Bob Saget.

"Even this new version offers nothing that .NET doesn't (for free with Windows). It's still playing catch up."

The same could be said for Java or PHP. Most of these platforms do the same thing - it is in HOW they do that matters. Shoot - just write binary.

Being serious though - consider this article which demonstrates doing CAPTCHA in VB.Net:
http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/showtopic30913.htm

This is one tag - one line of code - in ColdFusion. I use CF because it makes my life easier.

9:13am Cold Fusion 8 Launches
9:17am Server runs out of RAM

as a former CF developer, all i have to say is screw Cold Fusion. and screw the tags. It's supposed to be a programing language not HTML. And just to add on to that screw lisp {} and screw scheme () as well. Have key words.. they don't need ***** around them.

CF still exists? I'm honestly surprised they're still developing this.
This is what, their third complete rewrite? I stalled support for CF7 when my coders proved that they could do more with PHP than CF7. Now that CF8 is out, I'll have to re-evaluate this but something tells me that PHP5 already has the stuff CF8 has...

Why would anyone use CF when there is better open source languages like Ruby on Rails for fast dev? Even PHP has lots of great frameworks to choose from now like Zend and and Cake. Why chose something that costs a hell of a lot of money that dosent do it better than the free counterparts? Honestly I doubt there are many that would choose CF even if it was free unless they already develop in it.

What an ignorant world we live in.....put a price tag on something and some people just assume there is a benefit associated with that price. Sucker born every minute.

Not to be the asshole here but...

Leaving out the whole bit about how slow ColdFusion is compared to Perl/PHP/Java/Ruby (.Net...you suck too)... Did you ever notice that ColdFusion isn't even a language as it is tagging markup? On my job I switch between PHP, Java and Perl randomly throughout the day depending on the project I'm working on. There are certain applications where certain languages work better (Using PHP on the desktop isn't a fantastic idea, cue the Java). Switching between PHP and Java is tough enough, try switching from Java to ColdFusion, it's a nightmare. It doesn't follow any basic "coding syntax" it doesn't even follow half the rules of 90% of the programming languages out there. I bet it integrates with Flash Communication Server wonderfully. FLASH, another on the way out technology. (There's a reason it's impossible to find a host that offers FCS now a days.) AJAX is much better suited and can do 90% of the things Flash can do (if not more).

I'm getting away from the point here...but fact is, ColdFusion is a dead technology and they're merely running to catch-up. If it was developed by a company who's only focus was ColdFusion and who had no other forms of revenue, they would of been bankrupt 5 years ago. Adobe has so much money, they can just keep dumping money into the project.

If you guys want to sit here and argue, show me something worth arguing over. Show me a site that runs half decent under a heavy load that runs ColdFusion.

Oh...and I'm glad ColdFusion's OOP support finally caught up....riiiiight.

I'm a Flex/ColdFusion developer and as we speak I'm creating a presentation for my boss/clients to demonstrate why we should switch to Ruby on Rails as our Flex app backend. Coldfusion is painful to progam in.

Thank you Tim Buntel. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/

Nothing like a "Senior Product Marketing Manager" talking up the technical aspects of the platform. If he says its "blazingly fast", it must be. I would be a little upset if I were him though, seems like the 10dpi handheld scanner they used botched his face up. On second thought, maybe he didn't want to be recognized.

Whoever thinks that PHP code is all that different from CF code is just delusional. Both mix code in with html for quicker development in the short term, but both are notoriously hard to maintain and build upon in the long term. I like both for some reasons, I dislike both for some reasons.

Use what you like or find another job ... just quit bitchin.

NARRATOR: In the frozen land of Adobe they were forced to eat a disappointing, bloated, and unbelievably overpriced web application framework. And there was much rejoicing.
ALL: *under-enthused cheering* yaaaaaaaay...

In related news, Cobol's and PASCAL's newest versions are in beta stage for your downloading pleasure. Remember max 14.4 baud connection allowed for each download.

I like CF for the wsdl webservices and components. Makes distributed computing easier than the others. Server-side image and video processing in 10 lines of code ftw.

Eh sounds like a gaming forum. ZOMG PS3 ownzors joor face ur soooo stoooopie!!!!!111111

I love the quote, sounds exactly what a 'Adobe Senior Product Marketing Manager' would say.

I'm glad you clueless gits don't like CF.

/more work for us

I am a CF developer and I find things much easier to code in Coldfusion than any other language. Plus the it works great with flex and flash and its very easy to maintain if its coded correctly.

I've been using ColdFusion since version 2.0. Since version 7 a lot has improved and I enjoy CF more now than ever. I develop with PHP and in the past have worked with (ahem) ASP and PERL. While other languages do the job and do it well enough I find myself developing applications which are more user friendly and have a codebase which is far easier to maintain. I have also learned the basics of programming from CF, which allowed me to become fluent with other languages. It's also perked my interest in Java development.

I won't bash any language out there because, hey, we all make money from them and they do the job we or our clients require. I prefer the Adobe platform (ColdFusion and Flex) because it allows me to develop applications quickly with limited time spent integrating open source components that don't work or require me spending two days trying to read some poorly written documentation. None of my clients have ever complained about the cost of CF, as for myself the $1300 I spent on the server has paid for itself many times over (as do the upgrades).

All that being said, thanks Adobe for another great release and continuing to support an application server so many of us have loved for so many years.

Hey.. thanks for the WARNING!