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- jjk5, on 10/12/2007, -4/+89Wanted: Help Desk Technician
Responsibilities: Connect monitors to computers. Show people where the start button is. Fix paper jams.
Requirements: 8 years experience, BS in Computer Science or related field, fluent in fortran, cobol, c , java, php, mysql, Japanese and Pig Latin. Experience with mainframes, vaccum tubes, aerospace engineering and open heart surgery.
Compensation: 8.50/hr. Contract position. - optikschmoptik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34It's true that most online job sites will score you exactly zero jobs, unless you're up for joining the armed forces.
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I think a-trol just got modded down for his tone, not his content. "I'm not going to tell you" isn't really in style on this site, as it shouldn't be. The open-source philosophy applies to more than software. If diggers need some pointers on how to find and land a position, what does it hurt you to share? You don't need all those jobs, you only need one. And helping people find gainful employment /helps/ your position. It helps others, too: if you have someone actually making a contribution (instead of living in the parents' basement), even on a micro-economic scale, you likely create more capacity for more jobs and more contribution.
Neither employment nor knowledge are non-renewable resources. The more people who have them, the better it is for everyone. So stop hoarding what you know; you're not helping anyone. - JEmerson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28"Out of the percentage of millionaires that had lost everything (bankrupt, liquidation etc) 78% made back a million within a year. What does this tell me?"
It tells me that they're still friends with, and blood relations of, rich people who will be willing to invest in "one of their own". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31my problem with finding an IT job online is they always make it sound like you had to invent C++ to work for them, as just a lowely college student i don't have the experience many online postings require
- lordkosc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20I know what you mean, it took me 9 months out of college with a 3.7 gpa, and 2 years of internships and even then I only found an entry level job.
- colemanm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Every person I know in the IT community tends to be too timid/scared/lazy to actually meet people face to face for interviews and introductions. I found my current IT job because I enjoy being active in the technology community in my area, so I go to events and meet ups. As a result, I'm 24 and I have quite a few contacts in the area. Young people in particular seem to be bad about placing too much faith in the Internet, and it's not really "too much faith", it's that they put faith ONLY in the Internet. That's the Achilles heel of many these days: the lack of motivation to go meet people in the real world.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/12/2007, -8/+23You can mod that guy down all you want, but that won't make him any less correct.
Submitting resumes through job sites can put 2 additional barriers between you and the hiring manager you're trying to impress:
- a automated scoring system that rewards you for having a pathetic keyword-filled excuse for a resume.
- a HR person that.. well, all bets are off on that one.
Fortunately, there are other ways to get someone's (positive) attention at a company where you want to work. See parent post for details. :D
On the hiring side of things, referred resumes get looked at a lot more closely than the batch of resumes that job sites spit at employers. So you might as well take etnu's up on his offer below. ;) - infradead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12The worst part of searching for a job through a job-site is the agent, since most of the worthwhile jobs are typically recruited via an agency. So it's not just the HR person in your way, but some pond-life, untrustworthy, know-nothing who is motivated entirely by his commission payment.
I attended an interview once where the agent had a list of skills which he articulated so badly it seemed I was a non-contender for the job. Later, I worked out that he was looking for all my core skills, it's just that he didn't understand what they were. On another occasion, I contacted an agent to withdraw from a job interview, because I was sure I didn't want the job. He didn't tell the employer, making out that I'd just failed to show for the interview because he felt that paid me back for "letting him down" (read: denying him commission on placing me in a job which was unsuitable).
I have only dealt with two agents who I felt were in any way trustworthy. The others are a hindrance to effective recruiting, and I think any company with sense would handle its own recruitment needs. That's why you get all these jobs asking for 10 years experience in .Net or some other new technology: the employer's HR people say "good experience of .Net" which the agent cluelessly translates into "10 years experience" without the first idea he's talking nonsense. This is recruitment by Chinese Whispers, and it's no surprise it doesn't work very well.
/embittered rant ;) - cynici5m, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Or you could put in a lot of hard work and get no where. Hard work isn't guaranteed to make you successful, it takes a good portion of luck as well.
- I1969, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12There's nothing the matter with using the Internet to look for work, but as the article says, it shouldn't be your only tool. And as you pointed out, there are different ways to use the Internet in your job search. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who think sticking their name up on Monster is all they need to do.
- Zer0Fade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11*****, I guess I'll give it a shot (Out of work IT guy) :(
- CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13presently im cruising on unemployment mad at the world and maybe even a little suicidal because im tired as hell of being used and abused over and over. i can work my ass off for any company and go above and beyond and theyll just treat you like garbage. i have a completely awesome resume with lots of experience and impressive companies on it which can get me a job but the quality of jobs is ***** and the pay is mediocre at best. its humbling when youre working directly under a CEO making millions and watching as his every whim is catered to and you cant even afford health insurance.
honestly you have to wonder how much longer you can depress wages until you may as well be working for walmart. ive noticed something else, when bosses start wanting letters of recommendation, the rot has set in. they're jonesing to can someone. i can't tell you how many times ive gotten letters of recommendation from people only to be shortly followed by my dismissal. i am SOO jaded. it simply isnt worth being in IT anymore, noone should take this sort of abuse. They took something I love and made me hate it. Unfortunately I'm stuck here though, because it still makes me more money than starting from scratch which is something pretty much impossible in our trashed economy. - CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Nothing worth having comes easy."
yeah but many of the jobs out there aren't worth having. they want you to do everything and work as hard as you possibly can and then when you burn out toss you aside like trash and find someone new. they will work you to death and NOT CARE. I could get another IT job in a second but instead im coasting on unemployment trying to figure out what to do next. I dont want another IT job but i may have to take one again. Its demoralizing and dehumanizing to have an IT job. People treat you like garbage and you have to lap it up like a little bitch. - awok, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I work as a web developer, and thus i read digg and /. every day.
Incidentally I got my job as soon as a finished uni and i'm still here 14 months later.
I got the job not because my interview techniques were better than anyone else, or even that they liked me more, i got the job because they had already heard of me (and my freelance *company*) and wanted to snap up the competition.
Best advice i can honestly give to anyone, but particularly the computing industry, is have focus and determination. Nothing worth having comes easy.
From what i gleaned off the article, if you want to get a job bad enough, you will have put to put in that extra 10%. But this is the same with any industry surely. If you want anything bad enough, you will make it happen.
I always like to think back to an article i read about the mindset of millionaires.
It was a very insightful peice that really make it clear to me that people that have made millions have a drive that most people lack. One point that i will never forget is a statistic:
Out of the percentage of millionaires that had lost everything (bankrupt, liquidation etc) 78% made back a million within a year. What does this tell me? That it doesn't take money, or being born into the right family, or any of that, to become rich, it takes getting up every morning and deciding that you are going to attack the world, it takes not giving up and perseverance, and conviction that you will accomplish great things.
Of course if you want to coast through life this is useless advice, but if you want that high paying job, or want to make it on your own, it takes alot of hard work.
Just like your favourite sports player whos living the lifestyle you really want, he didn't become world-class overnight, nor will you unless you put in the hard work in in the beginning.
(If you want further reading ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671708635/104-5987675-2825527?v=glance&n=283155 - 7 Habits of highly successful people)) - kaiwai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9RE: Montek
I am in the same position as your above poster; for example, I replied to a job with "IT GURU WANTED" with no exact list of required skills; I sent my resume along with my email; I followed it up, and found that I wasn't even short listed; to learn from my experience, I requested information on what skills I was lacking.
Back this guy spealed that I lacked MacOS X skills - which was clearly listed under the UNIX experience area; which included Solaris, FreeBSD as well. He also claimed it was listed in the ad, to which I provided him with the link, and the fact that it included NO requirements.
Sorry, when advertising, "IT GURU WANTED" is no adequate; if you want a system administator; you state that you want a system administrator with xyz skills, with xyz years of experience.
How about this; YOU interview the people you want to hire; and get rid of these recruitment agencies; thanks to their 'efforts' to stuff up the hiring process; I've taken myself out of the talent pool, I'm off to university next year, and once finished, I'm becoming a secondary school teacher - as tragic as it sounds.
How about instead of crapping on about 'years of experience' you actually get the person in and ASK them questions, PROBE them for answers; like I said to my old man; I've played the piano for 5 years, but it doesn't mean I'm any good at it; just because a employee has worked in zyx position for 10 years doesn't mean he is actually good at the job, infact, if I were an employer, I would ask why he was remained in the same position for 10 years - isn't he motivated enough to get further up the chain of command? doe he lack drive and ability to put in 120% when required? - snoble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@lordkosc
Who exactly do you think entry level positions are for? I don't know if I've ever heard of anyone moving directly to an intermediate position simply for having an amazing gpa (and while 3.7 is good it certainly isn't amazing).
Internships can be a good way to get a leg up, but only at the company that you interned. And then, only if you left a pretty good impression. - jamessavik, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19Ummm... any treatment of this subject is disengenous without mentioning all of the H1B visas given to people from 3rd world toilets that are willing to work for dog food. This has depressed salaries across the board. US companies are more than willing to whore themselves out by hiring non-citizens that cost a mere fraction in terms of salary/ benefits.
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I've noticed a lack of "IT" jobs in terms of the "administrative" side of things. The reason? Good programmers mean less need for ops guys.
Software development has huge career opportunities right now, if you've got the right skills. Anyone who claims otherwise is either lying or just ignorant. If you want a software job, and have good skills, please send me your resume and I'll refer you to one of the dozens of people that call me every week promising a referral fee (after I tell them I'm not interested in the position for myself). - nightstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Want to bypass this mess.... Start your own company! Find a nitch thats not being fill and fill it. Do better than the rest. Etc.
One last thing. Interview your self. Odd way to state it but would you beleve you if you came for an interview? - EiderDuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Man you are just so cool. You used the term "meat-space social networks" and cop an attitude about telling us how you found your jobs, even though nobody asked you to.
- CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7youre absolutely correct about the visas. BTW the new trend now is to hire an indian CIO who specializes in outsourcing. If that occurs RUN LIKE HELL. The writing is on the wall and your days are numbered.
Our only hope now is the economy. Many babyboomers who have been asleep at the wheel drunk on home refinance loans are waking up as they seeing wolves on the horizon. They're waking up to the nightmare we've been living these past few years. My girlfriend's dad runs a credit union and is involved in a merger where he WILL lose his job, MY father is well compensated at his job but they want to sell the company and he'll almost certainly be on the chopping block in the shake-out for having a high income. They are both the sole income sources in their families. Its little wonder how bush's approval rating is souring now that the economy is starting to effect boomers. - databasecowboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yes, don't rely on the internet, but use it to find available jobs and then use the traditional methods of getting that job. I have found jobs through job sites. It works, but the thing that puts you head and shoulders above the rest is using the traditional methods in addition to the internet: sending them a targeted electronic resume to hit those keywords, calling for more info on the job advertised helps, but generally you can glean what they want from the ad. I found that having a few targeted resumes that could be quickly tailored to the advertised job really made life easier.
Next, get in the door. Telephone and ask for an interview. Show up on time for the interview and be dressed professionally and be polite. This is where relying on the internet gets you into trouble. If your just emailing applications you're only doing half the job...you have to press the flesh as the saying goes.
Once you have interviewed, a hand written thankyou card is a damn good idea. This is where you can really take advantage of the internet -- in the old days everyone wrote thankyou cards, these days it's a lost art so here is where you use the laziness spawned by the internet to capture your competitors and allow yourself to jump ahead. A good letter not only thanks the interviewer for their time, but is a great way to reiterate your strong points and maybe improve on any mistakes you made in the interview. Also follow up calls are important. And even if you don't get the job, send a final thank you for being considered. They might have been on the fence regarding the decision to hire you or not, and if another spot opens they might be calling you back sooner than you think.
Finally, there's an old adage out there that when you are unemployed you should spend 40 hours a week looking for a job. This is a good idea, but I found that spending 10 -20 hours a week searching and applying and spending the remainder studying was a big boost. When I was job hunting, I'd usually spend all nighters preparing since job interviews are usually much harder than any final in school since you really have no idea what sort of questions you will be asked. - victorp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@cynici5m
That and you can't be a pushover, if your just holding the job because people know they can just pawn work off on you, your never going to progress, you'll stay entry level and never leave, while doing more work than everyone else. - vinbob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Very true,
During a number of years doing freelance work I relied on a number of tried & tested techniques for grabbing those jobs.
Don't rely on submitting a CV and wait for someone to call you, this does happen but is unlikely to get you what you really want.
The internet is the best place to look for jobs in IT but leave it at that, once you've seen the job you're after, call the agent *before* you send your CV. Just let them know that you've seen the ad and you're about to email them your CV personally. Ask them if they've had many CV's for the job yet, stuff like that but don't waste their time, keep it quick. If the agent was cool, call him/her back ask if they got it OK.
Positive attitude is key, if you're not confident that you can do all that's asked for, it'll show and you'll come across as a blagger. So don't apply for jobs that are out of your depth, in IT you'll be caught out either before or during the interview. If you need to move on in the field, educate yourself and become an expert first then you will shine.
I've seen so many cringe-worthy CV's, those that shove their life story into a CV just to pad it out, CV's that are formatted like a letter rather than a well formatted document of your career, they go to the bottom of the pile.
Learn how to use a word processor properly, use styles, don't just change fonts and styles across the default style this is asking for inconsistencies opened in a different word processor software or printed with varying methods and also shows to a knowlegeable agent/employer that you haven't taken time over your CV and/or for an IT person it doesn't look good if you can't even use a word processor properly.
Lots of people put their personal acheivements/interests at the end of their CV, make them interesting so that the interviewer *wants* to know more about you, not just "Films" or "Music" or some generic pastime, choose something that *says* something about *you*.
One that always sparks a conversation is the 'peronal acheivement' of my downhill mountain bike speed record of 87mph. People love that stuff!
I saw one CV where the guy had used up half a page to go on about how he saved a child's life 5 years ago, I mean!
Anyway, I've gone on for far too long...... - Zipko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I got my first internship in college because I had a younger brother who played little league with the son of a local plant manager. We got to talking at a game, normal bs like "Where do you go to school?" "What are you studying?" "What are you doing this summer?". When I mentioned I was in CS, and didn't have a job I cared to go back to (produce dept at a grocery store), he mentioned that IT at his plant was looking for another resource. He got me in for an interview and I got my first job thanks to the Little League program.
The part I'm most greatful for is that it opened me up to a whole new field I never considered going into college. The opening was for Automation, not network or programing type work normally associated with CS. I've now found a field I'm interested in making a career out of that I had never heard of before. - the6thReplicant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The article says some good things. I found all my jobs mostly via agencies and people recommending me from *their* interviews: "Sorry, but this job isn't for me but a have a colleague who would love it!". But I guess it'll be different for everyone.
Though the best advice is ALWAYS ring the HR department a few days/weeks after you've submitted your application. The number of times I get: "Sorry, we didn't receive your resume" or, on the other extreme, sometimes they will give you an appointment for an interview right there and then.
Job finding is luck plus determination. Don't listen to the voices in your head! "Oh, I don't want to bother them" etc etc. That's there job. Just be the nicest, professional person you can be so that when the HR guy/girl puts the phone down they should have a smile on your face. You will meet stupid HR people but that's life!
Ciao - awok, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@JEmerson
"It tells me that they're still friends with, and blood relations of, rich people who will be willing to invest in "one of their own".
Lol, yeah, cos millionaires are like that. As rule of thumb, once you reach the 'millionaires club' you look out for each other? The business world is a harsh place that isn't like the loving family you portray. People are out for number one, and I can tell you the majority of those that lost their fortune made it back by employing the practices of hard work determination and business savvy that they had picked up during their rise to the top.
They didn't get back to the top through hand-outs, they got back there through sheer will and determination.
@cynici5m
True, hard work does not guarantee success, but it stacks the odds in your favour considerably.
Relating it to the topic of this thread, an employer is far more likely to hire someone if they are a driven, motivated hard working person, that someone who is full of hubris, thinks they know it all, and is lazy.
Of course this is a black and white scenario, but remember, there is no substitue for hard work. - 1337hx0r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I graduated 3 years ago when the average search time for an IT job was 6 months. I had friends that didn't have IT jobs and had to suffer in retail a year after graduation. I ended up with an internship right after college, and they hired me full time after the internship was over. I found college job fairs very helpful. A lot of openings that I came across elsewhere wanted experience. At a college job fair, everyone there is expecting a lack of experience. Note, that I didn't land a job from a job fair.... but that's where most of my interviews were snagged. I've had three different jobs since college in two cities... three of those came from on-line postings... one from Monster, and another from a local job search engine.
- jinushaun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't put enough emphasis on the follow up email/phone call. It makes a big difference
- dmclone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wonder if a lot of these problems have to do with college grads getting out of college and expecting to make six figures right away. Here in the midwest they will start you at about $40K and IT jobs are easy to come by. It's not a ton of money but I would have been happy to make that straight out of college.
- lordkosc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Some people I know that have H1B visas actually make more than I do at the same job, that really gets me mad, I am not too familier with how H1B visas work, but I sure hope they have to pay taxes!
- CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3stay the hell away from teksystems though. they are the scum of the earth. if you decide to take a job other than the one theyre offering theyll blacklist you. they also blackmail visa workers with deportation if they dont take their lowball jobs.
companies need to start hiring perm again. they dont realize that the whole goal of the recruiters is to highball the company while lowballing the contractor so they suck up the middle portion. - 022A, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While I imagine most of the problems people have finding jobs is something they can resolve themselves. Many employers aren't helping by using badly designed or outdated position descriptions.
I've seen companies post position descriptions that have not been updated in over 10 years. They ask for experience with systems that company doesn't even use anymore while listing such a wide-range of experience as *required* that some perfectly qualified people are likely to be turned off immediately.
Likewise, I once applied for a job described as "Security Analyst" with a extremely vague list of requirements along the lines of "Experience with multiple computer operating systems including but not limited to: Windows, Linux. General knowledge of computer networking and protocols such as TCP/IP. Some programming experience preferred but not required."
I submit my resume and request additional information. A few days later I come to find that the position is basically software debugging and more than anything they want extensive C++ experience.
How the ***** did that job get advertised as what appeared to be generalized system administration? - rudedogdhc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@lordkosk
"Some people I know that have H1B visas actually make more than I do at the same job, that really gets me mad, I am not too familier with how H1B visas work, but I sure hope they have to pay taxes!"
Of course they have to pay taxes. They pay income taxes at the same rate that you do. In addition, they pay exactly the same social security and medicare taxes that you do. The difference is that unless they actually immigrate, they go home after 6 years and will never see a dime back from social security or medicare.
If they make more than you, it's probably because they do a better job than you. - etresoft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree with rtphokle, this is a useless article. You will get more out of the comments than TFA.
Speaking of which, I'll pass along my hints. My advice is not what you will read in Computerworld. It is just my experience. Right or wrong - YMMV.
Quantity always wins out over quality. Blast your resume everywhere. Flood them. Include a search & replace cover letter if they ask for it, but don't worry they won't read it. They will barely read your resume. Remembere what you learned in AI about a stochastic model? Well, this is it.
Don't worry if you are good match or not. The hiring managers certainly won't. I always get more hits on random resumes than specially tailed ones for jobs I'm perfect for.
Use lots of buzzwords - all the buzzwords. If it asks for 10 years of Unix, don't put 10 years of Solaris - no match.
Never answer your phone. Always make them leave a message. That way, you can look them up, find out what the hell job you applied for, then call them back and act like it is your dream job.
There is not much you can do about foreigners/citizens/non-citizens. People like to hire people like them. Don't ignore jobs when/if they all you back. Just don't be heartbroken if you don't get an offer from people who have a different accent.
Research and memorize the latest trick questions. They still ask those.
If you are very experienced, get out your 10-year-old data structures books and practice tree traversals, linked lists, and complexities for common algorithms.
Forget any wizened insignt you've gained over the years. It is probably over their head. You know what answer they want to hear. Give them what they want. They probably don't like interviewing any more than you do.
That's all. If you experience is different/better, great! I'm happy for you. If not, remember, it is a job - legalized slavery. You don't really want it. Start your own company if you can. - aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@CiXeL:
"People treat you like garbage and you have to lap it up like a little bitch."
No you don't have to. No, for real, you don't. :) Examine your doubts, fears, insecurities and their cause. Eliminate the cause.
I sympathize with your situation and I agree that there is a tendency for that to happen, but where I disagree is that it always has to happen. It doesn't. The employees are partly at fault here. Sure, employers should be nicer, but it's also up to the employee to stand on their own two and not wobble. I'm not saying here "don't be a baby, screw you". I'm saying you don't have to suffer. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This article is very general and doesn't really offer much insight, especially information specific to IT.
No Digg. - atroxodisse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have two suggestions.
1. Go and find all your local IT recruiters. They want to find you a job. The place that found me my job got paid $14K when I got hired. I wasn't even actively looking for a job at the time. I was already working at another programming job.
2. Job requirements are often overstated. If you think you can do the job, apply. Don't be afraid to stick your neck out if you don't fit all the requirements. The more you apply the better chances you have of finding a job. Most of the time what gets you the job is your personality, not your skills. People are looking for someone who can do the job and will fit in with their current staff without any friction. - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm going to have to second this one. I have more work than I've had...ever. Looks like we're building another bubble as I get at between 5-10 requests a week about setting up an online store for someone, and I don't advertise.
If you're a decent programmer, there is work coming out of every crevice. If you're unemployed, it's not because of outsourcing or lack of available work. - CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ aeoo
id like to believe you're right but ive seen IT workers get fired for being 'difficult' or saying to no additional work when they were swamped. I've asked for raises only to be given impossible tasks of which to be fired for. I have a spectacular resume and know i am worth every penny of what they pay me but that means nothing to them. Many times you are simply a body with your name pulled out of a stack of resumes by the recruiter. Your boss may or may not have even seen your resume.
The modern IT manager WANTS to hire a bitch and he will dismiss or simply not hire you if he believes otherwise. It may have started by exploiting people with low self esteem but now it is used as a tool. There is no future in this profession. - gd007, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11I thought you cannot find IT jobs because of outsourcing.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9@lordkosc:
Don't worry, as an ex-H1B, I can confirm that H1B indeed get taxed without representation.
Also, some people that don't have a H1B visa and that do "the same job as you" get paid more than you too, so the system works. :-P - CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2thats very true. i worked under a guy who was manager of one person, ME and was a cultural anthropology major in college. nice.
I'm expecting the realestate boom is going to destroy the respectability of the realestate agent profession just as it has for the IT profession. I feel bad for those people who have been in realestate for decades. - saifatlast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dugg you up, but just FYI it's niche ;).
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2aha... The number one lie in the contracting world.
temp to perm. no company ever highers temp to perm.
I've smiled and have taken those jobs.
Then I did the smart thing. I keep looking for a real perm job.
If a company wont hires you directly they wont do it for a reason.
Mostly its because there financing is poor or there just trying to sucker you.
Don't fall for it!!!! - nazsco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is the *only* dig post where none of the comments are less then 10 lines. Maybe everyone gets personal when looking for a job.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I dunno. Since 2003, I've gotten all my jobs... Contracts and Salaried positions via monster.com. I have a nice cushy job today, but every now and then I still get emails about contract installations that need live bodies.
However I often account this due to luck and the fact I have a good resume of work experience for the past 7 years. (It really helps if you have worked for a major tech company even if were low on the totem poll there which makes the people reviewing stop and go "oooooh this person worked at (major corporation) for a year or so!")
However, if you don't have the certs and work experience, posting your resume online won't do you much good. - 022A, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's one they forgot...
1.) You don't belong in IT.
There are still a number of people who switched careers or launched into IT around the boom at the prospect of easy money and really don't belong in the field.
They're seeking made-up positions that usually include "architect" or "designer" or in the title and involve clicking automated alerts on giant GUIs and performing complex analysis using some natural language interpreting super OS from the future while getting paid 80K for it. - Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@snoble
A 3.7 GPA is a B+. Nothing to be scoffed at and a hell of a lot better than a lot of other people that I've seen out there.
I've been in the field for 25 years. I've screened and interviewed hundreds of people for various positions over that time. I still remember vividly in the late 90's, kids fresh out of college with a 2.0 GPA and course-level familiarity with programming languages asking for $80-100 an hour (in NY). And the little bastards were getting it.
The US IT market has improved in the last 12 months and, as long as you know how to interview well, you should not have a problem finding an entry level delopment job in the mid-30s. - the6thReplicant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3can't believe I wrote "there" for "their". *****!
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