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"Canadian DMCA" brings "balanced" copyright to Canada
arstechnica.com — The Canadian government has introduced its long-awaited copyright reform bill, the first in a decade. While there is much talk about "balance," a close look at the details finds a rightsholder-friendly piece of work.
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- ruest, on 06/12/2008, -7/+189***** THE CANADIAN DMCA!
- 321george, on 06/12/2008, -0/+53***** any DMCA
- KableKiB, on 06/13/2008, -1/+22***** IT!
- affanjam, on 06/13/2008, -2/+31WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!
- Jeffler, on 06/13/2008, -1/+21***** DMCA SUCKS!
- rpgmaker, on 06/13/2008, -1/+5***** YOU BRIAN WILLIAMS!
- pigfister, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2instead of saying fuk the riaa ect, why not call them who they are and be pro active about boycotting all their products.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
- TheIguana, on 06/12/2008, -1/+123I can't say I was expecting a great bill out the Conservatives, but man this just takes the cake. The worst part, the Liberals won't do a damn thing to stop this because they are to damn afraid that their savour Dion won't win an election. Just great we are totally *****, totally and completely.
- Dutrho, on 06/13/2008, -1/+38This bill CAN be taken down by the Liberals, as long as its not a "confidence vote", that's what the liberals are afraid of.
Call or e-mail your MP's asap. let them know we wont stand for this!- sravll, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11Alas, Jim Prentice is my MP. I've already tried and it went nowhere...
- Animal, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6Keep at it, get friends to help.
- stuffradio, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4I emailed last week using that auto-response and this is what I got:
"The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
Specifically, it includes measures that would:
* expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own; and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
* implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
* clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
* provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
What Bill C-61 does not do:
* it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
What this Bill is not:
* it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws. Our Bill is made-in-Canada with different exceptions for educators, consumers and others and brings us into line with more than 60 countries including Japan, France, Germany and Australia
Bill C-61 was introduced in the Commons on June 12, 2008 by Industry Minister Jim Prentice and Heritage Minister Josée Verner.
For more information, please visit the Copyright Reform Process website at www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/home
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
Minister of Industry
The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
and Official Languages and Minister for
La Francophonie " - nrdj, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1I received the same auto-reply.
- sravll, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11Alas, Jim Prentice is my MP. I've already tried and it went nowhere...
- waddling, on 06/13/2008, -1/+28Considering the Bill was first introduced by the Liberals and only died because of the last election. That is why they won't do anything, they're puppets of the record industry too.
- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+23Waddling is correct. The Liberals started all this. They won't kill it.
- iMike360, on 06/13/2008, -0/+34We still have the NDP...
Ya, we are ***** - artfiend77, on 06/13/2008, -1/+11Awwwn man! I love Canada! I don't want to have to move now! :P
- Yage2006, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1they wont do a damn thing to stop it cause they aren't going to vote on it in Parliament
- galanz, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6They interviewed the liberal heritage minister on the news tonight and he didn't like the bill as it didn't go far enough. The liberals are not the answer here.
- Fungii, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1As far as I know, this isn't a confidence bill, so it should be easily defeated before the House shuts down for the summer. But of course, they'll just re-introduce it when the House reconvenes in the fall. Then, with any luck at all, the Conservatives could be defeated before it passes and then it's back to the drawing board until after an election. Let's hope that's how this thing plays out. And if they make it a confidence vote in the fall, maybe the opposition could bring down the government on this issue. It could be a real negative for the Conservatives during an election. Although, somehow, I don't think the Liberals get that. Yet.
- Dutrho, on 06/13/2008, -1/+38This bill CAN be taken down by the Liberals, as long as its not a "confidence vote", that's what the liberals are afraid of.
- DSM93, on 06/12/2008, -0/+39here is the bill
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/content/hoc/Bills/392/Gover ...- megagram, on 06/13/2008, -0/+7So, just to get this straight, as I understand it the bill has simply been presented to parliament but hasn't yet been approved. Is that right?
- Rikkochet, on 06/13/2008, -1/+13Everyone (in Canada) please click that link and read it. The Ars article is incorrect on a few counts and we need to be properly educated on this before we protest to our MPs.
I'm only about 1/4 through it but already Ars's claim that "When we come to backup copies, the list is a curious one: books, newspapers, videocassettes, and photographs. This is not accidental. The government's "fact sheets" on the bill indicate that DVDs are not included, and CDs don't seem to be, either.". False. Section 29.22 explicitly covers music as its own subsection to encompass any medium it is recorded on.
I'll reply back here a few times if I find anything ground shaking - so far I have to say I'm surprised at how sane this bill is shaping up to be.- Rikkochet, on 06/13/2008, -0/+13I see one thing that stinks:
Section 29.22 (c) prevents a user from creating their own backups if they have to circumvent a copy protection in order to create the backup. That means any trivial copy protection a company slaps on their media makes it illegal to create a backup.
It gets better.
Section 38.1 limits damages for personal use to $500. Great. Except if you circumvent copy protection in order to get your backup, *38.1 does not apply to you*!
The absurdity there is that buying a DVD and ripping a backup is "worse" than outright downloading it without buying anything.
I'm writing my MP now. I hope at least a few of you are as well.- Foxoq, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4Thanks for sharing. Too bad my MP is a total neo-con bitch that makes Hillary look like Mother Teresa on a good day.
***** it, I'll write it anyways... - Donoram, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2***** deal. Luckily my riding is with the NDP and my grandmother sews for her children... So I can walk down there and have a serious chat. And will.
- clith, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2I'm visiting my MP in his office on Monday. I'll bring this up.
- Foxoq, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4Thanks for sharing. Too bad my MP is a total neo-con bitch that makes Hillary look like Mother Teresa on a good day.
- HonoredMule, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3I think Ars actually got it right. CD's/DVD's aren't the same thing as music, and everything else that could be contained on a CD or DVD is still dealt with in a very heavy-handed manner.
Honestly it wouldn't even matter what most of the bill says, because it very clearly gives special privilege and protection to ANY technically-implemented restrictions (not just encryption!) and in that one fell swoop completely destroys freedom of information and any consumer/user/citizen rights that could exist regarding the operation or use of our own property, intellectual or otherwise, CRIMINALIZING the circumvention or even production of tools FOR circumvention of any such measures.
Apparently, my government hates open source, open standards, free speech, basic property rights, affordable entertainment, Canada's technology industry, Canadian citizens, and puppies, but loves FOREIGN corporate plans for oppression and market domination. Remind me why they should not be forcibly removed from office?
- Rikkochet, on 06/13/2008, -0/+13I see one thing that stinks:
- jayfehr, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6That's right. At this point the bill is tabled. Now it has to go through three readings in The House of Commons who then vote on the bill. It then must be approved by the senate (they approve everything). Finally rubber stamped by the The Governor General (and always is).
- overkillingness, on 06/13/2008, -1/+7No, false, the Senate does not approve "everything"... in fact on more controversial bills, they can take a second look at simply send it back to the House...
So guess what we have to do :)- thall, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3Don't hold your breath, the senate is full of liberals and the Liberals introduced the initial bill.
- Fungii, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1The Liberals introduced _a_ bill on copyright reform. Not this bill. Not sure how bad it was, but you make it sound like it was the exact equivalent to this one and I'm sure it wasn't.
Although, yes, the Liberals have been out to lunch on this issue as much as the Conservatives.
- overkillingness, on 06/13/2008, -1/+7No, false, the Senate does not approve "everything"... in fact on more controversial bills, they can take a second look at simply send it back to the House...
- Coded1, on 06/13/2008, -3/+1Quote Preamble Paragraph 15
Now, therefore, Her Majesty, by and with the
advice and consent of the Senate and House of
Commons of Canada, enacts as follows: - tehchicken, on 06/13/2008, -0/+5Short version:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfxpw6tg_0d9hb7qhh
- compu73rg33k, on 06/12/2008, -1/+51This is starting to get out of hand... I'm feeling a massive people's revolt all over the globe if these special interest corporations keep incessantly ***** over the general public...
- RainbowApe, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15is already happening mate, all over the globe too. of course the media never show it as keeping us isolated decreases our power and spread. go to http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml to see some of the ways this is happening around this planet of ours
- cliffski, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1get a grip dork. People care about food, housing, education and tax. 99% of grown up people don't give a ***** that kiddies like you are forced to ***** open their wallets and buy stuff they want.
Go back to your sad little fantasy world where the kiddies rise up in revolution and refuse to tidy their rooms.
- RainbowApe, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15is already happening mate, all over the globe too. of course the media never show it as keeping us isolated decreases our power and spread. go to http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml to see some of the ways this is happening around this planet of ours
- Ozeki, on 06/12/2008, -2/+65The bill protects DRMs?!?! So protecting the technology is as vital as protecting the content... it protects?!!?! So if a company releases a broken DRM, NOBODY can legally "fix" it or allow you to use the content you paid for if the said company doesn't fix it themselves (which rarely happens; they just drop the DRM and move on to another one)...
I hope the other parties HEAVILY AMEND this corrupted piece of law...- Barclay1188, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3"...HEAVILY AMEND this corrupted piece of *******...."
There. Fixed that for ya. - HonoredMule, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2The only fix for this ***** is to HEAVILY VETO it.
- Barclay1188, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3"...HEAVILY AMEND this corrupted piece of *******...."
- evanpro, on 06/12/2008, -1/+95Montrealers, come to an emergency meeting tonight (12 June) to organize local opposition to Bill C-61:
http://www.faircopyrightforcanada.ca/emergency-fai ...
Station C, 5369 Saint Laurent.- riskybeats, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3Wow I'm glad someones getting things together. I'd be there but I just moved 2 weeks ago back to Van :(
- MAGZine, on 06/12/2008, -1/+48This is what Jim Prentice sent me. I had earlier sent him an email voicing my opinion about how I thought the new Canadian DMCA is a bad ***** idea.
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The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
Specifically, it includes measures that would:
* expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own; and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
* implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
* clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
* provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
What Bill C-61 does not do:
* it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
What this Bill is not:
* it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws. Our Bill is made-in-Canada with different exceptions for educators, consumers and others and brings us into line with more than 60 countries including Japan, France, Germany and Australia
Bill C-61 was introduced in the Commons on June 12, 2008 by Industry Minister Jim Prentice and Heritage Minister Josée Verner.
For more information, please visit the Copyright Reform Process website at www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/home
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
Minister of Industry
The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
and Official Languages and Minister for
La Francophonie
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What do I say to this? ***** that. I can't back up DVDs. Not even to my iPod. I can't keep any movies that I backup, either. I must get rid of them. I am glad that you can't be charged more than $20,000 for infringement though.- realyst, on 06/13/2008, -0/+20I replied to mine. A nice step by step intelligent rebuttal to all the nonsense he spouted.
- chris1012, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6can you copy paste your rebuttal? I got the same email and I want to reply.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 06/13/2008, -0/+8Lol, I was in Canada over the weekend (our band tour was to New York and Niagara Falls) and I had my PDA full of ripped DVD's with me :) It didn't get confiscated at either border, and I doubt people will actually look at your iPod/PDA/laptop. The USA DMCA is pretty much a failure as piracy still continues because tracking people down on the Internet is really hard. I don't download movies online, but I do think that ripping DVD's is just as "fair use" as ripping CD's, as target devices for both forms of media can't fit CD's or DVD's.
- amcnamar, on 06/13/2008, -0/+33I got my letter back as well, which was basically a word for word copy of that. I replied with:
Mr. Harper, Mr. Prentice, and Mr. Baird,
Please stop spouting the same rhetoric and spin regarding this "made in Canada" bill C-61. No amount of spin or clever timing will hide the damage being done by negotiating C-61, ACTA, and the SPP without public consultation. The Conservative Party's attitude towards secretive negotiations is wearing on the patience of Canadian citizens.
This bill, along with the lack of respectable response from the Prime Minister, Minister of Industry, Minister of Heritage, or my local MP has left me no choice but to withdraw my support for your party. The Conservative Party's ineptitude in dealing with issues such as fair copyright and net neutrality has left me nearly speechless.
I urge you to reconsider your actions regarding these matters, and the way in which you conduct dealings with foreign interests, Government or otherwise. These actions do not go unnoticed by the citizens, voters, and other concerned parties.
See you at the polls. - rahamm, on 06/13/2008, -0/+7Got the same email but I asked him about the education system the the effect this bill will have on it. Needless to say I was pissed with this canned response and let them know about it.
- pdimeglio, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15I hope everyone who got this joke of an email responded. I sure did:
The one thing that frightens me the most about the bill you introduced is that it is not a mirror of the American version, but in many ways worse. Not only will I never vote for a Conservative party member ever again, I will make sure that I will discourage my friends and relatives to do the same. While you lie to us in this email, I will spread the truth by forwarding Michael Geist's analysis of the bill to every single member of my contact list.
Shame on you Mr. Prentice. Shame on you for lying to the Canadian people. Shame on you for turning Canada into a far worse place than it was before. You defaced this great nation with your US pandering and we will all suffer because of it. Electing a Conservative government, even in its minority form, was the biggest mistake this country has made. You and your leader Mr. Harper clearly have your priorities set and will do anything, including misleading, obscuring and plain out lying to cover it up. If you think passing this bill will help you achieve a majority in the next election think again. You have failed this country and your name shall go down in history as destroying the freedom that Canadians so deeply cherish. And no, editing your wikipedia entry will do nothing to fix your tarnished reputation.
I can not even begin to express how disappointed I am right now. Not only am I disappointed in you and the rest of your ministry, but I am disappointed with the state of democracy in this country. You clearly took the concerns of myself and many other Canadians and simply brushed them off with lies. The branding "made in Canada" does not change the fact that you largely went ahead and passed the bill as it was going to be from day one. Do you really believe that Canadians are so idiotic? Do you really believe that you can walk all over us? You are treating us like we are brainless sheep ready to eat any garbage you throw at us.
Thank you for your time, but no thanks for tabling this bill. - prcpaul, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6Can't back up my iPod? So when Apple tells me to regularly back up my purchased iTunes files because they won't let me re-download them again in the event of deletion, they're actually telling me to break the law? Maybe some one should let Steve Jobbs know, cause they told me to do this a year ago.
- Donoram, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1So far I've seen the same form letter twice from the P.C.'s, any responses from Liberal or New Democratic parties?
- realyst, on 06/13/2008, -0/+20I replied to mine. A nice step by step intelligent rebuttal to all the nonsense he spouted.
- lucy22, on 06/13/2008, -2/+31There is a facebook account http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683&r ...
started by Michael Geist. There are some suggestions as to how to protest this. Also how it will impact even our ability to record tv programs on vcr or dvd players. You will not be able to keep them. - Taiyaki, on 06/13/2008, -1/+8Section 41
“technological measure” means any effective
technology, device or component that, in the
ordinary course of its operation,
(a) controls access to a work, to a performer’s
performance fixed in a sound recording
or to a sound recording and whose use is
authorized by the copyright owner; or
(b) restricts the doing — with respect to a
work, to a perform- er’s performance fixed in
a sound recording or to a sound recording —
of any act referred to in section 3, 15 or 18
and any act for which remuneration is
payable under section 19.
Lol You can tell who's behind the scenes. - mimigins, on 06/13/2008, -0/+61""Posting" music "using the Internet or peer-to-peer (P2P) technology" or uploading a copyrighted picture or video to YouTube, Facebook, or your blog does not qualify for any protection, and anyone who does so remains liable for up to CAN$20,000 in statutory damages."
That's just a little ridiculous. - tufftugg, on 06/13/2008, -11/+40 Well, the Conservatives are Bushes right hand in Canada.
- Woolmonkey, on 06/13/2008, -2/+8Do you honestly think this wouldn't be going through if the Liberals were in power? I mean come it doesn't mater Liberal Conservative this bill is going through no matter what. I mean I don't care for the Conservatives or the Liberals they are all politicians and not that much difference between them at all.
- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+14The Liberal party started the ball rolling on DMCA-like copyright reform. The only reason they never passed it was that Paul Martin's liberals got the punt.
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -2/+7Yeah, it's official. Now Canada really is the States' hat.
- Abominable, on 06/13/2008, -1/+6More like the state's bitch.
- ihaveabu, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1word.
i am no longer proud to be canadian. bush should go to hell and stop letting our pm suck his *****- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1Yeah, seeing all of this lackeying in the Canadian Government makes me a sad panda. Canada doesn't need to suck up to the USA to be great (which I guess you can say it is already one of the greatest and most powerful countries on earth).
- spiralspirit, on 06/13/2008, -0/+26making fun of the riaa or any related companies will incur an additional $20,000 fine, as well as a purple nurple.
- Malarie, on 06/13/2008, -3/+30Dude#1: Hey Banner, take a look at this new Canadian DMCA!!
Banner: Huh? WTFAAAARRRGGHH!!
Dude#1: Banner!?
Hulk: HULK SMAAASH!!! - SilverBlade2k, on 06/13/2008, -2/+55This DMCA has NO balance. We can't circumvent digital locks in order to backup our songs or movies into servers or DVD media.
***** the DMCA
***** the Conservatives. - IggyPop, on 06/13/2008, -2/+17This better not happen.
- ufia, on 06/13/2008, -11/+5***** the NBA!
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3Yeah! And stop letting Allen Iverson get paid 40 million dollars!!!
- RogueMountie, on 06/13/2008, -6/+45Damn I hate Stephen Harper.
- SuperWinner, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2this type of thing make me want to vote...
- EccentricCdn, on 06/22/2008, -0/+0Doooooo iiiiiitttttt. You know you wanna.
- SuperWinner, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2this type of thing make me want to vote...
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+49As a citizen of the United States, welcome back to the Dark Ages, Canada!
- Barclay1188, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11So it was you guys who brought us here!
- noseeme, on 06/13/2008, -0/+8Yeah, maybe you can help us get out too.
- Barclay1188, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11So it was you guys who brought us here!
- Jo9100, on 06/13/2008, -2/+20Here's the message I sent to Jim Prentice:
"I don't agree with Bill C-61. The previous legislation was FINE. You are soo not getting my vote next election."- SupaDawg, on 06/13/2008, -0/+19I've even been invited and attended Jim's local BBQs here in Calgary. I sent him a friendly snail mail letter knowing him not to expect my support in the coming (whenever that is...) election. No more door-knocking, flyer dropping... Nothing. I know it's not much and that I'm only one voter... but I just can't support ***** policies.
- cliffski, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1pretending to be old enough to vote? I hope not with that mentality.
- Th3Zodiac, on 06/13/2008, -13/+20***** Harper and ***** Dion who wants to ***** carbon tax us to ***** death ,, I'm so ***** fed up with these ***** politician assholes..VOTE NON OF THE ABOVE WHEN THE TIME COMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- SuperMoses, on 06/13/2008, -1/+4There's nothing wrong with carbon taxes. It's actually more justified than income tax. If you're contributing to the pollution you're affecting other people's quality of air, not just your own.. thus a carbon tax is justified since your actions are affecting my property. Tax the bad, not the good...and my man Suzuki supports it.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNew ... - cliffski, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1grow up
- SuperMoses, on 06/13/2008, -1/+4There's nothing wrong with carbon taxes. It's actually more justified than income tax. If you're contributing to the pollution you're affecting other people's quality of air, not just your own.. thus a carbon tax is justified since your actions are affecting my property. Tax the bad, not the good...and my man Suzuki supports it.
- Jeffler, on 06/13/2008, -5/+11Hidden fact:
The new DMCA was made in attempt to create a clause giving CBC the Hockey Night In Canada Theme Back. It couldn't even accomplish that. - craftycorner, on 06/13/2008, -2/+14NAFTA:
Bend over Canada, America's **AA #2 Bitch. Mexico, your next.- Abominable, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1***** NAFTA!!! ugh, screws over Canadians. And many other people too.
- arma, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=30722385944
People had this group going, I hope this bill goes to hell! - deiloot, on 06/13/2008, -0/+9Depressing
- purelithium, on 06/13/2008, -1/+27[YOUR MP'S NAME HERE], Minister Prentice, and Mr. Prime Minister,
I am a concerned citizen and wish to express my continued opposition to this US Digital Millenium Copyright Act-style Bill. Minister Prentice and his ministry are lying to the public about the effect and scope of Bill C-61. Bill C-61 WILL NOT, in ANY way benefit the consumers, and only reinforces the absurdities committed by organizations such as the CRIA here in Canada and the RIAA in the US.
These organizations will use Bill C-61, if passed, to damage and harm consumers, whilst not aiding the copyright holders. This Bill, if passed will lock down commercial products, raise privacy concerns, and create a harsh, far from "Balanced" legal environment that I, as a Canadian, do NOT want to see in my country. While I respect copyright holders' claims to their property, this Bill goes too far. This bill provides for making "backup" and "archival" copies of only a select few media(such as the outdated videocassettes, books, newspapers, and photographs) while ignoring the media that consumers ACTUALLY want to archive such as Video DVDs and Music/Audio CDs.
Again, this legislation will only further allow lobbyist organizations like the CRIA to abuse consumers and harm their industries. This legislation MUST NOT be passed. Please follow the wishes of your individual constituents, not corporate lobbyists.
A Concerned Canadian Citizen,
Your Name Here- Abominable, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4If i only found this sooner... I already emailed my MP haha.
- Jeffler, on 06/13/2008, -1/+5I never write to my MP. I would, but my MP is Ken Dryden and I can't finish a message without asking for an autograph (for those who don't know, Dryden is one of the greatest NHL goalies in history who retired early to study politics). Will send to another one in the general area though.
- Alexcarrier, on 06/13/2008, -0/+7Hey, great letter. Used it loosely to make a french letter to send to the Bloc. Sent it to Paule Brunelle(brunep@parl.gc.ca), the Bloc's critique for this case, and Jim Prentice and Josée Verner as well, the latter probably beeing the only person in the conversative party who can read it. Feel free to use it.
Chers M. Prentice, Mme. Verner et Mme. Brunelle,
Je m’oppose fermement au projet de loi C-61. Le gouvernement ment au publique au sujet des effets et de la portée de cette loi. Elle ne va en aucun cas bénéficier aux consommateurs, et au contraire, aidera à renforcer les absurdités commises par des organisations telles que la CRIA au Canada et son équivalent américain, la RIAA.
Ces organisations pourront utiliser le projet de loi C-61 pour nuire au consommateur tout en aidant aucunement les droits des auteurs. Si cette loi est acceptée, les consommateurs auront à faire face à des produits commerciaux contrôlés et surveillés, ce qui nuit évidemment à la vie privée tout en créant un environnement légal loin d’être « équilibré » tel que vous le croyez. Bien que je respecte les droits d’auteurs en tous points, cette loi va tout simplement trop loin. Plusieurs points supposés être des gains pour le consommateur sont tout simplement ridicules. Par exemple, permettre de faire des copies de vidéocassettes, un format dépassé, mais pas des films DVD ou disques compacts de musique est une preuve que les supposés nouveaux droits des consommateurs ne sont qu’un accessoire visant à camoufler les véritables enjeux.
J’ai donc la certitude que cette loi sera utilisée abondamment par les organisations lobbyistes telles que la CRIA pour abuser des consommateurs. Cette loi ne peut être acceptée dans son état actuel. Je vous prie d’écouter vos citoyens plutôt que les lobbyistes, car les injustices qui suivront cette loi pourraient être considérables.
Your name here.- ludditte, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2Merci
I had already written to my conservative MP, since I live in the Quebec city area, it is surely not a given that he will be reelected.
Your text, however, is nicely written and I will use as a template for Prentice, as I am sure is e-mail box must be getting as full as his wallet must be after cashing the check from the record companies.
- ludditte, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2Merci
- nrdj, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1Added the following, because I think it's important (they'll worry about their votes in the future), and true.
As I, and other young adults in Canada, are coming into our ability to vote, internet and media related issues such as copyright will become increasingly important in general elections - and we will therefore be hesitant to support Members of Parliament and political parties that support and introduce heavy handed laws such as this one. - Grislee, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1just sent this to my MP.
- Pogue_Mahone, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10***** you Harper, Prentice and your croneyism to American lobbying. This law impinges on reasonable consumer rights, does nothing to satisfy a need in Canada but does everything to support lobbying American industries. The fact that I'm donating consumer rights to support those dinosaurs makes me embarrassed to be Canadian.
It's not so much that the law is going to affect my life that greatly, it's that this is an obvious indication that this government does not feel any compunction to legislate based on the needs and views of Canadians. It's a naive statement, I know, but when it's this blatant it makes me both angry at my "representatives" and sad about my heritage. I secretly hope the opposing parties take this as an opportunity to for a non-confidence vote and force an election because this has become a voting issue for me. - smegthelight, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11"You can pry my XBMC from my cold dead hands ***** !" - Anonymous
Don't worry, there are arrangements in the legislation to do that. ;) - Ransack, on 06/13/2008, -0/+46 In Canada we pay a tax on all recordable media such as CDs DVDs and cassettes. The money from that tax goes to the record lables to offset any losses due to recording copies of music on that media.
So how can you tax me with one hand for recording music, and the say its illegal too? This bill doesnt even make sense.- RetardoCrisp, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10Well said.
- ludditte, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1if I ever get busted, that will probably be the point i will make in court
(i have legal insurance). I don't think this will go far in the court system. Fortunately our supreme court is waaaaaaaaaay more liberal than in the states, and when our govt. abuses the people with unfair and unjust law like this one (it probably was written in a corporate office) the courts usually bitchslap the govt. - starkraving, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1I wish I could dig this up more than once! +100
- supermanKD, on 06/13/2008, -0/+7It is sad that there is so much more to politics than meets the eye. The percentage of sheeple in this world is far to high to deal with government corruption. A solution? I dunno maybe make every person that votes do a critical thinking test before they can vote. A fair minded vote is better than a victim of marketing(commonly known as Propoganda) voting.
We are getting ***** by the corporate ***** people WAKE UP! - Ne007, on 06/13/2008, -0/+16Canadians better not let this go through.
It seems like you all have a constant barrage of these bills coming out.
You need to start whacking the ***** to bring up this kinda *****...maybe then it will stop.- Chaoticfist, on 06/13/2008, -1/+8Two of the last people that brought this up lost their jobs. We can only hope for the same for Mr Prentice and Mr Harper. I use to support harper before all this crap with copy right issues and the environment and other issues. Thankfully i never voted for him tho, I will be able to vote for the first time in a Federal Election when it comes and i promise you i will not vote tory.
- homesickalien, on 06/13/2008, -6/+3Dugg for crony capitalism.
America, ***** Yeah! - geardosdotnet, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11I produce music and I will produce nothing but mash ups made from illegal samples for the rest of my life if this bill passes..
- homesickalien, on 06/13/2008, -4/+2You were going to do that anyway ;)
- chris1012, on 06/13/2008, -1/+12what the hell, I thought the government was supposed to work for the people. No one wants this Canadian DMCA and yet the government tries to put it through, how and why do Canadians vote for Conservatives when you know we're going to wind up with jackasses like jim prentice.
- Crisender111, on 06/13/2008, -3/+14Come Canadians! What are you waiting for? REVOLT!
- geogeer, on 06/13/2008, -4/+4Canadians? Revolt? Ha you've really got the wrong country there!
- seanthebond, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3..You're an idiot.
- geogeer, on 06/13/2008, -4/+4Canadians? Revolt? Ha you've really got the wrong country there!
- serendipitously, on 06/13/2008, -1/+1Does this fill address or clarify what constitutes a file sharer? The Courts seemed to rule in the US that a person need only be proven to have made files available for people to download, which sets a dangerous legal precedent. Taken to it's absurd limits.....I could theoretically be held to be liable for having a windows based PC which contained files on it which was networked to any other computer.
- kevro, on 06/13/2008, -2/+31. I need to start to vote. 2. Does this bill have any fair use provisions?
- Yage2006, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3By the looks of it nothing good at all.
- Yage2006, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3By the looks of it nothing good at all.
- iMike360, on 06/13/2008, -1/+14My eMail to the PM and Prentice:
Dear Mr Prentice,
As both a consumer and creator of media a strongly disagree with this bill. I believe Bill C-61 will not benefit consumers and will only hinder my creatively. I do believe IP should be protected but this bill will put to much power in the hands of special interest groups such as the CRIA to commit the same absurdities similar organizations in the US have. I will NOT support this bill and nether will the 43,000 other people who have voiced there opposition to this bill.
A Concerned Citizen of Canada,
Michael Downing
God that felt good. - meta6, on 06/13/2008, -6/+3Ahh *****. This is worse than when Bob and Doug McKenzie went off the air..
- ap44, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10This is completely unecessary. I don't plan on following any bills about copyright. God damnit Canada, you are really starting to make some dumbass laws that aren't even thought through. A sad day...year for Canada and fellow Canadians.
BTW When is our next election? I cannot wait. - phoenixp3k, on 06/13/2008, -1/+6It's time for DRM free content to take over the world. Stop consumption of restricted media.
- KingHarvest00, on 06/13/2008, -1/+18How stupid can the (minority) Conservative government be? Over 50% of Canadians download music illegally, according to some studies. I'm not saying that this is RIGHT or GOOD, but damn... I don't think I'd want to target 50% of the population and label them criminals if I were an MP facing re-election at the drop of a hat.
It's time to remind these idiots in Ottawa who they've serving, before this becomes the norm like in certain other democracies.- DryMaltExtract, on 06/13/2008, -1/+12It's not illegal. We pay a levy on burnable media and hard drives, even if they're not used for copying copyrighted material. Funny how nothing in this bill addresses the removal of that levy if all this ***** goes through.
- DryMaltExtract, on 06/13/2008, -11/+3***** Albertans, I swear, the whole lot of them are nothing but conniving sacks of crap. Those with power anyway.
When asked, what is a Canadian, the majority define themselves as being not American. This is fact. To allow this bill to go through is to utterly destroy our national identity. To be swayed by worthless American lobbyists, something nobody in this world should have to suffer from, shows how much of a sellout the conservatives really are. If they don't like our laws they can take their ***** products and GTFO. They make plenty of money with our laws the way they are now.- getbusyliving, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2You are an idiot. The Liberals tried to get this bill passed before they got a vote of no confidence for thieving from Canadians. I hate the Conservative government too but don't start bad mouthing Albertans because Canadians have ***** major political parties.
- amazingnoob, on 06/13/2008, -4/+4I'll vote liberal if this bill dies in the next hearing
If it doesn't die, I'm gonna vote green!- galanz, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3What's that, you'd rather have the liberals push through an even more draconian bill? Research their position on this issue, they don't think the current bill goes far enough.
- Books, on 06/13/2008, -0/+8Wow, first our ISPs start throttling our traffic. Then they start capping our internet usage to a set amount of GBs. Now this *****? *****, I'm moving to Sweden.
- pattyboy, on 06/13/2008, -0/+6Well I'm *****.
- 360photo, on 06/13/2008, -2/+9Jean Chrétien can save us!
- Alexcarrier, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3First he will need a proof.
http://aproofisaproof.ytmnd.com/- thall, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2good find! I had forgotten that quote... good reminder of how politicians try their best to keep their head above water when they've already sunk to the bottom...
http://www.slate.com/id/1000162/
- thall, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2good find! I had forgotten that quote... good reminder of how politicians try their best to keep their head above water when they've already sunk to the bottom...
- Alexcarrier, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3First he will need a proof.
- tehknotte, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4I don't think I will understand why life is supposed to be so bureaucratic and waste so much paper. I don't understand why people feel the need to write complicated bills like this. Is it just bored adults? Can't they enjoy life and do something else? Do they really get a kick out of being this way? I hope I never become an adult like this.
- thall, on 06/13/2008, -1/+5It's called "financial reward".
- ludditte, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1What would the lawyers do? If you read a law and actually understand it, then the lawyers have NOT done their job correctly.
- tehchicken, on 06/13/2008, -2/+0http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfxpw6tg_0d9hb7qhh
Short version of the bill, basically. - forgeflow, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11This is the email I sent in response to Prentice's boilerplate reply to my concerns over this bill:
Thank you for your non-response to my concerns.
The allowances for copying content for devices we own are rendered null and void for any content medium that contains anti-copying technology, no matter how ineffectual that protection is. This bill would make it illegal for Canadians to archive their DVD collections, put movies they own on their own computers or video devices, illegal to put music on their mp3 players, and more.
Since when is it the government's business to enforce the failed technological approaches to copy protection by industry? They failed with DVDs, they failed with CDs, and they have failed with the new Blu-Ray discs. So, instead of the onus being on them to either come up with a protection scheme that actually works, or to give up the illusion that there is an actual protection scheme that is unbreakable, they have turned to the government to make bypassing these pathetically weak locks illegal.
I own the computer and I own the media I have purchased, and the idea of someone hacking their own property is so completely absurd it beggars belief that anyone could have fashioned this legislation.
Surely with our neighbour to the south playing at becoming a facist police state, our economy under seige from unethical countries that employ prisoners as labour, war around the world, and impurities and diseases in our food supply, the government has better things to worry about than what we do with music and movies. Get some perspective.
I will not be voting Conservative in the next election, which I hope is very very soon. - Abominable, on 06/13/2008, -1/+5First the Hockey Night in Canada theme song gets the boot, and now this!!?!?! What is going on??
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