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159 Comments
- ruest, on 06/12/2008, -7/+189***** THE CANADIAN DMCA!
- TheIguana, on 06/12/2008, -1/+123I can't say I was expecting a great bill out the Conservatives, but man this just takes the cake. The worst part, the Liberals won't do a damn thing to stop this because they are to damn afraid that their savour Dion won't win an election. Just great we are totally *****, totally and completely.
- evanpro, on 06/12/2008, -1/+95Montrealers, come to an emergency meeting tonight (12 June) to organize local opposition to Bill C-61:
http://www.faircopyrightforcanada.ca/emergency-fai ...
Station C, 5369 Saint Laurent. - Ozeki, on 06/12/2008, -2/+65The bill protects DRMs?!?! So protecting the technology is as vital as protecting the content... it protects?!!?! So if a company releases a broken DRM, NOBODY can legally "fix" it or allow you to use the content you paid for if the said company doesn't fix it themselves (which rarely happens; they just drop the DRM and move on to another one)...
I hope the other parties HEAVILY AMEND this corrupted piece of law... - mimigins, on 06/13/2008, -0/+61""Posting" music "using the Internet or peer-to-peer (P2P) technology" or uploading a copyrighted picture or video to YouTube, Facebook, or your blog does not qualify for any protection, and anyone who does so remains liable for up to CAN$20,000 in statutory damages."
That's just a little ridiculous. - SilverBlade2k, on 06/13/2008, -2/+55This DMCA has NO balance. We can't circumvent digital locks in order to backup our songs or movies into servers or DVD media.
***** the DMCA
***** the Conservatives. - 321george, on 06/12/2008, -0/+53***** any DMCA
- compu73rg33k, on 06/12/2008, -1/+51This is starting to get out of hand... I'm feeling a massive people's revolt all over the globe if these special interest corporations keep incessantly ***** over the general public...
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+49As a citizen of the United States, welcome back to the Dark Ages, Canada!
- MAGZine, on 06/12/2008, -1/+48This is what Jim Prentice sent me. I had earlier sent him an email voicing my opinion about how I thought the new Canadian DMCA is a bad ***** idea.
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The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
Specifically, it includes measures that would:
* expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own; and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
* implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
* clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
* provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
What Bill C-61 does not do:
* it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
What this Bill is not:
* it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws. Our Bill is made-in-Canada with different exceptions for educators, consumers and others and brings us into line with more than 60 countries including Japan, France, Germany and Australia
Bill C-61 was introduced in the Commons on June 12, 2008 by Industry Minister Jim Prentice and Heritage Minister Josée Verner.
For more information, please visit the Copyright Reform Process website at www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/home
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
Minister of Industry
The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
and Official Languages and Minister for
La Francophonie
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What do I say to this? ***** that. I can't back up DVDs. Not even to my iPod. I can't keep any movies that I backup, either. I must get rid of them. I am glad that you can't be charged more than $20,000 for infringement though. - Ransack, on 06/13/2008, -0/+46 In Canada we pay a tax on all recordable media such as CDs DVDs and cassettes. The money from that tax goes to the record lables to offset any losses due to recording copies of music on that media.
So how can you tax me with one hand for recording music, and the say its illegal too? This bill doesnt even make sense. - DSM93, on 06/12/2008, -0/+39here is the bill
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/content/hoc/Bills/392/Gover ... - RogueMountie, on 06/13/2008, -6/+45Damn I hate Stephen Harper.
- Dutrho, on 06/13/2008, -1/+38This bill CAN be taken down by the Liberals, as long as its not a "confidence vote", that's what the liberals are afraid of.
Call or e-mail your MP's asap. let them know we wont stand for this! - iMike360, on 06/13/2008, -0/+34We still have the NDP...
Ya, we are ***** - amcnamar, on 06/13/2008, -0/+33I got my letter back as well, which was basically a word for word copy of that. I replied with:
Mr. Harper, Mr. Prentice, and Mr. Baird,
Please stop spouting the same rhetoric and spin regarding this "made in Canada" bill C-61. No amount of spin or clever timing will hide the damage being done by negotiating C-61, ACTA, and the SPP without public consultation. The Conservative Party's attitude towards secretive negotiations is wearing on the patience of Canadian citizens.
This bill, along with the lack of respectable response from the Prime Minister, Minister of Industry, Minister of Heritage, or my local MP has left me no choice but to withdraw my support for your party. The Conservative Party's ineptitude in dealing with issues such as fair copyright and net neutrality has left me nearly speechless.
I urge you to reconsider your actions regarding these matters, and the way in which you conduct dealings with foreign interests, Government or otherwise. These actions do not go unnoticed by the citizens, voters, and other concerned parties.
See you at the polls. - affanjam, on 06/13/2008, -2/+31WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
- lucy22, on 06/13/2008, -2/+31There is a facebook account http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683&r ...
started by Michael Geist. There are some suggestions as to how to protest this. Also how it will impact even our ability to record tv programs on vcr or dvd players. You will not be able to keep them. - inactive, on 06/13/2008, -11/+40 Well, the Conservatives are Bushes right hand in Canada.
- waddling, on 06/13/2008, -1/+28Considering the Bill was first introduced by the Liberals and only died because of the last election. That is why they won't do anything, they're puppets of the record industry too.
- Malarie, on 06/13/2008, -3/+30Dude#1: Hey Banner, take a look at this new Canadian DMCA!!
Banner: Huh? WTFAAAARRRGGHH!!
Dude#1: Banner!?
Hulk: HULK SMAAASH!!! - purelithium, on 06/13/2008, -1/+27[YOUR MP'S NAME HERE], Minister Prentice, and Mr. Prime Minister,
I am a concerned citizen and wish to express my continued opposition to this US Digital Millenium Copyright Act-style Bill. Minister Prentice and his ministry are lying to the public about the effect and scope of Bill C-61. Bill C-61 WILL NOT, in ANY way benefit the consumers, and only reinforces the absurdities committed by organizations such as the CRIA here in Canada and the RIAA in the US.
These organizations will use Bill C-61, if passed, to damage and harm consumers, whilst not aiding the copyright holders. This Bill, if passed will lock down commercial products, raise privacy concerns, and create a harsh, far from "Balanced" legal environment that I, as a Canadian, do NOT want to see in my country. While I respect copyright holders' claims to their property, this Bill goes too far. This bill provides for making "backup" and "archival" copies of only a select few media(such as the outdated videocassettes, books, newspapers, and photographs) while ignoring the media that consumers ACTUALLY want to archive such as Video DVDs and Music/Audio CDs.
Again, this legislation will only further allow lobbyist organizations like the CRIA to abuse consumers and harm their industries. This legislation MUST NOT be passed. Please follow the wishes of your individual constituents, not corporate lobbyists.
A Concerned Canadian Citizen,
Your Name Here - spiralspirit, on 06/13/2008, -0/+26making fun of the riaa or any related companies will incur an additional $20,000 fine, as well as a purple nurple.
- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+23Waddling is correct. The Liberals started all this. They won't kill it.
- KableKiB, on 06/13/2008, -1/+22***** IT!
- realyst, on 06/13/2008, -0/+20I replied to mine. A nice step by step intelligent rebuttal to all the nonsense he spouted.
- Jeffler, on 06/13/2008, -1/+21***** DMCA SUCKS!
- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+19I've even been invited and attended Jim's local BBQs here in Calgary. I sent him a friendly snail mail letter knowing him not to expect my support in the coming (whenever that is...) election. No more door-knocking, flyer dropping... Nothing. I know it's not much and that I'm only one voter... but I just can't support ***** policies.
- Jo9100, on 06/13/2008, -2/+20Here's the message I sent to Jim Prentice:
"I don't agree with Bill C-61. The previous legislation was FINE. You are soo not getting my vote next election." - KingHarvest00, on 06/13/2008, -1/+18How stupid can the (minority) Conservative government be? Over 50% of Canadians download music illegally, according to some studies. I'm not saying that this is RIGHT or GOOD, but damn... I don't think I'd want to target 50% of the population and label them criminals if I were an MP facing re-election at the drop of a hat.
It's time to remind these idiots in Ottawa who they've serving, before this becomes the norm like in certain other democracies. - Ne007, on 06/13/2008, -0/+16Canadians better not let this go through.
It seems like you all have a constant barrage of these bills coming out.
You need to start whacking the ***** to bring up this kinda *****...maybe then it will stop. - IggyPop, on 06/13/2008, -2/+17This better not happen.
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!
- pdimeglio, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15I hope everyone who got this joke of an email responded. I sure did:
The one thing that frightens me the most about the bill you introduced is that it is not a mirror of the American version, but in many ways worse. Not only will I never vote for a Conservative party member ever again, I will make sure that I will discourage my friends and relatives to do the same. While you lie to us in this email, I will spread the truth by forwarding Michael Geist's analysis of the bill to every single member of my contact list.
Shame on you Mr. Prentice. Shame on you for lying to the Canadian people. Shame on you for turning Canada into a far worse place than it was before. You defaced this great nation with your US pandering and we will all suffer because of it. Electing a Conservative government, even in its minority form, was the biggest mistake this country has made. You and your leader Mr. Harper clearly have your priorities set and will do anything, including misleading, obscuring and plain out lying to cover it up. If you think passing this bill will help you achieve a majority in the next election think again. You have failed this country and your name shall go down in history as destroying the freedom that Canadians so deeply cherish. And no, editing your wikipedia entry will do nothing to fix your tarnished reputation.
I can not even begin to express how disappointed I am right now. Not only am I disappointed in you and the rest of your ministry, but I am disappointed with the state of democracy in this country. You clearly took the concerns of myself and many other Canadians and simply brushed them off with lies. The branding "made in Canada" does not change the fact that you largely went ahead and passed the bill as it was going to be from day one. Do you really believe that Canadians are so idiotic? Do you really believe that you can walk all over us? You are treating us like we are brainless sheep ready to eat any garbage you throw at us.
Thank you for your time, but no thanks for tabling this bill. - RainbowApe, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15is already happening mate, all over the globe too. of course the media never show it as keeping us isolated decreases our power and spread. go to http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml to see some of the ways this is happening around this planet of ours
- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+14The Liberal party started the ball rolling on DMCA-like copyright reform. The only reason they never passed it was that Paul Martin's liberals got the punt.
- iMike360, on 06/13/2008, -1/+14My eMail to the PM and Prentice:
Dear Mr Prentice,
As both a consumer and creator of media a strongly disagree with this bill. I believe Bill C-61 will not benefit consumers and will only hinder my creatively. I do believe IP should be protected but this bill will put to much power in the hands of special interest groups such as the CRIA to commit the same absurdities similar organizations in the US have. I will NOT support this bill and nether will the 43,000 other people who have voiced there opposition to this bill.
A Concerned Citizen of Canada,
Michael Downing
God that felt good. - Rikkochet, on 06/13/2008, -0/+13I see one thing that stinks:
Section 29.22 (c) prevents a user from creating their own backups if they have to circumvent a copy protection in order to create the backup. That means any trivial copy protection a company slaps on their media makes it illegal to create a backup.
It gets better.
Section 38.1 limits damages for personal use to $500. Great. Except if you circumvent copy protection in order to get your backup, *38.1 does not apply to you*!
The absurdity there is that buying a DVD and ripping a backup is "worse" than outright downloading it without buying anything.
I'm writing my MP now. I hope at least a few of you are as well. - Rikkochet, on 06/13/2008, -1/+13Everyone (in Canada) please click that link and read it. The Ars article is incorrect on a few counts and we need to be properly educated on this before we protest to our MPs.
I'm only about 1/4 through it but already Ars's claim that "When we come to backup copies, the list is a curious one: books, newspapers, videocassettes, and photographs. This is not accidental. The government's "fact sheets" on the bill indicate that DVDs are not included, and CDs don't seem to be, either.". False. Section 29.22 explicitly covers music as its own subsection to encompass any medium it is recorded on.
I'll reply back here a few times if I find anything ground shaking - so far I have to say I'm surprised at how sane this bill is shaping up to be. - craftycorner, on 06/13/2008, -2/+14NAFTA:
Bend over Canada, America's **AA #2 Bitch. Mexico, your next. - sravll, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11Alas, Jim Prentice is my MP. I've already tried and it went nowhere...
- Crisender111, on 06/13/2008, -3/+14Come Canadians! What are you waiting for? REVOLT!
- DryMaltExtract, on 06/13/2008, -1/+12It's not illegal. We pay a levy on burnable media and hard drives, even if they're not used for copying copyrighted material. Funny how nothing in this bill addresses the removal of that levy if all this ***** goes through.
- smegthelight, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11"You can pry my XBMC from my cold dead hands ***** !" - Anonymous
Don't worry, there are arrangements in the legislation to do that. ;) - Barclay1188, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11So it was you guys who brought us here!
- inactive, on 06/13/2008, -1/+12what the hell, I thought the government was supposed to work for the people. No one wants this Canadian DMCA and yet the government tries to put it through, how and why do Canadians vote for Conservatives when you know we're going to wind up with jackasses like jim prentice.
- geardosdotnet, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11I produce music and I will produce nothing but mash ups made from illegal samples for the rest of my life if this bill passes..
- forgeflow, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11This is the email I sent in response to Prentice's boilerplate reply to my concerns over this bill:
Thank you for your non-response to my concerns.
The allowances for copying content for devices we own are rendered null and void for any content medium that contains anti-copying technology, no matter how ineffectual that protection is. This bill would make it illegal for Canadians to archive their DVD collections, put movies they own on their own computers or video devices, illegal to put music on their mp3 players, and more.
Since when is it the government's business to enforce the failed technological approaches to copy protection by industry? They failed with DVDs, they failed with CDs, and they have failed with the new Blu-Ray discs. So, instead of the onus being on them to either come up with a protection scheme that actually works, or to give up the illusion that there is an actual protection scheme that is unbreakable, they have turned to the government to make bypassing these pathetically weak locks illegal.
I own the computer and I own the media I have purchased, and the idea of someone hacking their own property is so completely absurd it beggars belief that anyone could have fashioned this legislation.
Surely with our neighbour to the south playing at becoming a facist police state, our economy under seige from unethical countries that employ prisoners as labour, war around the world, and impurities and diseases in our food supply, the government has better things to worry about than what we do with music and movies. Get some perspective.
I will not be voting Conservative in the next election, which I hope is very very soon. - artfiend77, on 06/13/2008, -1/+11Awwwn man! I love Canada! I don't want to have to move now! :P
- RetardoCrisp, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10Well said.
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