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- Ulisses, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Human rights we don't give a damn for, but damn us to hell if we don't get those chinamen cracking down on piracy.
Thankfully this is China s it'll be a long wait for the day poor little Xin-xuan won't be able to get the latest Universal blockbuster for 25c. - Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Considering how thoroughly corrupt China is, and the fact that there's probably local party bosses involved in the piracy racket... Well, I'm not holding my breath.
- consonance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I'm sure that China will crack down on piracy just as much as they intend to rectify the United States' $200 billion dollar trade deficit.
- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Indeed. You can make all the laws you want, but they're worthless if you can't enforce them...
- cr125er, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13China? Who cares? Sweden's holding fast, they got some big balls. That's all we need. Every other country could execute pirates and Sweden would still be there going "lol! Sven! Where is Sven!? Sven! Rip this and get it on the net, stat! And send a message to Washington, tell them to eat our asses with a spoon if they want us to start cracking down on pirates. Who the hell is going to use up this outrageous bandwidth if we crack down on pirates? How in the name of God is my grandma going to utilize her 1MB/sec upload speed without these beautiful torrents?"
- Ramtech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10They wanna crack down on piracy... when in fact... they should be worrying more about their ***** people, and how much there economy is going to *****.... and not worrying about ***** bill gates' Vista...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The agreement paperworks China signed was a cheap knock-off.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Running over its own citizens with tanks was more dumb. The only thing China will crack down on is physical cd/dvd copying, because internet is available to almost everyone there isn't that much demand for physical copies.
- kuribo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Yeah, enforcement is going to be a huge problem (assuming the country is even serious about enforcement in the first place.) Here's hoping though.
With copyright issues like this, I always find it kind of funny that a hundred years ago or so, Britain was pissed that the US wasn't respecting copyright, and authors' works were getting ripped off. Now we're the ones desperately trying to hold on to our copyright laws. - bigwyrm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9@mistercharlie
Yay! Let's hope they don't. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Now that's ironic, isn't it?
Last year my family and I went to Hong Kong and Schenzen, via a package tour. One of the stops was a mall selling nothing but imitation (read = pirated) goods of designer bags, clothes, and DVD's.
The tour guide even bragged about the government supporting them and that they had the best imitation goods market in the whole of Asia.
We'll see what happens. - HideoKojima, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5lol why don't they start with the automakers and their pirate cars.
- venom8599, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yeah, because we sure gained a lot economically from invading other countries. /sarcasm
Guantanamo Bay is nothing compared to living under complete totalitarianism, which is mainly what the problem was with 'commies', not really the economic system, but the totalitarian political systems. - CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It only covers copyright infringement, not piracy. The South China Sea does have a piracy problem, but it is not covered by this agreement.
- emptycan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For the moment, the memorand will be useless. China won't bother to enforce it, they signed it just to shut the mouth of the critics for a while. But it's a step in the right direction.
- brd6644, on 09/01/2009, -0/+2Their economy go to *****? Not when you have a 10-20% annual GDP growth rate. Now if you said their environment was going to *****, you'd be right.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Matt Damon!
- yangj08, on 10/12/2007, -0/+225c? Only if you're really lucky. I live in Shanghai- prices are more like $1. Could be because I only checked outside of my school- which is next to a housing development where only foreign people live. Anything lower than US prices is a deal.
- annoia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oops. small mistake in the translation... They wanted to crack down on privacy, not piracy... ;)
- lineman60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21) in agreement with every one else, treaty's are just words on paper.
2) why is this a concern, what is more important piracy or human rights? - mistercharlie, on 10/12/2007, -16/+17Yay! Now let's hope they enforce it.
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only second to americans..
- hambend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hah! Good luck with that. China is making itself a huge problem in doing this. I've been there, some of those pirate markets have hundreds of sellers. Where are they all going to go?
- walugi, on 10/12/2007, -11/+12Yeah, China those human rights abuses! They're so appalling, invading countries for economic gain and running that forsaken Guantanamo Bay!
God damn! Good thing we Americans aren't complete hypocrites when it comes to human rights! We don't even have to learn from anyone else, because we're the best! If you don't agree with me then your either a black, a communist or a terrorist! - qwerty121, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No! Not fixdown!
- zackk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heaven of piracy.
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not about piracy. It's precisely abut that. Not taking it up the ass by the americans. A music CD is $26+ and a 2 year old movie (pirates of the caribbean) is $30. Anyone have any questions on why people have a bigger interest in paying their monthly $30 to the company providing their 10/10 instead of hollywood?
- Ramtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i think thats what i meant.. sorry... and thx
- fauxXenophanes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1" Chinamen " is more like " darky".
" Slanteye " is like " n!gger ". - brd6644, on 09/01/2009, -0/+1Is it just me or is digg.com now the headquarters for the neo-communist, hate-America political movement? You guys need to get a ***** grip and/or a job and understand how the real world works.
- Thex1138, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a bit of a joke really...All bar a few of the smaller softear developers either gave for free [Autodesk 20,00 copies] or sell for peanuts a relative $20 when we pay $6000 in the last 10 years...and now China decide they want to crack down on piracy? it's an absolute farce!
They've spent a good 10 years or so collecting data and using it despite warnings and the not and then the companies give it to them anyway..! They call it 'charity' or gaining a 'competitive edge'' in emerging markets..they wonder why there is piracy and open source challenging them all the time..
Long live open source! and shaft the commercial bastards! - argoff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Yay! Now let's hope they enforce it."
Lets hope they don't. The "freedom to copy" culture in China is one of the few cultural aspects in China that promote individual liberty by individual action and initiative without requiring permission from everyone else. To kill that would kill a major force that promotes freedom of the people there.
Besides, while we are taught that copyrights and patents are a "property" that "protects" innovators, and are an "incentive". In practice they are not, and in fact are very evil. Like how patents on air bags and anti-lock brakes locked out those safety devices for 20 years while over a million people died that didn't need to. Or like how US pharmaceutical companies sued African nations in the world court to not make generic AIDS drugs causing another estimated million unneeded deaths. Do I even need to mention the RIAA, or how Microsoft leveraged itself into a monopoly?
Slaves on the plantation were a "property" too. So what. Just because someone calls something a property right doesn't mean that it is. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Speaking of copied cars...
Is it a Toyota Scion xB?
http://tinyurl.com/y3rhua
Or a Great Wall knockoff...
http://www.china-motors.ru/galery/details.php?image_id=16
http://www.china-motors.ru/galery/categories.php?cat_id=1
Is it a Toyota Scion xA?
http://tinyurl.com/v2t6k
Or a Great Wall knockoff...
http://www.china-motors.ru/galery/categories.php?cat_id=1&page=2
Don't forget, China also copies the Honda CRV (Laibao SRV), Chevy Smart (Chery QQ) and others. Everything from routers to batteries are knocked off. Even baby formula.
The difference is, if you sue those partially state-owned companies like Honda did you can get counter-sued. Honda sued LaiBao and got counter-sued to heck. Honda lost. SONY won just $10,000 against SQNY which made millions in profit stealing their brand. Chevy complained to the government and got nothing but a warning.
And then you want to withdraw your business from China? Good luck without paying the "leaving tax" and being forced to leave your industrial machinery behind (to the likes of Great Wall motors). - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yangj, you should take a stride in the poorer parts of Shanghai instead of the exclusively rich neighborhoods. I can get $1 DVD's anywhere and 25c for VCD's on a spindle.
The $1 DVD's will even have printed screens. $2 will come with a convincing box. - brd6644, on 09/01/2009, -0/+1Wow, I didn't know that George W Bush was the author of all copyright laws! I mean *****, you're telling me this stuff wasn't invented until 2000? I didn't know that!
/sarcasm - kilofox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Typical Digger: White male, 30 years old or less, lives in parents basement, pre-occupied with "Sticking It To The Man".
- mfhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Chinamen" is an offensive term. Like "*****".
Would you have said "*****" if this story was about Africa and its diamond trade? - Myonosken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Noone else thinks that perhaps driving a ***** death van around means you lack the proper credentials to enforce copyright law?
"You are reary using rorrents? DEATH VAN!" - justcharlie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is laughable. Anyone who's spent any significant amount of time in China knows that this will not happen for generations, if ever. China would love to suspend America's disbelief for as long as possible by signing agreements like this to get them off their back. I've dated Chinese girls who probably couldn't name one part that's inside of a computer but use bit torrent to download Prison Break every week. I'm serious.
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2LOL. Yeah, I'm sure China has a 10% suicide attempt rate. You ignorant *****.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6862228/
China is bad, but so is US. Clean up your own act before coming down complaning about others. You even go to european countries and forcefully extradite citizens for torture and interogation in Egypt etc. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2China also signed binding documents, written in blood, stating that:
1) All citizens of China are the most free people in the world
2) China is the best country in the world
3) The Chinese are the best people in the world - zhulien, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This is the dumbest thing I've ever read that China has done. This time they have bent over for bush to ram his copyright laws into them.
- johnstar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3We are Rerey serious about piracy!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Neo, sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
And we all know that China isn't cool like neo. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Right! But its ok after all, the labor is cheep there so why not allow them some piracy
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