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- jfarrow96, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4loker269 & seacow,
No matter how good or fair a system communism is in theory, it would never work in the real world because it doesn't take into account the variable of human nature. Apologists for communism always say it fails because the wrong people are in charge. Guess what, there is no right person, because in order for communism to work everyone in the system (including the leaders) must pitch in equally, only ever expect equal pay, and do everything for the good of the country (commune) & never put the desires of themselves before the good of society. If you are a prodigy in physics but you want to be an artist, tough ***** - you must use your skills for the good of the commune. Communism might work for a society of robots, but not for a society of thinking human beings who have their own individual goals, ideas, dreams & beliefs. - pheonix2og, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Funny story. I wish the MPAA and RIAA would go away. +Digg for the words "death of MPAA, RIAA."
"They may be communists, but they seem to be smarter than the US..."
So many people like to take shots at the US, but you fail to realize that the MPAA and RIAA are not the US, they don't do anything for the regular Americans' interests...They're out to make money just like any corporation/group around the world.
If you want to keep taking shots at every country, why not take one at France? They're last PM's son was gun-running in Rwanda during the genocide there (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:2LSxhJePRzgJ:www.socialistaction.org/feb05_17.htm+Fran%C3%A7ois+Mitterrand+Rwanda+guns&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6)....should I assume that all French people were involved in this atrocity? No. Quit hating America, hate the corporation or group responsible, or if you're going to continue, quit doing it here. No call for remarks like that on digg. - biffen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." - Frank Zappa
- jfarrow96, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's a good propaganda tool for America that works perfectly on idiots like you.
People trying to escape from Cuba is not some propoganda tool setup by our government - take off your tinfoil hat for a moment. Believe it or not these people are really trying to escape because they are sick of living in poverty under the oppressive rule of a dictator. I know the US immigration laws aren't perfect, I never said they were. But if you seriously think that there is anything successful about Cuba's system of government you are the idiot. - mdepolli, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"Well, communism sucks, but it works in theory. Just not in the real world."
"Working in theory" is impossible. "Working" can only take place in the real world. If it doesn't work in the real world, then the theory is wrong.
Nothing to be surprised here, since the theory behind communism has already been demolished in theory so many times it's not even funny. For instance, Mises' refutation in an article published in 1920, "Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth". - orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1these guys could only wish the MPAA / RIAA would disband. Then they woudlnt have to sneak around to sell copies of star wars 3 on the street corner
- Permanent4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3A communist nation predicts the death of a major capitalist entity. And this is news?
- rmdl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"If everybody could just download a game (or whatever), legally, then NOBODY would buy it."
Actually, everybody could if they chose to do so. Just about every teen in this country knows to get their MP3s from P2P. Anyone with an internet access could download any song, movie, or game they please. There is absolutely NOTHING stopping them from doing so aside from this nonsensical "fear" that you'll get caught (which is actually some astronomical chance).
It's just that *most* people don't care, or if they are downloading it, piracy actually isn't affecting sales whatsoever.
This is why "If everybody.. then nobody" arguments fail and why piracy, in reality, isn't even a fraction as bad as everyone's hyping it up to be.
Flat out, if something's good, original, and innovative, it will sell. If it's rehashed stuff we've bought time and time again, no reason to buy it again, and no reason it will profit! It's common sense, really, and bad sales has absolutely nothing to do w/ piracy! They just need a scapegoat. Gotta blame SOMETHING. - NicP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Take a television show as an example. TV shows are essentially paid for by the advertising you view when watching them. How difficult would it to be to take an episode and release it on the internet with advertisments in it to be "pirated". The advertising dosent have to be 30 second slots, it could be in the form of product placement or a "bug" so it cant be easily removed.
It supprises me how difficult it is for people to "think outside the square", Yes it can be profitable, just because you havent thought of a way to make it profitable doesnt mean you are right. The content industry is stuck in the past fighting the future, really they should be embracing the future and thinking of new different ways to make money. - jfarrow96, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@ seacow
"The only reason that Cuba is a semi-success is because the Cuban government is different to other "socialist" countries. Not everything in Cuba goes through Castro and a few other high ranking party members."
How could you call Cuba a semi-success? Do you think the thousands of people who risk their lives every year to cross 90 miles of the Atlantic in rafts pieced together from the few items they can afford would agree with your assessment of Cuba being a semi-success? A successful government is not one that people would risk their lives to escape.
"If you are a prodigy in physics you would NOT have to be forced to continue studies in physics. You could be a artist without the constant worry that your paintings would go unsold and you would live in poverty."
Yes, because I'm sure there is nobody living in poverty in N. Korea, China or Cuba, especially not any artists. Here in America we define a "starving artist" as someone who may have an older car, live in a small or run-down apartment and may not be able to afford the latest iMac or an hdtv, not as someone who is literally starving to death. We tend to think we have it worse here in America than we really do. I never hear reports of some American making a raft out of an intertube, a toilet seat & some string trying to sail accross the atlantic to Cuba so he would not have to worry about his paintings not selling. - calzone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"A capitalist world can NOT support more than a certain amounts of powerful countries. There always has to be a third world to exploit."
Capitalism does not require exploitation. If you're a great wheat miller and some other person is a great bread baker, you can trade your milled wheat for bread. As long as both you and the bread baker can remain viably in business, then you both benefit from the relationship. If the bread baker leverages your weakness because you have nothing else to eat but his bread, then of course there is exploitation, but unless there are other wheat millers he can go to, he risks losing his source of wheat, which he needs to make bread.
So, while capitalism does encourage trying to get the most for the least (which can lead to exploitation), it ultimately encourages mutual benefit and support. As long as all parties are capable of staying in the game and providing their share of value it leads to maximal productivity and overall advancement and benefit for all parties involved.
The trouble starts when it becomes necessary to artificially sustain businesses or services that are unsustainable. This trouble is very hard to spot in centralized system like communism because anything may be artificially sustained for utterly personal reasons on the behalf of someone in control. In a capitalist system, the only time (ideally) unsustainable systems are kept afloat is when it's deemed necessary by a sufficient number of people with sufficient control (like certain subsidized industries), welfare, unemployment benefits, etc. This is by no means perfect, but the alternative is social unrest in a rigid capitalist system, and utter inefficiency in a socialist-communist system (not to mention social unrest from unhappy and unfulfilled people who's dreams mean nothing to the greater community).
Capitalism allows for an individual to assume the risks of inventing a new market that no one else might think worthwhile.
It's not about exploitation, it's simply about people having the chance to survive by doing what they enjoy/are good at as they see fit. Although shortsighted morons try to twist it into an exploitative model, the final beauty of capitalism is that it can always bounce back from bad capitalism, while communism cannot bounce back from bad communism. We're all interdependent. - NicP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People take shots at the US because they are basically run by the big corporations like the RIAA and the MPAA. Money rules, enough money and you can convince government to pass just about any law you want.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5dickyducky if you had taken any political classes you would know communism is a perfect form of government it is just implemented very poorly because the person in charge abuses the power.....once everything is up and running the government is just supposed to fade into the background.....
- Skywise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, this from the country that just banned foreign animated media so its own internal industries could get a leg up...
Yeah, this country LUVS piracy... - dhakbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1China sucks ass.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Considering the country has ZERO respect for intellectual property, I would hope they would move closer to making laws to protect software and other content as their business and financial sectors mature.
- jescala, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@seacow
"I have said it before and I will say it again...Emigration from Cuba is legal."
You have to be kidding me! You cannot leave the island without the government's consent. You can't even legally travel from one city to another within the country without permission. Don't believe Castro's laws. I'm Cuban and I know what I am talking about. - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0funny all that... china has never been a communist country. like all the communist wouldbe's they really never get past dictatorships. so quoting communist literature about the death of capitolism is sort of silly. however, the funniest part is that i expect that people around the world, especially in places like china, are looking at the U.S. and predicting the fall of the greatest democracy/republic to dictatorship. it would be hard to deny.
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Henry Ford put it best, (paraphrasing)
"If I fire my workers, who will be able to buy my cars?"
Yes, you want to get the most for your money but if you hold ALL the money then the money is devalued and no one can buy from you.
In Capitalism, saving money is bad and spending money is good. With that said, if one entity in the circle continues to take in money but never spends it things turn bad quickly. Why?
Take ten people. Each of them has $10. the economy now sits at $100.
Let's say person 1 spends his $10 buying from person 2, etc... Everyone spent $10 and made $10.
What happens if everyone spends $1 buying from person 10? and he buys from no one? Now person 10 controls 19% of the economy. Keep this up for 9 more transactions and he owns the entire economy.
yeah, it's very basic and has no room for the cost of what is being sold but it points out the problem with trade and trade imbalances in a capitalist society.
Just think how good your bank account would look if you landed the good job and survived on ramen noodles for 6 months! Now, what if everyone did that? - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>No matter how good or fair a system communism is in theory, it would never work in the
>real world because it doesn't take into account the variable of human nature. Apologists
>for communism always say it fails because the wrong people are in charge.
i think the analysis is faulty. i think the reason they fail is that the expense of energy and resources keep them from happening in fthe first place. i think it might be possible if those were cheap or free. that won't happen on this planet... however. - joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, [insert any political ideology/system/implementation] sucks, but it works in theory. Just not in the real world.
- HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0communism works on the small scale.
how many "family-run" businesses work by this principle? - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Would have been funny if it said "Chinese Mafia predicts death of MPAA, RIAA"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"have more progressive and enlightened view then our business leaders."
you are a retard
"I hate America, and I live here"
then leave, go someplace you will be happy, My guess would be that you havent traveled much though. But believe me nobody would care if you left - FinishdLawSkool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe this is Chinese government syops (sp?) working to get on our good side before they invade Taiwan...
- Threephaserebel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5They may be communists, but they seem to be smarter than the US...
Now if only this idea (with the media and bittorrent, not communism) would take hold here, we'd be much better off. I still don't like communism. - ConceptJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@ phoenox2og
"Quit hating America, hate the corporation or group responsible, or if you're going to continue, quit doing it here. No call for remarks like that on digg."
To quote the folks on /., "You must be new here."
Of course, you're also right. - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Becuase it's true.
- NicP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@a1programmer
So? Ever heard of advertising? - dickyducky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1communism means the deaths of human dignity, personality & property. there no drives for human advancement..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"A communist nation predicts the death of a major capitalist entity. And this is news?"
China isn't communist. If anything, they're currently a borderline fascist nation with an authoritarian gov't and gov't run businesses/industries. The only thing keeping China from being textbook fascist is that instead of embracing a state religion, they persecute all religion.
Try reading a book or something, sometime. - dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Very good article... too bad the MPAA and RIAA are just too stupid.
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0according to peace treaty after world war ii, and international law, legally taiwan is china territory.
and
if you still remember, taiwan stands for china in UN before 1972, PRC is not considered legal by many countries like USA. however it was replaced by PRC, because nations in this world admit PRC is the legal china.
since then, taiwan legally part of PRC because many countries in this world admit PRC is the legal china, and taiwan is china territory. - DarthTater, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Don't blam USA, just blame Bush ;)
- mckinnej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yo-ho, yo-ho...
biffen: EXCELLENT QUOTE!
Communism would be great if there were no people involved. That's when it all goes to hell... - lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1China has been more capitalist than communist since the '70's when Deng took over. Please, learn something once in a while. The idea that China is communist (it is, but in name only) is an old belief from back in the 60's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaoping_Deng - genpeckem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0texpundit: I beleive you are mistaken. Fascist countries are usually staunchly opposed to religion on the basis that it provides a higher morality and authority than the state. The authoritarian ruler than takes the place of the church as the target of worshop. This was the case of Hitler, Stalin, Mao + many more authoriarian rulers. The only exceptions are fascist states where theocracy trumps nationalism such as Iran. As you said, "try reading a book"...
- Filoviridae, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1RIAA = Retarded International ***** Association?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CHINA FTW
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The idea of Communism is just a realistic implementation of Socialism. In other words, it's Socialism enforced by Government. Socialism is a much more idealistic view of a perfect system, but of course completely unrealistic. Hence the introduction of Communism. I don't think that any country at this point is fully Communist. I mean, China takes advantage of Capitalism whenever they see fit. In some cases, they're Communists only on paper.
- jescala, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0s/laws/lies/g
- RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Props to China for dissing the media cartels.
Also, communism is a philosophy that is in denial of human nature. Refer to Frank Zappa quote above. Not that I'm a fan of America's particular form of capitalism-run-amok either. Whether it's absolute government power or absolute corporate power, the little guy gets screwed.
(damn captcha) - AmZa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution
- mattgilberg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hope thos damn commies are right!
- AmZa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Spain
- NekstBestThing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I
- Mongoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I predict the death of China.
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's a sad day when a communist country can lecture the US about repressive technology and do it legitimately. Me thinks that the RIAA and MPAA need to be thoroughly investigated for Anti-Trust violations and Rico Act crimes.
- Starskey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah China!
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