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- Yatti420, on 06/12/2008, -5/+213It's really the American DMCA just being moved within Canada... THIS BILL MUST BE QUASHED!!
- ruest, on 06/12/2008, -6/+209***** THE CANADIAN DMCA!
- Crisender111, on 06/13/2008, -1/+147CANADIANS WAKE UP! Please.
- onelove, on 06/12/2008, -2/+117the worst thing is no one has a ***** clue this just happened. Well now time to go spread the word.
- canuck102, on 06/13/2008, -3/+90Come on Canada. We were once considered one of the leading countries of file sharing.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 06/13/2008, -0/+70This was posted in another Digg Submission:
Check out Online Rights Canada's new action alert, "Tell MPs What's Wrong with the Prentice Bill":
http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/action/firstlo ...
You can automatically email the member of parliament in your area to tell them what you think, a pre-written letter is also available. - jmignea2, on 06/13/2008, -0/+54This bill goes way beyond filesharing. If you're an artist, an educator or a journalist beware!
The implications of this legislation will be far reaching and disastrous. Bill C-61 extinguishes the voice of dissent. Fair dealing has all but been eliminated . Bill C-61 makes it illegal to access existing material, modify it, comment on it and/or publicly display it. Critcism, parody and satire under Bill C-61 become criminal acts. The whole of contemporary cultural content in Canada has been privatized. News and history will be placed in the private sector and available only with permission. Think you’ll be granted permission to create anything that offends? Think again. And so we enter the era of government sanctioned art.
Source: http://www.appropriationart.ca/bill-c-61-made-in-t ... - drakenlot, on 06/13/2008, -4/+53It was actually US lobbyists who convince our officials to create this.
***** OFF AMERICA! Quit trying to change other countries! - homesickalien, on 06/13/2008, -1/+45I hate that they are trying to slip this by mainly unnoticed by the general public. Tell everyone you know about this and take the time to explain why this is so terribly bad for us.
- 321george, on 06/13/2008, -1/+40***** any DMCA!
- justice7, on 06/13/2008, -1/+36this hasn't been passed into law yet; and therefor it is time to fight it
- TripleAStacked, on 06/13/2008, -1/+34Rogers the biggest ISP in Canada throttles the ***** out of my torrents anyway. Time to pack up and move to Japan
- drunkard, on 06/13/2008, -0/+31Please, every smart Canadian, write to your MPs and Jim Prentice, the douchebag who has introduced this bill, and as well the Prime Minister. WRITE TO THEM TODAY! Tell them you do not agree with the proposed changes this bill will make and do not want it for Canada. Thanks.
- ryazwinski, on 06/13/2008, -1/+32Well the good news is that the tax that the government levied on recordable media will be lifted in light of this new bill.
Oh? The tax isn't being lifted? Why am I not surprised. :P - roflcopterdown, on 06/13/2008, -8/+39Oh my god, they're using dragons to fight piracy?! Pirates are *****.
- justice7, on 06/13/2008, -0/+28if you live in Canada, FILL OUT THIS FORM!!!!!
- inactive, on 06/13/2008, -0/+28Here's the bill:
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publicati ...
Basically, the current law is that sharing is legal but enabling sharing isn't (a site like the Pirate Bay would be in contravention).
If the amendment passes, sharing itself becomes a crime. But, reproduction for personnal purposes remains legal.
Don't see how they'll enforce it though. We still have a right to privacy in Canada. - noisician, on 06/13/2008, -3/+26you know you don't actually get to vote on every single regulation, right?
- spect3r, on 06/13/2008, -2/+25From what I understand this bill
- LIMITS the penalties already that exist under our current law. I.e. 1 Movie Shared under our current law you could be fined up to $100,000 (or some crazy amount. This bill limits that fine to $500
Now, that doesn't seem that bad. However, the really MESSED UP PART is this:
- Transferring music from your CD to your ipod is completely legal under this law. UNLESS THAT MEDIA DEVICE IS ENCRYPTED BY LOCKING SOFTWARE, at which point, you are breaking the law if you break that lock (i.e. DRM).
Looks like artists who go non-drm are getting my business from now on. - BDOUG, on 06/13/2008, -0/+21Wrong, idiot. This won't even let you own your own stuff you've paid for. These greedy #(*&@# would charge you for the song every single time you heard it if they could.
- dreamstorm, on 06/13/2008, -0/+21There are a lot of details hidden in the fine print. Yes, it's $500 to download, but it's $20,000 to upload. So the limit for using any P2P application is going to be $20,000, not $500.
This law professor has been covering it quite closely:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/ - DeFex, on 06/13/2008, -1/+22im sure rogers or bell will be pretty quick to hand over your info.
- kev26, on 06/13/2008, -0/+19Here's the facebook group Fair Copyright for Canada - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683
Join and stand against this bill! We are getting SCREWED here! - junaru, on 06/13/2008, -1/+20I recommend a strike.
- 1plant1world, on 06/13/2008, -1/+20Harper and his crew are a bunch of spineless idiots. I wish the current government would stop pandering to their US counterparts!
- astrotrain, on 06/13/2008, -0/+19The guys at South Park need to make a Terrence & Philip episode on this. They would have a field day..
Dudley Doright: "Do you guys ahve any illegal mp3 players, etc?"
Terrence: "I don't know, why don't you check my back pocket Dudley"
** fart ** - swabfalling, on 06/13/2008, -11/+29And so we vote on this when? Because there's this thing called democracy, that allows me to say "GTFO".
- shanealeslie, on 06/13/2008, -2/+19I'm gonna write my MP and sign whatever petitions I come across because the proposed laws are not only oppressive, the almost complete unenforceability of it will result in a lot of wasted tax dollars. Then I'm going to continue to do what I've been doing for years; mostly ignore mass market commercial culture.
For pretty much a decade now I've been listening to music freely shared by the artists, and buying some merchandise at the live show when they come to Toronto. If they never make the effort to come to Toronto to play a live show then they lose out on my ticket sale and merchandise purchase.
With all of the freely distributed e-books, web comics, podcasts, audio books, library books, library DVDs, Radiohead/NIN style releases, band sites with downloads, shareware, open source, etc. there is really no reason to have to steal entertainment media - and most of the stuff for sale by the corporations that want to have all these protectionist DRMy restrictions is total crap anyway.
I'll admit that I am tempted to download movies sometimes, but then I remember that it all ends up on TV for free within a couple of years anyway, so why waste the time, electricity, and potential legal fees to download them? If you HAVE to see or hear something NOW because you have been programmed by the marketing machine to consume what they offer you as fast as possible, yeah, you're either gonna have to pay for it or steal it. If you can wait until its offered for free with a couple of commercial breaks, or included in your cable package in their video on demand library you get to see it with relatively no cost.
As for those that want to have a giant library of every movie that they have ever seen, well, if you want to clutter up your home with a couple of hundred discs that you'll like only ever use a couple of times be my guest, I'll just enjoy the shows that randomly drop into my life, for free. - BDOUG, on 06/13/2008, -2/+19Ah, there's the Canada=Socialist crap again. Probably spouted by another misguided neo-con who thinks "trickle down economics" = free market capitalism (hint: it doesn't, it artficially supresses our wages) ... and doesn't realize that he'd be *completely* screwed if we got rid of socialized institutions like public schools, public fire departments, public libraries, etc.
- inactive, on 06/13/2008, -6/+22And there it is folks, the famous sound of the canuck national backbone snapping like a twig under the weight of threats from the US IP lobby. A nation of subservient retards.
"we gotta do what the yankee guy tells us to eh, and put these laws on the books guy eh?" - petemcfraser, on 06/13/2008, -1/+16And maybe I can't turn right on a red light, but TABERNAC, I can go right through it.
- Waiting2awake, on 06/13/2008, -0/+15I'm making up petition forms and getting the people I know to sign it, then hand deliver it to my MP's office. This can not stand.
man! - davidsupercool, on 06/13/2008, -0/+14+1 for TABERNAC :)
- Gutterpunk, on 06/13/2008, -0/+14The bill doesn't actually specify what the digital lock can be. Anything that need to be circumvented to allow copying is breaking the law, and thats quite a large definition
- korvan504521, on 06/13/2008, -0/+13when was that? you guys have been paying tax on cds and Ipods to support the musicians for years now.
- SilverBlade2k, on 06/13/2008, -1/+13***** the Conservatives.
- asnider, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11It's actually even stricter than the American DMCA. I'm just hoping that the opposition parties do their job and kill this bill on the table.
- Claude1971, on 06/13/2008, -0/+11We voted the dorks in, that's when we voted. Now we're at their mercy until we can vote them out
- JirkJiggler, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10lol he's referring to the leading opposition party which is named the Liberal party of Canada.
- TheKoopaBros, on 06/13/2008, -0/+10I just did.
They aren't going to sneak in this bill that easily if the public at large becomes aware. Here's hoping we can all collectively put a stop to this asinine bill. - erydan, on 06/13/2008, -0/+9The guy from the green party is out back getting high and listening to his ipod
- drakenlot, on 06/13/2008, -0/+9Actually, it really isn't that well known.
At least what it truly entails, most media are simply stating what the officials what them to state, not the side-effects this bill will cause. - drakenlot, on 06/13/2008, -1/+10It's not only that it limits the penalties, it minimizes them to $200. That means a fist-time offender who before would have been given $100 fine or even a simple warning, It's automatically $500.
And for repeat offenders, the penalty does climb.
And about the DRM crap, almost everything mainstream has some sort of protection on it. - inactive, on 06/13/2008, -1/+10I put signs on my car:
"YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO READ THIS - STOP BILL C-61 and ACTA - LAWS MADE IN USA"
I suspect most people won't understand ... based on other people I've talked to. Any suggestions for a better catch phrase? - dhughes, on 06/13/2008, -0/+9 Here is the response I got a few days later:
The Government of Canada has introduced Bill C-61, An Act to Amend the Copyright Act. The proposed legislation is a made-in-Canada approach that balances the needs of Canadian consumers and copyright owners, promoting culture, innovation and competition in the digital age.
What does Bill C-61 mean to Canadians?
Specifically, it includes measures that would:
* expressly allow you to record TV shows for later viewing; copy legally purchased music onto other devices, such as MP3 players or cell phones; make back-up copies of legally purchased books, newspapers, videocassettes and photographs onto devices you own; and limit the "statutory damages" a court could award for all private use copyright infringements;
* implement new rights and protections for copyright holders, tailored to the Internet, to encourage participation in the online economy, as well as stronger legal remedies to address Internet piracy;
* clarify the roles and responsibilities of Internet Service Providers related to the copyright content flowing over their network facilities; and
* provide photographers with the same rights as other creators.
What Bill C-61 does not do:
* it would not empower border agents to seize your iPod or laptop at border crossings, contrary to recent public speculation
What this Bill is not:
* it is not a mirror image of U.S. copyright laws. Our Bill is made-in-Canada with different exceptions for educators, consumers and others and brings us into line with more than 60 countries including Japan, France, Germany and Australia
Bill C-61 was introduced in the Commons on June 12, 2008 by Industry Minister Jim Prentice and Heritage Minister Josée Verner.
For more information, please visit the Copyright Reform Process website at www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/home
Thank you for sharing your views on this important matter.
The Honourable Jim Prentice, P.C., Q.C., M.P.
Minister of Industry
The Honourable Josée Verner, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Canadian Heritage, Status of Women
and Official Languages and Minister for
La Francophonie - lesty420, on 06/13/2008, -1/+10copying DVDs you own to your Ipod is illegal under this new bill!
- prefekt, on 06/13/2008, -2/+10All the fright and panic may be for naught. The time line on this means that if it goes through the second reading, it's going to be in a fairly vegetative state through the fall (like Bill C-27 - the act to amend the criminal code re: identity theft - coincidentally, a bill that Michael Geist fully supports), which would leave it completely vulnerable to die in a field of lost ideas if we're fortunate enough to have snap election called in the fall.
So let's keep our fingers crossed for that... I'm pretty sure we've all had enough of Harper as it is. - reventlov, on 06/13/2008, -1/+9Awesome! This bill would make using my ipod with Linux illegal. I have written my MP and I will try to kill this bill the best way I know how: bringing down the Harper government before it has a chance to pass!
- digg1520, on 06/13/2008, -1/+9I think that's the point he's criticizing.
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